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Nitan
Profile Joined September 2008
United States3401 Posts
August 31 2013 23:37 GMT
#2801
Dyrus did extremely well in his previous game of top lane Karthus. The problem was the rest of TSM completely fell apart so he wasn't able to carry despite his best efforts.

Vulcun shouldn't have underestimated Dyrus.
Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself. I am large, I contain multitudes.
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
August 31 2013 23:38 GMT
#2802
On September 01 2013 08:35 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2013 08:35 dottycakes wrote:
On September 01 2013 08:33 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Honestly if they could scale back WildTurtle's reengages when kills are already secured TSM would be extremely strong


You can't contain the wild in WildTurtle.

This turtle is the WILDEST!
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2013 08:35 Flakes wrote:
vulcun not banning karthus is even more surprising than tsm not caring about zac

I believe TSM tried this Dyrus Karthus before, and lost the game mid season, so I don't think Vulcun were too worried about the Karthus pick.


yeah but Dyrus played amazing that game, I think that game was another infamous Regi TF game
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 31 2013 23:38 GMT
#2803
On September 01 2013 08:37 Nitan wrote:
Dyrus did extremely well in his previous game of top lane Karthus. The problem was the rest of TSM completely fell apart so he wasn't able to carry despite his best efforts.

Vulcun shouldn't have underestimated Dyrus.

Well, Regi also plays Karthus, and if Regi was Karthus, would have been free win. I'm okay with letting the Karthus as a ban slide through, not the reason they lost.
liftlift > tsm
Flakes
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States3125 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-31 23:39:41
August 31 2013 23:38 GMT
#2804
On September 01 2013 08:37 Nitan wrote:
Dyrus did extremely well in his previous game of top lane Karthus. The problem was the rest of TSM completely fell apart so he wasn't able to carry despite his best efforts.

Vulcun shouldn't have underestimated Dyrus.


also having regi and dyrus able to karth makes it harder to predict their lanes when they pick karth
Prog
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom1470 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-31 23:39:50
August 31 2013 23:39 GMT
#2805
On September 01 2013 08:34 wei2coolman wrote:
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On September 01 2013 08:34 kongoline wrote:
On September 01 2013 08:29 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On September 01 2013 08:25 RouaF wrote:
On September 01 2013 08:20 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On September 01 2013 08:18 Volband wrote:
On September 01 2013 08:17 TitusVI wrote:
Ahri gets nerfed 100%

She already got some huge hits back in s2, I hope they leave her alone. She's fine imo.

The hits weren't the hugest (base damage nerfs plus extra AP ratios, at, was it 200?, AP, she does more damage). But overall, she's fine and Riot knows it. Her balancing is currently pretty durable imo.

I think what's too good about her is the range on the ult dash, it has a really long range and you can use it three times which allows for insane engage -> kill someone -> disengage with little to no risk. I've always felt that nerfing her damage isn't the way to go, just nerf that god-damn ult range which gives her godlike mobility (ala leesin nerfs).

Honestly, I think Ahri's fine at this point of time. She has her strengths and weaknesses. Nerfing what makes her unique isn't the way to go.

By forcing her to build more pure AP damage items, she has tradeoffs. Mobile and assassin-level damage, but squishy and punishable.

she has no weakness right now, like bjergsen said she works in every team and has no lane counters also does well in 1v2, ahri outclasses every other ap mid atm

Lissandra beats Ahri, Zed does quite good against it too.


Not sure if that is the case. But even if it is, it does not matter this LCS playoffs, because Lissandra is banned due to a bug. :/
Sp00ly
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1546 Posts
August 31 2013 23:39 GMT
#2806
So what's a good pick against Ahri then?

I have a feeling she will be showing up in soloQ more.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
August 31 2013 23:39 GMT
#2807
On September 01 2013 08:34 jpak wrote:
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On September 01 2013 08:32 Slusher wrote:
One of the biggest problems with Ahri is she's good vs. a lot of top mid picks and people are not adapting. Zed taking this game for instance sucks vs. Ahri. there's shit out there that does pretty well and is strong enough in my opinion for pro games but people just aren't using it.

Would one of them happen to be Gragas? I've seen some go Gragas against Ahri and do well (knockback the spirit-rushing Ahri, push lane faster, damage reduction with w).

Gragas isn't a counterpick but Ahri doesn't counter gragas. There are things that gragas can do well that ahri doesn't, and vice versa. All in all, people overstate how ahri has "no counters". In reality, zed also has no counters. If you think ahri counters zed you don't know what you're talking about. The lane is pretty even and skill based and both are strong assassins. Ahri arguably has more versatility with charm but zed is an amazing split pusher.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
August 31 2013 23:39 GMT
#2808
my biggest problem with proposing Ahri nerfs is anything you do to her damage is going to make her even more reliant on DFG. and will also make her even worse in team fights than DFG Ahri already is, I just can't get on board with anything other than removing DFG from the game, the same thing I said when DFG was a problem the first time, I just think as long as that item has ap scaling (the debuff it adds now is basically this) it cannot be balanced.
Carrilord has arrived.
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
August 31 2013 23:40 GMT
#2809
Gnome cutie<3
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 31 2013 23:40 GMT
#2810
THEM FIGHTING WORD FROM GNOME.
liftlift > tsm
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
August 31 2013 23:40 GMT
#2811
Her accent is so cute :3
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
August 31 2013 23:41 GMT
#2812
They interviewed kelby after clg loss and they lost again now they interview gnome.Vulcun pls no
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 31 2013 23:41 GMT
#2813
On September 01 2013 08:39 Sp00ly wrote:
So what's a good pick against Ahri then?

I have a feeling she will be showing up in soloQ more.

Pick better teamfighting mids, Karthus does okay against Ahri, it's a skill matchup.
liftlift > tsm
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-31 23:43:23
August 31 2013 23:42 GMT
#2814
On September 01 2013 08:39 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2013 08:34 jpak wrote:
On September 01 2013 08:32 Slusher wrote:
One of the biggest problems with Ahri is she's good vs. a lot of top mid picks and people are not adapting. Zed taking this game for instance sucks vs. Ahri. there's shit out there that does pretty well and is strong enough in my opinion for pro games but people just aren't using it.

Would one of them happen to be Gragas? I've seen some go Gragas against Ahri and do well (knockback the spirit-rushing Ahri, push lane faster, damage reduction with w).

Gragas isn't a counterpick but Ahri doesn't counter gragas. There are things that gragas can do well that ahri doesn't, and vice versa. All in all, people overstate how ahri has "no counters". In reality, zed also has no counters. If you think ahri counters zed you don't know what you're talking about. The lane is pretty even and skill based and both are strong assassins. Ahri arguably has more versatility with charm but zed is an amazing split pusher.


DFG Ahri is in it's very nature a counter to split pushing, that's why the entire fad started.
Carrilord has arrived.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
August 31 2013 23:43 GMT
#2815
Fizz, Ori, Gragas, Zed, Lissandra, Kayle do well vs Ahri

Kassadin rapes her, doesn't even need jungle ganks just some presence so Kass can farm up and destroy her.

just because a champ doesn't have a hardcounter doesn't mean she needs to be nerfed.
Flakes
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States3125 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-31 23:44:18
August 31 2013 23:43 GMT
#2816
regi is also just good at ahri, it really fits his playstyle

I'm surprised he didn't put more effort into AD leesin when he was streaming his switch to "top"
TheSinisterRed
Profile Joined September 2012
United States1546 Posts
August 31 2013 23:44 GMT
#2817
Wow they didn't ban Ahri. This could actually be a 2-0.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
August 31 2013 23:44 GMT
#2818
Swain is also really good vs. her, I like Annie as well but most people I know don't agree on that one.

Fizz is closer to skill, whoever blows their skills first usually loses.
Carrilord has arrived.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-31 23:45:08
August 31 2013 23:44 GMT
#2819
wowowow they're leaving zac open..

gg tsm congratz

EDIT WHY DOES NO ONE PICK ZAC
jpak
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States5045 Posts
August 31 2013 23:44 GMT
#2820
On September 01 2013 08:39 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2013 08:34 jpak wrote:
On September 01 2013 08:32 Slusher wrote:
One of the biggest problems with Ahri is she's good vs. a lot of top mid picks and people are not adapting. Zed taking this game for instance sucks vs. Ahri. there's shit out there that does pretty well and is strong enough in my opinion for pro games but people just aren't using it.

Would one of them happen to be Gragas? I've seen some go Gragas against Ahri and do well (knockback the spirit-rushing Ahri, push lane faster, damage reduction with w).

Gragas isn't a counterpick but Ahri doesn't counter gragas. There are things that gragas can do well that ahri doesn't, and vice versa. All in all, people overstate how ahri has "no counters". In reality, zed also has no counters. If you think ahri counters zed you don't know what you're talking about. The lane is pretty even and skill based and both are strong assassins. Ahri arguably has more versatility with charm but zed is an amazing split pusher.

According to faker, nothing really counters gragas in lane.

Now, back to the games. TSM to worlds please!!

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