EPT[EU LCS] Summer Playoffs - Page 32
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ArcticFox
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Amethyst21
Canada7032 Posts
Feels like Gambit has the stronger teamfight but Bjergsen cannot be 1v1'd be anyone. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On August 23 2013 23:56 Promises wrote: I've got a question on how Arpen etc works I think... In pro-games I always see assasins stack %pen and flat pen to the high heavens, even when very little armor is being built on the enemy team, is this really the best choice? I'd think that after some flat arpen more flat dmg would be more benificial then say the Last Whisper (or Void Staff for AP's), but apparantly I'm wrong... hows does this work? (I'm talking situations where the main enemy tank has some armor, the AP has zhonyas but that's all) LW actually outperforms BT for autos pretty early (around 100 armour iirc?), and when you rely on spells you have base damage that benefit from the penetration too. Also in this case NiP wants early penetration because Zac is their only magic damage*, meaning that Gambit should win if the game goes late enough that they just stack armour. Seeing how their itemisation is predictable, you'd rather have BC/LW a bit early than have to start working on them after you notice all of them finishing a major armour item. * Zyra actually has huge base damage, esp. on plants but considering Gambit's comp I don't think they'll live long. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
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Dan HH
Romania9204 Posts
On August 23 2013 23:56 Promises wrote: I've got a question on how Arpen etc works I think... In pro-games I always see assasins stack %pen and flat pen to the high heavens, even when very little armor is being built on the enemy team, is this really the best choice? I'd think that after some flat arpen more flat dmg would be more benificial then say the Last Whisper (or Void Staff for AP's), but apparantly I'm wrong... hows does this work? (I'm talking situations where the main enemy tank has some armor, the AP has zhonyas but that's all) Actually the more armor you have the less the efficienty per point of armor is. 10 armor = you take 91% phys damage 25 armor = you take 80% phys damage 50 armor = you take 66% phys damage 100 armor = you take 50% phys damage 200 armor = you take 33% phys damage So lowering someone's armor from 50 to 10 has a higher impact on your damage output than lowering someone's armor from 200 to 100. Now the story is a bit different for ADCs because of crits but assassin abilities can't crit. | ||
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Nitan
United States3401 Posts
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GoSuChicken
Germany1726 Posts
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Amethyst21
Canada7032 Posts
This game is over when Genja gets a GA, thats just too much for NiP to deal with. | ||
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skykh
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On August 24 2013 00:06 ArcticFox wrote: And this is why NIP drives me crazy. C'mon, they aren't Alternate. | ||
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Iblis
904 Posts
On August 24 2013 00:03 -Zoda- wrote: Darien not dealing a lot of damage at this point of the game... His blood well management is really subpar, in the entire game he never fought with it full. The attack speed and potential bit more health from the passive ressurect makes such a huge difference, I must say I'm pretty underwhelmed by the aatrox plays from Darien. Edit: and as I say that Alex Ich pulls off a great shockwave and Darien wrecks them with his blood well full. Let's see if it's too late or not. | ||
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TheLink
Australia2725 Posts
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Nitan
United States3401 Posts
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NpG)Explosive
France994 Posts
On August 24 2013 00:03 mr_tolkien wrote: Everything. W gives range and damage, over... A passive attack speed xD Usually kogs go W>E>Q :p I don't know how the fact W gives range and damage makes a difference about whether Q or E should be max second (which is what nafta was questionning). Personnally I'm not so shocked about it in this particular game. Zac, Talon and J4 can all close the gap to Kog regardless of the slow. The armor/mr debuff is far from bad. | ||
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Amethyst21
Canada7032 Posts
Gambit are just stronger now at this point in the game. | ||
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DODswe4
Sweden2157 Posts
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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ArcticFox
United States1092 Posts
Grah. I'll be back for game 3. | ||
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DODswe4
Sweden2157 Posts
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Iblis
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