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Two things as public notice: 1. + Show Spoiler [Quarterfinals 1 spoiler] +Congrats to Fnatic, they played superbly and glgl to them in the Semis!
No one is saying that Fnatic only won because of the level 1 in Game 3. Please keep the nationalistic statements out of our subforum. 2. Riot's Worlds format is atrocious. Let's not beat a dead horse here. I will certainly be talking to Riot's eSports dept about it in the near future. I simply ask everyone to be civil. Humble in victory, graceful in defeat. Enjoy the games~ -Neo, Sept 23rd, 3:20 PM PDT, page 120 |
Bengi is like.. soooooooooo... I'll just headbang a bit here
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On September 25 2013 12:59 Kiett wrote:
whoever ends up interviewing bears, please ask them why they kept banning aatrox (while leaving skt's actual comfort picks like vi and ahri open)
i cannot for the life of me figure out the reasoning for that
I think you are discounting the one obvious reason.
They suck.
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That dude holding the "faker have my baby" sign probably already pregnant with triplets.
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I am afraid for Royal, last time SKT teammed up with another team to practice it was Ozone for OGN finals. SKT must have broke them scrimming them non stop, hopefully they didn't break Royal
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I wish faker would bring out the kassadin... It seems like he really prefers winning the lane throughout.
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On September 25 2013 12:52 Ryuu314 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2013 12:51 Dan HH wrote:On September 25 2013 12:49 Ryuu314 wrote:On September 25 2013 12:47 MattBarry wrote:On September 25 2013 12:47 Ryuu314 wrote:On September 25 2013 12:44 Caphe wrote:On September 25 2013 12:41 skykh wrote:On September 25 2013 12:39 Kiett wrote:On September 25 2013 12:38 skykh wrote:
So it's sea official worser then na? ...uh 1) Bears are Taiwan, not SEA. 2) not sure how them losing here proves they are worse than NA in any way. Taiwan=Sea=garena ok there are not gpl team but they are still sea. Well, no. Taiwan got its own region qualifier with GAB is the winner. While SEA got a seperated region qualifier with Mineski...and well SEA sucks so much more than NA. Taiwan is Taiwan not SEA. sure but Taiwan still worse than NA. old TPA was a huge exception to the power strength of Taiwan/SEA/HK. Gama Bears doesn't look any better or worse than not-C9 ...serious? You people hate on NA too hard. Go rewatch TSM v. SKT game 1 and say that they're doing worse or on par with Gama Bears. How can you compare that. It's like sayin that Vulcun is better than C9 cause their win vs Fnatic was more convicing. Lol strawman much? nothing I said even implies that.
You compared Bears game 2 & TSM's game 1 vs SKT as an argument that TSM is better than Bears. I was pointing out how absurd the transitive argument is, since you can compare Vulcun's G1 vs Fnatic with one of C9's games vs Fnatic by the same rules. I'm not convinced you know what a strawman argument is if you think that's one.
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european lady: two teams from shina
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On September 25 2013 12:59 overt wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2013 12:58 Dodgin wrote:On September 25 2013 12:54 Ryuu314 wrote:On September 25 2013 12:52 Dodgin wrote:On September 25 2013 12:51 Ryuu314 wrote:On September 25 2013 12:50 Dodgin wrote:On September 25 2013 12:47 Redox wrote:On September 25 2013 12:45 Dodgin wrote:
poor gamabears, nobody knew anything about them coming into this and leaving nobody knows anything other than SKT stomped all over their faces. Why poor Bears? They got 5-8th place at worlds without winning a single game. They can count themselves lucky. I mean I guess? but I figure building their fanbase internationally by playing more games is more beneficial than the prize money Let's be honest here. Even after TPA won S2 worlds, how many foreigners actually tuned in to watch TPA play in GPL? I don't know, they should have though ;o I know lots of people tuned in to watch Toyz stream, but that's probably more due to his individual play at worlds/personality. And honestly, it's probably a good thing people didn't tune in to watch TPA in GPL cause TPA just went on a huge, heartbreaking downward spiral post Worlds. Well I know one thing is for sure, if Korea ends up winning this OGN is going to get even more popular. Partly to do with the fact that international broadcasts from Korea are actually well supported with good production and no sound/video issues. Partly since they would confirm them as the region with the best team in the world AND the region with the highest quality teams on average. Oh also there's going to be no LCS for ages while Champion's will still be running and probably the LoL proleague too. Doesn't matter if SKT or Sword wins. Doesn't even matter if they crush Fnatic or Royal/OMG in a crazy convincing fashion. Most people are going to go away from worlds thinking Korea was overrated due to Ozone's performance.
I honestly don't think so, I think they will just think Ozone is bad.
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Gotta go to bed because of work. Have to avoid TL and reddit all day so I don't get spoilered. I believe in Royal.
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On September 25 2013 12:58 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2013 12:54 Ryuu314 wrote:On September 25 2013 12:52 Dodgin wrote:On September 25 2013 12:51 Ryuu314 wrote:On September 25 2013 12:50 Dodgin wrote:On September 25 2013 12:47 Redox wrote:On September 25 2013 12:45 Dodgin wrote:
poor gamabears, nobody knew anything about them coming into this and leaving nobody knows anything other than SKT stomped all over their faces. Why poor Bears? They got 5-8th place at worlds without winning a single game. They can count themselves lucky. I mean I guess? but I figure building their fanbase internationally by playing more games is more beneficial than the prize money Let's be honest here. Even after TPA won S2 worlds, how many foreigners actually tuned in to watch TPA play in GPL? I don't know, they should have though ;o I know lots of people tuned in to watch Toyz stream, but that's probably more due to his individual play at worlds/personality. And honestly, it's probably a good thing people didn't tune in to watch TPA in GPL cause TPA just went on a huge, heartbreaking downward spiral post Worlds. Well I know one thing is for sure, if Korea ends up winning this OGN is going to get even more popular. Partly to do with the fact that international broadcasts from Korea are actually well supported with good production and no sound/video issues. Partly since they would confirm them as the region with the best team in the world AND the region with the highest quality teams on average. Oh also there's going to be no LCS for ages while Champion's will still be running and probably the LoL proleague too.
It might get more popular, but time difference is still a huuuuuge barrier for Western watchers. VODs also aren't free, making it even harder for people to watch OGN. In a Grilled interview with Monte, this is addressed pretty well. To paraphrase Monte, the English OGN cast is pretty much catered to more hardcore viewers since the barrier to watching is high enough that only hardcore fans would follow OGN.
It's possible and very likely that OGN western viewership will go up if SKT/Swords makes it farther, but I don't think it'll be by all that much tbh.
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Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
On September 25 2013 12:59 Kiett wrote:
whoever ends up interviewing bears, please ask them why they kept banning aatrox (while leaving skt's actual comfort picks like vi and ahri open)
i cannot for the life of me figure out the reasoning for that
Too much terror about getting the Aatrox dive I guess
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On September 25 2013 13:00 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2013 12:59 overt wrote:On September 25 2013 12:58 Dodgin wrote:On September 25 2013 12:54 Ryuu314 wrote:On September 25 2013 12:52 Dodgin wrote:On September 25 2013 12:51 Ryuu314 wrote:On September 25 2013 12:50 Dodgin wrote:On September 25 2013 12:47 Redox wrote:On September 25 2013 12:45 Dodgin wrote:
poor gamabears, nobody knew anything about them coming into this and leaving nobody knows anything other than SKT stomped all over their faces. Why poor Bears? They got 5-8th place at worlds without winning a single game. They can count themselves lucky. I mean I guess? but I figure building their fanbase internationally by playing more games is more beneficial than the prize money Let's be honest here. Even after TPA won S2 worlds, how many foreigners actually tuned in to watch TPA play in GPL? I don't know, they should have though ;o I know lots of people tuned in to watch Toyz stream, but that's probably more due to his individual play at worlds/personality. And honestly, it's probably a good thing people didn't tune in to watch TPA in GPL cause TPA just went on a huge, heartbreaking downward spiral post Worlds. Well I know one thing is for sure, if Korea ends up winning this OGN is going to get even more popular. Partly to do with the fact that international broadcasts from Korea are actually well supported with good production and no sound/video issues. Partly since they would confirm them as the region with the best team in the world AND the region with the highest quality teams on average. Oh also there's going to be no LCS for ages while Champion's will still be running and probably the LoL proleague too. Doesn't matter if SKT or Sword wins. Doesn't even matter if they crush Fnatic or Royal/OMG in a crazy convincing fashion. Most people are going to go away from worlds thinking Korea was overrated due to Ozone's performance. I honestly don't think so, I think they will just think Ozone is bad. well, the korean hype train was basically "every OGN playoff team can stomp NA/EU. that version got derailed.
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On September 25 2013 12:59 O-ops wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2013 12:59 Kiett wrote:
whoever ends up interviewing bears, please ask them why they kept banning aatrox (while leaving skt's actual comfort picks like vi and ahri open)
i cannot for the life of me figure out the reasoning for that I think you are discounting the one obvious reason. They suck.
i suppose so. but it doesn't exactly take someone who doesn't suck to simply look bengi/impact up on leaguepedia and go "hmm no aatrox played ever."
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Imagine if samsung doesn't pay for dade's plane ticket
/fuckedup
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On September 25 2013 13:00 Dan HH wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2013 12:52 Ryuu314 wrote:On September 25 2013 12:51 Dan HH wrote:On September 25 2013 12:49 Ryuu314 wrote:On September 25 2013 12:47 MattBarry wrote:On September 25 2013 12:47 Ryuu314 wrote:On September 25 2013 12:44 Caphe wrote:On September 25 2013 12:41 skykh wrote:On September 25 2013 12:39 Kiett wrote:On September 25 2013 12:38 skykh wrote:
So it's sea official worser then na? ...uh 1) Bears are Taiwan, not SEA. 2) not sure how them losing here proves they are worse than NA in any way. Taiwan=Sea=garena ok there are not gpl team but they are still sea. Well, no. Taiwan got its own region qualifier with GAB is the winner. While SEA got a seperated region qualifier with Mineski...and well SEA sucks so much more than NA. Taiwan is Taiwan not SEA. sure but Taiwan still worse than NA. old TPA was a huge exception to the power strength of Taiwan/SEA/HK. Gama Bears doesn't look any better or worse than not-C9 ...serious? You people hate on NA too hard. Go rewatch TSM v. SKT game 1 and say that they're doing worse or on par with Gama Bears. How can you compare that. It's like sayin that Vulcun is better than C9 cause their win vs Fnatic was more convicing. Lol strawman much? nothing I said even implies that. You compared Bears game 2 & TSM's game 1 vs SKT as an argument that TSM is better than Bears. I was pointing out how absurd the transitive argument is, since you can compare Vulcun's G1 vs Fnatic with one of C9's games vs Fnatic by the same rules. I'm not convinced you know what a strawman argument is if you think that's one.
when did I compare Bears game 2?
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United States23745 Posts
On September 25 2013 13:01 Ryuu314 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2013 12:58 Dodgin wrote:On September 25 2013 12:54 Ryuu314 wrote:On September 25 2013 12:52 Dodgin wrote:On September 25 2013 12:51 Ryuu314 wrote:On September 25 2013 12:50 Dodgin wrote:On September 25 2013 12:47 Redox wrote:On September 25 2013 12:45 Dodgin wrote:
poor gamabears, nobody knew anything about them coming into this and leaving nobody knows anything other than SKT stomped all over their faces. Why poor Bears? They got 5-8th place at worlds without winning a single game. They can count themselves lucky. I mean I guess? but I figure building their fanbase internationally by playing more games is more beneficial than the prize money Let's be honest here. Even after TPA won S2 worlds, how many foreigners actually tuned in to watch TPA play in GPL? I don't know, they should have though ;o I know lots of people tuned in to watch Toyz stream, but that's probably more due to his individual play at worlds/personality. And honestly, it's probably a good thing people didn't tune in to watch TPA in GPL cause TPA just went on a huge, heartbreaking downward spiral post Worlds. Well I know one thing is for sure, if Korea ends up winning this OGN is going to get even more popular. Partly to do with the fact that international broadcasts from Korea are actually well supported with good production and no sound/video issues. Partly since they would confirm them as the region with the best team in the world AND the region with the highest quality teams on average. Oh also there's going to be no LCS for ages while Champion's will still be running and probably the LoL proleague too. It might get more popular, but time difference is still a huuuuuge barrier for Western watchers. VODs also aren't free, making it even harder for people to watch OGN. In a Grilled interview with Monte, this is addressed pretty well. To paraphrase Monte, the English OGN cast is pretty much catered to more hardcore viewers since the barrier to watching is high enough that only hardcore fans would follow OGN. It's possible and very likely that OGN western viewership will go up if SKT/Swords makes it farther, but I don't think it'll be by all that much tbh.
I feel like the rebroadcasts have helped quite a bit. They seem to get a decent number of viewers.
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Australia18228 Posts
How long is it until the next OGN season starts? I think dade would make a good sub that you can pull out when he's feeling confident.
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