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Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9138 Posts
September 21 2013 04:58 GMT
#11961
On September 21 2013 13:56 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 13:55 Zdrastochye wrote:
On September 21 2013 13:53 Sunaj wrote:
On September 21 2013 13:52 Zdrastochye wrote:
On September 21 2013 13:50 Sunaj wrote:
I mean, people gonna say the game is/was close, but it was only close cuz of SKT literally doing dumb stuff, once they smartened up, TSM hasn't gotten a sniff of a fight


So you can just say if a team loses with stupid things, that they only lost because of the stupid stuff? Dumb excuses, TSM held in but once again the final score = they lose. Hanging into the game doesn't do anything.


that's the thing, they weren't even losing doing dumb stuff, it was "even". Like seriously.


So? How does "doing dumb stuff" still excuse you? If a game is even, it's even. You could say TSM was smart for 25 minutes and is now "playing stupid". It's just a dumb excuse.


They dove a t3 tower when t2 was still up....

Nah, TSM are their equals. If they weren't in Group A they'd finish 3rd place in the tournament
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 21 2013 04:58 GMT
#11962
SKT much stronger ban/pick now, that they've figured out zed match up.
liftlift > tsm
jtbem
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada1404 Posts
September 21 2013 04:58 GMT
#11963
zomg xpecial didn't stand up that disrespecttttttt
aka Sowelulol
Thinasy
Profile Joined March 2011
2856 Posts
September 21 2013 04:58 GMT
#11964
On September 21 2013 13:57 Cubu wrote:
omg tsm had that in the beginning


No
Jaedong & Faker
Flakes
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States3125 Posts
September 21 2013 04:58 GMT
#11965
good game
dislike all the hate
Amethyst21
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada7032 Posts
September 21 2013 04:58 GMT
#11966
On September 21 2013 13:57 Requizen wrote:
Regi is about 90% at fault for this game.


Step 1: Get most OP champ in game
Step 2: Feed
Step 3: Have team carry you to midgame
Step 4: Throw Game
Step 5: ?????
Step 6: Profit?
/On the C9 Hype Train/@DatFirefly
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
September 21 2013 04:58 GMT
#11967
On September 21 2013 13:57 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 13:56 Numy wrote:
On September 21 2013 13:55 Zdrastochye wrote:
On September 21 2013 13:53 Sunaj wrote:
On September 21 2013 13:52 Zdrastochye wrote:
On September 21 2013 13:50 Sunaj wrote:
I mean, people gonna say the game is/was close, but it was only close cuz of SKT literally doing dumb stuff, once they smartened up, TSM hasn't gotten a sniff of a fight


So you can just say if a team loses with stupid things, that they only lost because of the stupid stuff? Dumb excuses, TSM held in but once again the final score = they lose. Hanging into the game doesn't do anything.


that's the thing, they weren't even losing doing dumb stuff, it was "even". Like seriously.


So? How does "doing dumb stuff" still excuse you? If a game is even, it's even. You could say TSM was smart for 25 minutes and is now "playing stupid". It's just a dumb excuse.


They dove a t3 tower when t2 was still up....


And they still got the tower? I'd trade a death for that. Unless you think 1 death for a 2nd tier mid tower isn't worth it. If it's not worth it then you totally win man, you are so smart.


It was the top tower. They would have gotten it without diving the t3. All it did was cost them a death.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
September 21 2013 04:58 GMT
#11968
TSM got req'd
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
September 21 2013 04:58 GMT
#11969
On September 21 2013 13:55 Neverhood wrote:
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On September 21 2013 13:54 JazzVortical wrote:
Tank Elise seems bad to me. Does it work out?

His build is pretty standard. You can go haunting guise after ancient golem if your team is tanky and need some dmg


Yeah I know, but I'm speaking of the trend in general for Elise to build tanky. It seems really underwhelming to me. She doesn't have enough CC to justify lack of damage (I know she does % HP, but it still seems really weak.) You can't capitalise on her mobility either.
[SuNdae]
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Finland323 Posts
September 21 2013 04:59 GMT
#11970
I think TSM were too much awed by the amazing koreans and therefore missed important plays in the midgame they would have made against other teams.
Cubu
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1171 Posts
September 21 2013 04:59 GMT
#11971
On September 21 2013 13:58 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 13:57 Cubu wrote:
omg tsm had that in the beginning


How so?

i mean they were on even foot with skt.
imBLIND
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2626 Posts
September 21 2013 04:59 GMT
#11972
That was a pure grindfest, and TSM faltered. Koreans don't favor the chinese snowball game. They know they're just better past the 10 minute mark.
im deaf
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-21 04:59:26
September 21 2013 04:59 GMT
#11973
On September 21 2013 13:58 Fionn wrote:
Crowd Status: Silenced


Haven't seen a crowd this silent since Infiltration killed Rog with Hakan at evo.
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kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
September 21 2013 04:59 GMT
#11974
On September 21 2013 13:57 upperbound wrote:
Seriously how is this Jax so tanky

tbh he has pretty retarded bases hp and +hp/lvl, i never understood why champion with one of the best late has so much better hp /lvl than any other bruiser
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
September 21 2013 05:00 GMT
#11975
still believe that the requiem double kill in bot was pure luck and the siegeing t3 tower while t2 is still up was being fooling around.
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Vonthin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2864 Posts
September 21 2013 05:00 GMT
#11976
On September 21 2013 13:59 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 13:58 Fionn wrote:
Crowd Status: Silenced


Haven't seen a crowd this silent since Infiltration killed Rog with Hakan at evo.


allstars crowd when korea dumpstered china
Best Trashcan NA - LoL Summoner. SKT / CLG / Liquid
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 21 2013 05:00 GMT
#11977
On September 21 2013 13:58 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 13:56 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 21 2013 13:55 Shikyo wrote:
On September 21 2013 13:54 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On September 21 2013 13:54 wei2coolman wrote:
riven counter zed, told ya,

Faker counters regi

regi counters regi

nah, seriously, put regi hate aside. riven's kit straight up wrecks zed.
Same applies to Jax.

Tanky champions that wreck face in melee counter Zed in general. Riven's really good because she can stun him when he jumps in and just bursts him down instantly.

I can't really put the regi hate aside though

Riven does this, and shove the lane. The problem with a lot of tanky melee, is that they have to ramp up defense, before damage.
With riven you can do both, build AD + get tanky, can counter shove without resource. Thats why Riven is THE Zed counter.
liftlift > tsm
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35163 Posts
September 21 2013 05:00 GMT
#11978
K Regi, S4, it's time to decide. Step back or hire a CEO.
Vonthin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2864 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-21 05:01:00
September 21 2013 05:00 GMT
#11979
On September 21 2013 14:00 Chexx wrote:
still believe that the requiem double kill in bot was pure luck and the siegeing t3 tower while t2 is still up was being fooling around.


if mandu didnt completely miss his sona ult they prob wouldn't have died bottom
Best Trashcan NA - LoL Summoner. SKT / CLG / Liquid
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
September 21 2013 05:01 GMT
#11980
On September 21 2013 13:59 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 13:58 Fionn wrote:
Crowd Status: Silenced


Haven't seen a crowd this silent since Infiltration killed Rog with Hakan at evo.


match was so hype though
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
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