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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 04 2013 16:28 GMT
#261
Man, I love how this tourney is laid out. SKT being the final boss in this qualification.
liftlift > tsm
TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-04 17:09:52
September 04 2013 17:09 GMT
#262
On September 05 2013 01:03 thefreed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2013 23:12 AsnSensation wrote:
Perhaps that's what the best korea has to offer in your opinion but aside from Faker ( who looked mortal in the first 2 games vs KTB) nobody stands out individually at the moment to the extent that I would put him without a doubt into an allstar team.

TOP: add Impact
Jungle: lol you forgot Dandy
Supp: Mata is just as go[o]d


Sure Impact is one of the good top laners of Korea... But not of the BEST. Yeah he did perform well in the finals... But I don't think he's been as consistent and "impact-ful" as Shy, Flame, or InSec... Hardly. If he keeps up this performance sure... but in my opinion, not as complete of a player as Flame.
Most of the time I've seen him played... seemed pretty meh to me... Like good but not great.

Dandy... Okay he is an OKAY jungler. If you have watched InSec... When he was still jungling... You can just tell Dandy can't be in the same league with this guy. I mean seriously? He's just not as consistent. I only see him really perform once in awhile. While Insec when he was jungling would have an MVP viable game every day he played. Insec is the STAR of his team while dandy isn't. Insec is capable of playing herbivore style too. (and while you could argue, being praised or recognized doesn't always mean he's good but... come on he's Insec for Godsakes.

Mata... okay... but I haven't seen the other team ban 2 champions just because of him. I mean okay he is a great support... and I believe Poohmandu is pretty good too. but Madlife's presence, or influence in a game when he has thresh, or blitzcrank is just unbelievable. and even if he doesn't have them. His sona is probably the best sona in the korean scene.

I mean people don't call these players God for no reason.


That are your very biased oppinions. Which is fine, but I would totally disagree with several of your choices.

Top: Flame or Insec. These are exceptional Top Laners now and there is noone else on their level.
Jungle: Dandy and only Dandy. The way he reads the game, the way he can turn games from this position is just not reached by anyone out there.
Mid: Faker. No discussion.
adc: Imp or Piglet. Piglet showed great improvement but I still would take Imp. I do think though, that both are on a similar level.
support: Mata. Madlife is great, when he gets his favored champions. But that it is so easy to ban him out, is really shocking. Take away Blitzcrank and Thresh and he becomes just another good support. Mata has a much wider champion pool at an exceptional level.

But I guess everyone has another oppinion on this topic, but it´s fun to discuss


ontopic: I find it very sad for KT B to lose two series in a row in this fashion. I hope they don´t break mentally on this.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
September 04 2013 17:14 GMT
#263
Game 3, CloudTemplar went an odd build that I haven't seen before on Noc. Madreds into Zerker. Kindle, Chain Vest. Ended the game with Sunfire, Golem SS, Zerker, Phage, Glacial, Madreds. @_@

I don't think I've seen a pro go Madred's/Spirit Stone prior to this.
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 04 2013 17:16 GMT
#264
On September 05 2013 02:14 NeoIllusions wrote:
Game 3, CloudTemplar went an odd build that I haven't seen before on Noc. Madreds into Zerker. Kindle, Chain Vest. Ended the game with Sunfire, Golem SS, Zerker, Phage, Glacial, Madreds. @_@

I don't think I've seen a pro go Madred's/Spirit Stone prior to this.

Yango was talking about this a while ago, it makes farming jungle EXTREMELY fast. I've done it a a couple times, I'm still not 100% convinced.
liftlift > tsm
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
September 04 2013 17:20 GMT
#265
Wasn't Yango saying how Madreds/Spirit is better than upgrading the madreds to wriggles.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
September 04 2013 17:25 GMT
#266
Yango definitely talked about the merits of Madreds/SS a few months ago but I personally haven't tried. I might have to now.
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35162 Posts
September 04 2013 18:04 GMT
#267
Congrats KT, your confidence fucked you again.
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
September 04 2013 18:09 GMT
#268
Soo... if all of this LoL ProLeague stuff is really happening with the KeSPA teams... we might have stuff like this on a regular basis. Just imagine the insanity.
Argoth.
Profile Joined December 2004
Germany1961 Posts
September 04 2013 18:09 GMT
#269
Really, so close these escapes. holy shit
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
September 04 2013 19:06 GMT
#270
No way would I take flame over shy right now. I think flame is probably more talented and the better laner, but the meta favors shy's champions right now, particularly shen.

Jungle has yet to catch up to Insec but it seems their style in general is different. Insec would typically get a lot more farm.

ADCs.. Only imp and piglet should be in the discussion. I have yet to see anyone teamfight like piglet has though. He doesn't just stay alive, he also takes out high priority targets by himself. Both are solid overall, but piglet has raised the bar this season.
glzElectromaster
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
September 04 2013 19:37 GMT
#271
On September 05 2013 02:09 TeeTS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 01:03 thefreed wrote:
On September 04 2013 23:12 AsnSensation wrote:
Perhaps that's what the best korea has to offer in your opinion but aside from Faker ( who looked mortal in the first 2 games vs KTB) nobody stands out individually at the moment to the extent that I would put him without a doubt into an allstar team.

TOP: add Impact
Jungle: lol you forgot Dandy
Supp: Mata is just as go[o]d


Sure Impact is one of the good top laners of Korea... But not of the BEST. Yeah he did perform well in the finals... But I don't think he's been as consistent and "impact-ful" as Shy, Flame, or InSec... Hardly. If he keeps up this performance sure... but in my opinion, not as complete of a player as Flame.
Most of the time I've seen him played... seemed pretty meh to me... Like good but not great.

Dandy... Okay he is an OKAY jungler. If you have watched InSec... When he was still jungling... You can just tell Dandy can't be in the same league with this guy. I mean seriously? He's just not as consistent. I only see him really perform once in awhile. While Insec when he was jungling would have an MVP viable game every day he played. Insec is the STAR of his team while dandy isn't. Insec is capable of playing herbivore style too. (and while you could argue, being praised or recognized doesn't always mean he's good but... come on he's Insec for Godsakes.

Mata... okay... but I haven't seen the other team ban 2 champions just because of him. I mean okay he is a great support... and I believe Poohmandu is pretty good too. but Madlife's presence, or influence in a game when he has thresh, or blitzcrank is just unbelievable. and even if he doesn't have them. His sona is probably the best sona in the korean scene.

I mean people don't call these players God for no reason.


That are your very biased oppinions. Which is fine, but I would totally disagree with several of your choices.

Top: Flame or Insec. These are exceptional Top Laners now and there is noone else on their level.
Jungle: Dandy and only Dandy. The way he reads the game, the way he can turn games from this position is just not reached by anyone out there.
Mid: Faker. No discussion.
adc: Imp or Piglet. Piglet showed great improvement but I still would take Imp. I do think though, that both are on a similar level.
support: Mata. Madlife is great, when he gets his favored champions. But that it is so easy to ban him out, is really shocking. Take away Blitzcrank and Thresh and he becomes just another good support. Mata has a much wider champion pool at an exceptional level.

But I guess everyone has another oppinion on this topic, but it´s fun to discuss


ontopic: I find it very sad for KT B to lose two series in a row in this fashion. I hope they don´t break mentally on this.


You could do the same to mata and he'll be average. That doesnt happen because Ozone actually will rape you if you only ban support.

Top: Shy/Flame/inSec if he gets his champs
Jungle: DanDy, KaKAO on a good day. inSec was a good jungler but I never thought he had the finesse of DanDy. KTB in Winter and Spring ran new comps and strategies that teams weren't used to, so I don't necessarily credit all of their success to their mechanics and decision making.
Mid: Faker
Adc: Imp/Piglet. Imp I think can adapt better than Piglet, though. Don't forget Pray, despite a bad season, he's still freaking good.
RIP Kt. Violet | In solitude, where we are least alone
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
September 04 2013 19:41 GMT
#272
On September 05 2013 02:25 NeoIllusions wrote:
Yango definitely talked about the merits of Madreds/SS a few months ago but I personally haven't tried. I might have to now.

Madreds/Kindle/SS+ is better than Madreds/SS/Kindle/SS+ imo

The SS+ item is just ridiculously flexible and pretty efficient.
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 04 2013 20:08 GMT
#273
On September 05 2013 04:41 xes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 02:25 NeoIllusions wrote:
Yango definitely talked about the merits of Madreds/SS a few months ago but I personally haven't tried. I might have to now.

Madreds/Kindle/SS+ is better than Madreds/SS/Kindle/SS+ imo

The SS+ item is just ridiculously flexible and pretty efficient.

You miss the farm timing if you get SS after Kindle.
liftlift > tsm
Baffels
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1486 Posts
September 04 2013 22:29 GMT
#274
These blind picks are just crazy bad for KTB. 2 times now Ryu starts elixir and just wastes it, blowing 4 pots against GBM and Faker who both started Dorans Shield. Then picking vayne to fast push with fiddle?

KT needs to three stooges their heads together. Will be awesome if they manage to make it through both CJ's again.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
September 05 2013 01:23 GMT
#275
I'm starting to feel like Flame got overhyped thru empty lane farming into strong team fighting, ever since the 1v2 nerfs he's been not his normal self (which isn't saying much but still the correlation is there) I guess we'll see when he's up against Insec and (hopefully)Shy.

Also that you people would take Mata over Madlife and Mandu is pretty weird to me but ok.
Carrilord has arrived.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 05 2013 01:31 GMT
#276
On September 05 2013 10:23 Slusher wrote:
I'm starting to feel like Flame got overhyped thru empty lane farming into strong team fighting, ever since the 1v2 nerfs he's been not his normal self (which isn't saying much but still the correlation is there) I guess we'll see when he's up against Insec and (hopefully)Shy.

Also that you people would take Mata over Madlife and Mandu is pretty weird to me but ok.

If we had cloning technology, and we created 5 fakers, to face off versus 5 madlifes, who would win? or would the universe implode from the amount of awesomeness the game would have?
liftlift > tsm
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
September 05 2013 01:52 GMT
#277
On September 05 2013 10:31 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 10:23 Slusher wrote:
I'm starting to feel like Flame got overhyped thru empty lane farming into strong team fighting, ever since the 1v2 nerfs he's been not his normal self (which isn't saying much but still the correlation is there) I guess we'll see when he's up against Insec and (hopefully)Shy.

Also that you people would take Mata over Madlife and Mandu is pretty weird to me but ok.

If we had cloning technology, and we created 5 fakers, to face off versus 5 madlifes, who would win? or would the universe implode from the amount of awesomeness the game would have?


5 Flames, yo.
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51497 Posts
September 05 2013 02:09 GMT
#278
2014 Korean All-Stars
Flame, Kakao, Faker, Imp, Madlife
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Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
September 05 2013 02:19 GMT
#279
Idk, if I could somehow vote for insec at jungle even after he moved I would.
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-05 03:45:57
September 05 2013 03:40 GMT
#280
The finals of this event might well be the true world championships
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