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Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-03 07:00:43
August 03 2013 06:58 GMT
#1701
On August 03 2013 15:15 nojitosunrise wrote:
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On August 03 2013 14:49 Kinie wrote:
Anyone have an idea why the video is stuttering at like 6:31:00 on twitch when I go into the archives? It's really disheartening, cause even if the games are bad I'd like to watch them so I can learn what to (or not to) do.


you try the youtube or azubu vod?


Haven't tried youtube just yet, and I try to avoid azubu as much as I can, so...

Edit: youtube one works fine, but it's currently at 240p, so...
Kuja900
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3564 Posts
August 03 2013 07:34 GMT
#1702
On August 03 2013 15:42 Gahlo wrote:
I'm ready for this split to be over. TSM is playing like shit and C9's games are too boring for me to care to root in. OGN pls...


C9 games were fun when teams actually looked remotely competitive with them now its just anal rape after anal rape, they have truly exposed how pathetic the NA scene really is sans them.
OMG you nasty gurl
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
August 03 2013 12:56 GMT
#1703
--- Nuked ---
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
August 03 2013 13:13 GMT
#1704
On August 03 2013 21:56 krndandaman wrote:
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On August 03 2013 16:34 Kuja900 wrote:
On August 03 2013 15:42 Gahlo wrote:
I'm ready for this split to be over. TSM is playing like shit and C9's games are too boring for me to care to root in. OGN pls...


C9 games were fun when teams actually looked remotely competitive with them now its just anal rape after anal rape, they have truly exposed how pathetic the NA scene really is sans them.


I think viewers lately rather than feel awe at c9's level of play, experience more disappointment at the level of their opponents. Which is sad to say the least..

I feel sad for the casters that have to try and make the games interesting. Not even Riv deserves that.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
August 04 2013 04:29 GMT
#1705
On August 03 2013 12:47 wei2coolman wrote:
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On August 03 2013 12:30 onlywonderboy wrote:
On August 03 2013 12:28 upperbound wrote:
Every time I realize that, most likely, one of Dig/CLG/Crs/TSM is still going to worlds, a little part of me dies.

Won't be Curse. Could still just be C9 and Vulcun.

WTB good curse. Nyjacky has been so underwhelming this split. Obviously he's not the reason curse is losing so terribly, but I seriously think he has the potential to play full carry mid. But he seriously doesn't play that way. With voyboys champ pool nerfed to hell, I would think they would rotate to allow jacky to carry.


They still play like it was last split where they had solid decision making and team fighting compared to the other teams. Saint could go balls deep because the comps they picked fit and people followed up. Now its like Ok Saint is diving in when no one is in position again..... their communication and their questionable drafting this split is just depressing. Even when they win they tend to give up free objectives for no reason. The game vs TSM this week that they lost a prime example, they were winning and could have been methodical (you know like they were last split early on) and won but then they went balls deep and got their ass kicked and let TSM snowball it into their favor for the win.
Never Knows Best.
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
August 04 2013 05:25 GMT
#1706
They execute the big Korean strats and dominate yo.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Deftscythe
Profile Joined February 2011
United States228 Posts
August 04 2013 08:40 GMT
#1707
On August 03 2013 12:47 wei2coolman wrote:
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On August 03 2013 12:30 onlywonderboy wrote:
On August 03 2013 12:28 upperbound wrote:
Every time I realize that, most likely, one of Dig/CLG/Crs/TSM is still going to worlds, a little part of me dies.

Won't be Curse. Could still just be C9 and Vulcun.

WTB good curse. Nyjacky has been so underwhelming this split. Obviously he's not the reason curse is losing so terribly, but I seriously think he has the potential to play full carry mid. But he seriously doesn't play that way. With voyboys champ pool nerfed to hell, I would think they would rotate to allow jacky to carry.


I'm not so sure Jacky is up to that, to be honest. Jacky is a lot like dyrus, imo. He will usually go even in lane, and do his job in teamfights, but will only occasionally carry with the right champs(Jayce for Dyrus, TF or Lux for Jacky). I remember someone from another team in one of the leaguepedia interviews saying this was basically Crs' problem, no one on their team can be counted on to consistently carry. This was true toward the end of last split too but that was before Saint somehow lost all his decision-making ability and was making up for his team's mediocre laning with good skirmishes and early objectives.

I feel like, in time, Cop and Edward could become the carry duo that the team needs, and maybe with the pressure off Saint could fix whatever has gone wrong with him, and Jacky would feel more free to step up, but that's much more long term than this split.
ExoFun
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2041 Posts
August 07 2013 10:02 GMT
#1708
I also feel the instant ban of Rumble in C9 matches makes the NA handicapped. Its already banned 17 times vs 0 bans in EU/OGN.

So can we say by this fact that the pick and ban phase of NA is lackluster?
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 07 2013 22:15 GMT
#1709
On August 07 2013 19:02 ExoFun wrote:
I also feel the instant ban of Rumble in C9 matches makes the NA handicapped. Its already banned 17 times vs 0 bans in EU/OGN.

So can we say by this fact that the pick and ban phase of NA is lackluster?

I'm not sure what kind of conclusion you're drawing from the Rumble bans. In EU, Rumble has been picked twice all season and has a 50% win rate. It has a lot more to do with EU Top Lanes that don't know how to/don't find the appeal of Rumble. Balls is sick with Rumble, so targeted are completely understandable and even warranted. Equalizer is that fucking good.

I'm not sure how you're jumping to "lackluster" off of the consistent bans of one champion. If anything, EU/KR teams should be scouting and noticing C9's proficiency with Rumble.
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caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6421 Posts
August 07 2013 22:27 GMT
#1710
lolwut. what's with the Rumble hate? Equalizer wins teamfights by itself. Also Rumble isn't just C9's champ; TSM has been playing Rumble for a long time.. If anything NA's drafting and meta is ahead of every other region except Korea.
bnet: caelym#1470 | Twitter: @caelym
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 07 2013 22:38 GMT
#1711
On August 08 2013 07:27 caelym wrote:
lolwut. what's with the Rumble hate? Equalizer wins teamfights by itself. Also Rumble isn't just C9's champ; TSM has been playing Rumble for a long time.. If anything NA's drafting and meta is ahead of every other region except Korea.

1. Dyrus has never played Rumble anywhere close to the level Balls has. Dyrus' Jayce is distinctively better.
2. l0l, let's not get carried away here. NA drafting is still pretty horrendous across the board. I will credit NA for picking out a strong pick in Rumble. Then again, EU/KR have been utilizing Lissandra very often and with good results. NA, not so much. So we can chalk this off to regional playstyles.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
August 07 2013 22:43 GMT
#1712
So, I have a question...

NeoIllusions wrote:
The top five teams at the end of playoffs will return in the spring split next year while the No. 6 team may face relegation in the spring 2014 promotion tournament.

http://na.lolesports.com/season3/split2/articles/na-lcs-bracketology-0

Does this mean that, after Spring and now Summer splits are over, competitive LoL takes a 6-month vacation during autumn and winter for NA and EU?
Go here http://vina.biobiochile.cl/ and input the Konami Code (up up down down left right left right B A)
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6421 Posts
August 07 2013 22:44 GMT
#1713
We can agree to disagree. Just because NA doesn't value some OP (*cough*TF*cough*) champions to focus drafting around them, doesn't mean the drafting itself is bad. Teams are generally very good at preparing drafts vs specific teams.
bnet: caelym#1470 | Twitter: @caelym
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
August 08 2013 02:18 GMT
#1714
TF is even dropping down from 'always ban or pick never not ban or pick' in Korea as we speak. It's not the undefeatable monster it used to be, both due to nerfs and due to adaptations by players.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 09 2013 02:17 GMT
#1715
EU tops are terrible. I wouldnt worry about what they do.
Freeeeeeedom
ExoFun
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2041 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 03:37:06
August 09 2013 03:36 GMT
#1716
On August 08 2013 07:15 NeoIllusions wrote:
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On August 07 2013 19:02 ExoFun wrote:
I also feel the instant ban of Rumble in C9 matches makes the NA handicapped. Its already banned 17 times vs 0 bans in EU/OGN.

So can we say by this fact that the pick and ban phase of NA is lackluster?

I'm not sure what kind of conclusion you're drawing from the Rumble bans. In EU, Rumble has been picked twice all season and has a 50% win rate. It has a lot more to do with EU Top Lanes that don't know how to/don't find the appeal of Rumble. Balls is sick with Rumble, so targeted are completely understandable and even warranted. Equalizer is that fucking good.

I'm not sure how you're jumping to "lackluster" off of the consistent bans of one champion. If anything, EU/KR teams should be scouting and noticing C9's proficiency with Rumble.

Rumble is not OP and you can play vs it and win (Anybody know why PDD doesnt play it anymore @ LPL). But mostly i say its lackluster for give it a ban in the ban phase because not only C9 have good ingame teamfighting but the are also winning most of their games because of their ban/pick phase.

And i think the only way for NA teams to win vs c9 to have overall better ban/pick phase and to have a broader and unpredictable teamcomps.

On August 09 2013 11:17 cLutZ wrote:
EU tops are terrible. I wouldnt worry about what they do.

Soaz and Zorozero huehue
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 09 2013 04:02 GMT
#1717
On August 08 2013 11:18 sylverfyre wrote:
TF is even dropping down from 'always ban or pick never not ban or pick' in Korea as we speak. It's not the undefeatable monster it used to be, both due to nerfs and due to adaptations by players.

TF is countered by ahri. That's why. Watch cj blaze vs kt b. The game 1, and then the ensuing drafts.
liftlift > tsm
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 09 2013 04:21 GMT
#1718
On August 09 2013 12:36 ExoFun wrote:

Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 11:17 cLutZ wrote:
EU tops are terrible. I wouldnt worry about what they do.

Soaz and Zorozero huehue


Hue.

On August 09 2013 13:02 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 11:18 sylverfyre wrote:
TF is even dropping down from 'always ban or pick never not ban or pick' in Korea as we speak. It's not the undefeatable monster it used to be, both due to nerfs and due to adaptations by players.

TF is countered by ahri. That's why. Watch cj blaze vs kt b. The game 1, and then the ensuing drafts.


Dont forget the un-glitched Fizz. Fizz makes ur day terribad.
Freeeeeeedom
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
August 09 2013 04:33 GMT
#1719
On August 09 2013 13:02 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 11:18 sylverfyre wrote:
TF is even dropping down from 'always ban or pick never not ban or pick' in Korea as we speak. It's not the undefeatable monster it used to be, both due to nerfs and due to adaptations by players.

TF is countered by ahri. That's why. Watch cj blaze vs kt b. The game 1, and then the ensuing drafts.

The ironic part comes when NA actually used Ahri to shut down TF systematically a bit before Korea became more comfortable with not banning him, although it says more about NA TF's inability to deal with Ahri and/or Korea's need of side countermeasures to accompany the Ahri pick with a strong mid-late game follow-up than anything.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
ExoFun
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2041 Posts
August 09 2013 10:40 GMT
#1720
On August 09 2013 13:33 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 13:02 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 08 2013 11:18 sylverfyre wrote:
TF is even dropping down from 'always ban or pick never not ban or pick' in Korea as we speak. It's not the undefeatable monster it used to be, both due to nerfs and due to adaptations by players.

TF is countered by ahri. That's why. Watch cj blaze vs kt b. The game 1, and then the ensuing drafts.

The ironic part comes when NA actually used Ahri to shut down TF systematically a bit before Korea became more comfortable with not banning him, although it says more about NA TF's inability to deal with Ahri and/or Korea's need of side countermeasures to accompany the Ahri pick with a strong mid-late game follow-up than anything.

Or just pick Fizz vs it. Hope to see some fizz in NA.
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