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Saturday, Jul 27 4:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) Ninjas in Pyjamas (9-9) Evil Geniuses (8-10)16:00 GMT (+00:00)+ Show Spoiler [Bans and Picks] +NiP vs EG
Bans: Jayce Shen Elise Evelynn Nunu Lissandra
Picks: Twisted Fate Malphite / Thresh Aatrox / Caitlyn Twitch / Xin Zhao Ryze / Nami Kassadin
Gambit Gaming (10-8) Fnatic (10-8)17:00 GMT (+00:00)+ Show Spoiler [Bans and Picks] +Gambit vs Fnatic
Bans: Twisted Fate Zed Kassadin Udyr Elise Thresh
Picks: Sona Shen / Varus Karma / Ashe Blitzcrank / Aatrox Evelynn / Kayle Lissandra
Meet Your Makers (7-11) Team Alternate (10-8)18:00 GMT (+00:00)+ Show Spoiler [Bans and Picks] +MYM vs aTn
Bans: Lissandra Twisted Fate Fiddlesticks Thresh Shen Elise
Picks: Lee Sin Varus / Vi Nami / Corki Ahri / Blitzcrank Fizz / Karthus Kha'Zix
SK Gaming (8-10) Lemondogs (10-8)19:00 GMT (+00:00)+ Show Spoiler [Bans and Picks] +SK vs LD
Bans: Kassadin Vayne Lissandra Shen Nunu Elise
Picks: Twisted Fate Thresh / Jarvan IV Ezreal / Nami Ryze / Caitlyn Zac / Jayce Zed
Sunday, Jul 28 4:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) Team Alternate (10-8) Gambit Gaming (10-8)16:00 GMT (+00:00)+ Show Spoiler [Bans and Picks] +aTn vs Gambit
Bans: Aatrox Twisted Fate Udyr Elise Zed Shen
Picks: Lissandra Sona / Varus Blitzcrank / Graves Renekton / Karma Malphite / Vi Kassadin
Fnatic (10-8) Lemondogs (10-8)17:00 GMT (+00:00)+ Show Spoiler [Bans and Picks] +Fnatic vs LD
Bans: Fiddlesticks Shen Zed Elise Lissandra Ryze
Picks: Varus Kennen / Jarvan IV Xin Zhao / Thresh Caitlyn / Lulu Gragas / Kassadin Talon
SK Gaming (8-10) Evil Geniuses (8-10)18:00 GMT (+00:00)+ Show Spoiler [Bans and Picks] +SK vs EG
Bans: Kassadin Vayne Jayce Shen Elise Lissandra
Picks: Twisted Fate Malphite / Thresh Ezreal / Nami Jarvan IV / Caitlyn Renekton / Udyr Ahri
Meet Your Makers (7-11) Ninjas in Pyjamas (9-9)19:00 GMT (+00:00)+ Show Spoiler [Bans and Picks] +MYM vs NiP
Bans: Evelynn Elise Lissandra Twisted Fate Zac Karthus
Picks: Jarvan IV Ryze / Thresh Fiddlesticks / Caitlyn Aatrox / Draven Ahri / Shen Gragas
+ Show Spoiler [Spoiler-free] ++ Show Spoiler [Overall] +
+ Show Spoiler [July 27] +NiP vs EG + Show Spoiler +Poll: Recommend NiP vs EG Summer Week 7?No (11) 73% Yes (2) 13% If you have time (2) 13% 15 total votes Your vote: Recommend NiP vs EG Summer Week 7? (Vote): Yes (Vote): No (Vote): If you have time
Gambit vs Fnatic + Show Spoiler +Poll: Recommend Gambit vs Fnatic Summer Week 7?No (7) 58% Yes (5) 42% If you have time (0) 0% 12 total votes Your vote: Recommend Gambit vs Fnatic Summer Week 7? (Vote): Yes (Vote): No (Vote): If you have time
MYM vs aTn + Show Spoiler +Poll: Recommend MYM vs aTn Summer Week 7?Yes (4) 44% If you have time (3) 33% No (2) 22% 9 total votes Your vote: Recommend MYM vs aTn Summer Week 7? (Vote): Yes (Vote): No (Vote): If you have time
SK vs LD + Show Spoiler +Poll: Recommend SK vs LD Summer Week 7?No (5) 50% Yes (3) 30% If you have time (2) 20% 10 total votes Your vote: Recommend SK vs LD Summer Week 7? (Vote): Yes (Vote): No (Vote): If you have time
+ Show Spoiler [July 28] +aTn vs Gambit + Show Spoiler +Poll: Recommend aTn vs Gambit Summer Week 7?Yes (14) 93% No (1) 7% If you have time (0) 0% 15 total votes Your vote: Recommend aTn vs Gambit Summer Week 7? (Vote): Yes (Vote): No (Vote): If you have time
Fnatic vs LD + Show Spoiler +Poll: Recommend Fnatic vs LD Summer Week 7?Yes (8) 89% No (1) 11% If you have time (0) 0% 9 total votes Your vote: Recommend Fnatic vs LD Summer Week 7? (Vote): Yes (Vote): No (Vote): If you have time
SK vs EG + Show Spoiler +Poll: Recommend SK vs EG Summer Week 7?Yes (8) 67% No (2) 17% If you have time (2) 17% 12 total votes Your vote: Recommend SK vs EG Summer Week 7? (Vote): Yes (Vote): No (Vote): If you have time
MYM vs NiP + Show Spoiler +Poll: Recommend MYM vs NiP Summer Week 7?No (14) 88% Yes (1) 6% If you have time (1) 6% 16 total votes Your vote: Recommend MYM vs NiP Summer Week 7? (Vote): Yes (Vote): No (Vote): If you have time
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Thanks to Shiroiusagi for the banner.
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Last call for MyM if they wish to stay in LCS.
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No Darker this week @ LCS EU for gambit his comment from reddit:
Hi guys, sadly i cant help my team this week despite its very important for us to do well there. My health needs to recover right now actually, jet lag too stronk, last 7h + 2h flight wasn't good for me at all... I just know i wont perform well enough with current situation and have to visit clinic in next days while my team will play LCS matches.
About me and Genja - well i can only admit that our situation is pretty bad atm, our duo bot synergy is very very weak right now. Watching some better duo lanes like SK's or C9 from NA makes me kinda jelly, but its me being the problem most likely. Lately i dont really understand what Genja does and how he plays and thats why i couldnt act \ respond correctly myself, since Genja isnt a talking person at all it makes solving our problems even harder. Understanding and communicating in duo lane is really important thing and i personally cant enjoy playing without that. So after this LCS week we will do our best to fix that if not i prob gonna find team that will fit me better and genja gonna find ideal support for himself.
pretty disturbing for the Gambit gaming bot lane.
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Intresting, i am starting to get curious about that Genja personality now Or what's lacking of it ^^
Honestly i was suprised how fast darker addapted just looking from the outside of it, for Gambit i hope they work it out between the 2 with the last weeks coming you really dont want another new guy adjusting.
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Not that I'm taking what Darker says entirely for face value but it does seem like he's trying his hardest and once again, Genja's lack of communication seems to be the underlying problem. This completely falls in line with what EDward said about the team after moving to Curse.
Now I don't doubt that Gambit is still one of the best EU teams but it seems these small things will have an impact come Worlds, where teams have little room for error, much less a communication one.
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P.S. gogo LemonPups. 3rd seed plzplzplz.
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On July 27 2013 23:08 NeoIllusions wrote: Not that I'm taking what Darker says entirely for face value but it does seem like he's trying his hardest and once again, Genja's lack of communication seems to be the underlying problem. This completely falls in line with what EDward said about the team after moving to Curse.
Now I don't doubt that Gambit is still one of the best EU teams but it seems these small things will have an impact come Worlds, where teams have little room for error, much less a communication one. Yup sounds like Gambit is in trouble. Darker and arguably Genja are not the strongest playest in the first place. With added communication problems things are looking bad. Ideal solution would have probably been to exchange Genja for example for Freeze who was still available back then, and keep Edward. But who knows what exactly was going on in the team. And Gambit is very restricted if they only want Russian speaking players.
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On July 26 2013 16:45 Silvanel wrote: Last call for MyM if they wish to stay in LCS. Their collapse has been impressive.
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On July 28 2013 00:17 triangle wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2013 16:45 Silvanel wrote: Last call for MyM if they wish to stay in LCS. Their collapse has been impressive. MYM repeating their post season two, godlike for a bit theeen back to mid tier.
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On July 27 2013 23:08 NeoIllusions wrote: P.S. gogo LemonPups. 3rd seed plzplzplz. Not like it matters. As long as they qualify for playoffs.
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On July 28 2013 00:22 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2013 23:08 NeoIllusions wrote: P.S. gogo LemonPups. 3rd seed plzplzplz. Not like it matters. As long as they qualify for playoffs. Well 3rd is going to get EG/SK/MYM while below that will probably NiP/Gambit/Lemonpups so 3rd seed is nice to get.
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Considering how eu scene is right now, I'd say they're all around the same skill level, so even the bracket setup is sort of a crap shoot.
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The rankings won't change anyway. Every team will get out with a 1:1 record this week as usual. #EU
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On July 28 2013 00:49 Don_Julio wrote: The rankings won't change anyway. Every team will get out with a 1:1 record this week as usual. #EU
You make it sounds like it's a bad thing. Dunno but i rather see people on equal level then a 17-2 first place over at NA, with nothing behind them for miles and miles.
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On July 28 2013 01:12 Lysanias wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 00:49 Don_Julio wrote: The rankings won't change anyway. Every team will get out with a 1:1 record this week as usual. #EU You make it sounds like it's a bad thing. Dunno but i rather see people on equal level then a 17-2 first place over at NA, with nothing behind them for miles and miles.
If Cloud 9 randomly put in 5 strangers they would still go into the playoffs xD.
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Both of those team distributions are bad. There can be something in between.
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oh gawd, Riot too gud at dem feel videos. D:
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On July 28 2013 01:13 MrMercuG wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 01:12 Lysanias wrote:On July 28 2013 00:49 Don_Julio wrote: The rankings won't change anyway. Every team will get out with a 1:1 record this week as usual. #EU You make it sounds like it's a bad thing. Dunno but i rather see people on equal level then a 17-2 first place over at NA, with nothing behind them for miles and miles. If Cloud 9 randomly put in 5 strangers they would still go into the playoffs xD.
Prity much and for trolling levels they should just sub Family members
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feels *_*
also " we can get them signed by all the pros, NiP, as well" haha shots fired Krepo.
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On July 28 2013 01:15 Lysanias wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 01:13 MrMercuG wrote:On July 28 2013 01:12 Lysanias wrote:On July 28 2013 00:49 Don_Julio wrote: The rankings won't change anyway. Every team will get out with a 1:1 record this week as usual. #EU You make it sounds like it's a bad thing. Dunno but i rather see people on equal level then a 17-2 first place over at NA, with nothing behind them for miles and miles. If Cloud 9 randomly put in 5 strangers they would still go into the playoffs xD. Prity much and for trolling levels they should just sub Family members  NA teams would still throw a match against their families.
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Wow NiP is so pale except for Mimer :o
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Excited to see what champs mimer can bring to NIP.
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On July 28 2013 01:18 Kenpark wrote: Excited to see what champs mimer can bring to NIP. From his lolking? Rengar, rango, rengo.
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After watching some more games of Shacker I have to say I dont expect too much from him. Actually, I think Snoopeh might even be better. Shacker is still lacking experience and plays way too risky. If EG loses both games I am sure Snoopeh will be back. Not sure what happens if they do better though.
Excited for MIMER on NiP though. At least they are able to pick up the really good guys.
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On July 28 2013 01:18 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 01:18 Kenpark wrote: Excited to see what champs mimer can bring to NIP. From his lolking? Rengar, rango, rengo.
And Eve top, he also plays Kayle, and the rest is just conventional picks.
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Damn,
Wish I had the spare cash to make a donation to Make-A-Wish happen. :/
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On July 28 2013 01:23 Redox wrote: Wow TF for NiP.
Malphite and Thresh for EG tho.
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On July 28 2013 01:23 MrMercuG wrote:Malphite and Thresh for EG tho. Giving krepo thresh is a good thing, he's like early split chauster.
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On July 28 2013 01:19 Redox wrote: After watching some more games of Shacker I have to say I dont expect too much from him. Actually, I think Snoopeh might even be better. Shacker is still lacking experience and plays way too risky. If EG loses both games I am sure Snoopeh will be back. Not sure what happens if they do better though.
Excited for MIMER on NiP though. At least they are able to pick up the really good guys.
I am sure you have seen way more then i have, but to me he gained alot of respect from how he played this first game, for a big crowd and with a new team who he only just joined. Risky oh yes, but refreshing to see from a team like EG, i hope he mixes well and even if his play is not that good atleast offers another view on how to jungle to Snoopeh.
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I should just stop being concerned and pick up Twitch Mid. hue
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On July 28 2013 01:24 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 01:23 MrMercuG wrote:On July 28 2013 01:23 Redox wrote: Wow TF for NiP. Malphite and Thresh for EG tho. Giving krepo thresh is a good thing, he's like early split chauster.
What... I have not watched LCS a lot lately but last I saw Krepo was known for his Thresh and was sometimes even banned against him.
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On July 28 2013 01:25 NeoIllusions wrote: I should just stop being concerned and pick up Twitch Mid. hue Twitch mid + mob boots = rape
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Froggen plays Kassadin? o.O
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Aatrox jungle. Hmm, a pretty random pick there, can't remember even seeing it too often on streams - he's almost always played top..
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On July 28 2013 01:23 MrMercuG wrote:Malphite and Thresh for EG tho. 12sec CD Malph ult on Aatrox's Q tho
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Interesting info that Froggen exclusively played Twitch on his smurf. Still EG does the double teleport malph/kass again. Worked well last time.
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Kind of strange that Ryze didn't take TP when EG have ran this exact strat before with the Double TPs.
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EG went throw the early laning phase alright with the weaker laning setup. Looking good for them imo.
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I thought NiP couldn't change their lineup anymore ?
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On July 28 2013 01:44 Lylat wrote: I thought NiP couldn't change their lineup anymore ?
Think they can't change Bjergsen or Deficio. Extinkt quit though, they didn't want to replace him it seems
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2 flash 2 ult for nothing.. oo NiP not looking really good so far
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On July 28 2013 01:43 Redox wrote: EG went throw the early laning phase alright with the weaker laning setup. Looking good for them imo.
yep Malphite+Kass will wreck teamfights, doesn't matter if NiP is 2k gold ahead mainly thx for tf passive.
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Does anyone know how much the TF passive actually give? Are EG ahead in gold if not for that TF passive?
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Kassadin with most gold in the game. Froggen really needs to do something with this.
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On July 28 2013 01:51 MrMercuG wrote: Does anyone know how much the TF passive actually give? Are EG ahead in gold if not for that TF passive?
+2 gold per cs
Roughly 1,300 gold at this point, so pretty significant.
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On July 28 2013 01:51 MrMercuG wrote: Does anyone know how much the TF passive actually give? Are EG ahead in gold if not for that TF passive?
2 gold per cs. Add NiP's CS together, multiply it by two.
Google would've worked...
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Froggen on assassins. He's just not as good at it as he is with farmers like Lux+Anivia. (Granted Lux can be assassin-esque, but isn't really the same when it isn't all-in..)
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On July 28 2013 01:48 AsnSensation wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 01:43 Redox wrote: EG went throw the early laning phase alright with the weaker laning setup. Looking good for them imo. yep Malphite+Kass will wreck teamfights, doesn't matter if NiP is 2k gold ahead mainly thx for tf passive. Nip still beat eg really hard there at drag :/
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On July 28 2013 01:57 Jamial wrote: Froggen on assassins. He's just not as good at it as he is with farmers like Lux+Anivia. (Granted Lux can be assassin-esque, but isn't really the same when it isn't all-in..)
Froggen has the most gold in the game he is doing alright lol
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What did Deficio all the time? They have no vision anywhere
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On July 28 2013 01:58 MrMercuG wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 01:57 Jamial wrote: Froggen on assassins. He's just not as good at it as he is with farmers like Lux+Anivia. (Granted Lux can be assassin-esque, but isn't really the same when it isn't all-in..) Froggen has the most gold in the game he is doing alright lol
I'm not referring to his farm. His teamfight impact isn't as high as it is when he plays Lux+Anivia. The only assassin he ever managed to have huge impact with was his Lee Sin mid against Fnatic.
He's doing better now, but he doesn't play Zed, doesn't play Kha'zix, Diana. When he has played them, it has been underwhelming, and it's a huge shortcoming in EG's play, imo. :p
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Pete has balls of steel, holding his flash through that gank
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Only just got to watch this. Why are they building super tanky on Aatrox Oo He will have no damage and be utterly useless
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On July 28 2013 02:03 Gorsameth wrote: Only just got to watch this. Why are they building super tanky on Aatrox Oo He will have no damage and be utterly useless
He completely zoned Yellowpete from that fight just now, and is building the standard jungle items in a comp that needs that frontline tank. It's honestly fine, he's like a mini-malphite-jungle.
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On July 28 2013 02:03 Gorsameth wrote: Only just got to watch this. Why are they building super tanky on Aatrox Oo He will have no damage and be utterly useless
Because nowadays every jungler has to go for this build. :/ Which is why they are changing aegis/bulwark.
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On July 28 2013 02:04 Jamial wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 02:03 Gorsameth wrote: Only just got to watch this. Why are they building super tanky on Aatrox Oo He will have no damage and be utterly useless
He completely zoned Yellowpete from that fight just now, and is building the standard jungle items in a comp that needs that frontline tank. It's honestly fine, he's like a mini-malphite-jungle.
I agree, but isnt Zac just a lot better at doing what Aatrox does ?
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Krepo channeling his inner Madlife, nice flash hook.
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On July 28 2013 02:05 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 02:03 Gorsameth wrote: Only just got to watch this. Why are they building super tanky on Aatrox Oo He will have no damage and be utterly useless
Because nowadays every jungler has to go for this build. :/ Which is why they are changing aegis/bulwark. He'd better at least go for the kiwikid yo dawg GA on aatrox.
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On July 28 2013 02:06 Kenpark wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 02:04 Jamial wrote:On July 28 2013 02:03 Gorsameth wrote: Only just got to watch this. Why are they building super tanky on Aatrox Oo He will have no damage and be utterly useless
He completely zoned Yellowpete from that fight just now, and is building the standard jungle items in a comp that needs that frontline tank. It's honestly fine, he's like a mini-malphite-jungle. I agree, but isnt Zac just a lot better at doing what Aatrox does ?
Yes.
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Are people questioning Froggen's Kassadin? This play looks super clean to me from him.
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Froggen really has to play more ballsy. He is not doing much with his impressive items.
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On July 28 2013 02:04 Jamial wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 02:03 Gorsameth wrote: Only just got to watch this. Why are they building super tanky on Aatrox Oo He will have no damage and be utterly useless
He completely zoned Yellowpete from that fight just now, and is building the standard jungle items in a comp that needs that frontline tank. It's honestly fine, he's like a mini-malphite-jungle.
The thing is if you wanne build tanky there are a lot of better junglers to pick then Aatrox. The items on him are not bad on there own but Aatrox doesnt have absurd base damge and limited utility with only his jump. Hes not a good champion to build that on.
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just tuned in, aatrox jungle? :O Seems kinda underwhelming lol
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On July 28 2013 02:09 Neverhood wrote: just tuned in, aatrox jungle? :O Seems kinda underwhelming lol
His jungle is pretty strong and his ganks are not bad at all with his jump and slow. However he needs to build damage. Not tank like NiP is doing.
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On July 28 2013 02:08 Redox wrote: Froggen really has to play more ballsy. He is not doing much with his impressive items. You think so? He's exerting so much map pressure with that Oracle. NiP can't leave that mid turret.
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I've been watching this match for 10 minutes, only two guys died. So boring :/
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On July 28 2013 02:09 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 02:09 Neverhood wrote: just tuned in, aatrox jungle? :O Seems kinda underwhelming lol His jungle is pretty strong and his ganks are not bad at all with his jump and slow. However he needs to build damage. Not tank like NiP is doing. Yea that's what I'm thinking too. Most junglers these days except for like eve have to build tanky and there are simply better champs who do more with tank items than aatrox.
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On July 28 2013 02:10 -Zoda- wrote: I've been watching this match for 10 minutes, only two guys died. So boring :/ EU lcs baby.
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Not sure if Shacker is playing bad, or its just his role to die like that in teamfights. Pretty much zero impact in this game.
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Classic EG nono let's not engage ...
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The fuck did Bjergsen do there? Gifting free baron to EG.
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On July 28 2013 02:13 Amethyst21 wrote: Not sure if Shacker is playing bad, or its just his role to die like that in teamfights. Pretty much zero impact in this game.
yeah he is playing pretty underwhelming this game.
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On July 28 2013 02:13 Amethyst21 wrote: Not sure if Shacker is playing bad, or its just his role to die like that in teamfights. Pretty much zero impact in this game. Well he doesnt have much items. But yeah mediocre player.
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Froggen needs to go push top lane imo
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On July 28 2013 02:15 MrMercuG wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 02:13 Amethyst21 wrote: Not sure if Shacker is playing bad, or its just his role to die like that in teamfights. Pretty much zero impact in this game. yeah he is playing pretty underwhelming this game.
I think it might just be the Xin pic - I just don't know what Xin can do in this game. He can dive, but get blown up. NiP isn't going to dive outside of Malunoo, so his ult is pretty useless. He's pretty much a meatshield/Aegis holder/designated smiter
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Shacker what u thinking man
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Just when they had an opening ...
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Froggen getting so much farm now with full items. :D
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Too bad there's no AP item with Tenacity. Froggen could definitely ditch the boots if there were.
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Pfff what a horrible game, between 2 teams to scared to make calls.
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god like play from Freeze so far!
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This game is 100% dependent on how well Wickd lands his ult.
or EG can run in one at a time...
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lol wtf EG just go in and die 1 by 1
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Just tuned in for the eg throws lol
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Krepo and Froggen are playing great. The rest of the team...ehh not so much.
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I've decided to paddle back on the blind EG and SK hate but frankly I have no idea why(e:how) they just don't steamroll NiP with this comp and a 6 item Kassadin. Shacker so useless 4v6 dude
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Poll: Recommend NiP vs EG Summer Week 7?No (11) 73% Yes (2) 13% If you have time (2) 13% 15 total votes Your vote: Recommend NiP vs EG Summer Week 7? (Vote): Yes (Vote): No (Vote): If you have time
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Lol. It's been 3 years and still no-one knows how to baron dance.
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On July 28 2013 02:23 Lysanias wrote: Pfff what a horrible game, between 2 teams to scared to make calls. Honestly right now, I feel like EU is showing better mechanical skill than NA, but teams looking like they have no idea what they're doing strategically. Games like this get to 50 minutes, one team throws, and there's a winner. Honestly that's why the standings are so close -- it's just so random what happens when games get close to 1 hour.
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On July 28 2013 02:25 upperbound wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 02:23 Lysanias wrote: Pfff what a horrible game, between 2 teams to scared to make calls. Honestly right now, I feel like EU is showing better mechanical skill than NA, but teams looking like they have no idea what they're doing strategically. Games like this get to 50 minutes, one team throws, and there's a winner. Honestly that's why the standings are so close -- it's just so random what happens when games get close to 1 hour. Most games have been stomps, not like this one at all.
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Oh wow they even got a site dedicated to it, impressive !
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I find myself swearing more watching League than watching my mediocre-at-best football team.
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I kinda enjoyed the tension and suspense of the 20 minutes of back and forth posturing. Like both teams made attempts to commit instead of a complete stallfest.
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On July 28 2013 02:25 upperbound wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 02:23 Lysanias wrote: Pfff what a horrible game, between 2 teams to scared to make calls. Honestly right now, I feel like EU is showing better mechanical skill than NA, but teams looking like they have no idea what they're doing strategically. Games like this get to 50 minutes, one team throws, and there's a winner. Honestly that's why the standings are so close -- it's just so random what happens when games get close to 1 hour.
Yeah like I mean Froggen's Kassadin >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scarra's Kassadin (only one example). But holy god do they lack killer instinct - they had 6 Item Kassadin - 5 Item Malphite and they just derped at baron when all they had to do was execute one good teamfight with hugely fed great lategame team. But nope.
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On July 28 2013 02:25 upperbound wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 02:23 Lysanias wrote: Pfff what a horrible game, between 2 teams to scared to make calls. Honestly right now, I feel like EU is showing better mechanical skill than NA, but teams looking like they have no idea what they're doing strategically. Games like this get to 50 minutes, one team throws, and there's a winner. Honestly that's why the standings are so close -- it's just so random what happens when games get close to 1 hour.
Most teams are to scared to lose, to win.
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I wonder if the god damn xin love will end.Such a useless champ.
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On July 28 2013 02:26 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 02:25 upperbound wrote:On July 28 2013 02:23 Lysanias wrote: Pfff what a horrible game, between 2 teams to scared to make calls. Honestly right now, I feel like EU is showing better mechanical skill than NA, but teams looking like they have no idea what they're doing strategically. Games like this get to 50 minutes, one team throws, and there's a winner. Honestly that's why the standings are so close -- it's just so random what happens when games get close to 1 hour. Most games have been stomps, not like this one at all. I feel like it's been both. Yes, there have been a lot of stomps where the gold disparity makes it so that one team can do anything. But if a game is close at 20:00, generally the game is not much closer to being over at 40:00, and the game is still close. Honestly, aTn is doing well because Forellenlord is ballsy enough to go and make plays in the midgame. I can't remember the last time I saw a game where one team took a decisive strategic advantage in the midgame in an otherwise close game.
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On July 28 2013 02:24 AsnSensation wrote: I've decided to paddle back on the blind EG and SK hate but frankly I have no idea why(e:how) they just don't steamroll NiP with this comp and a 6 item Kassadin. Shacker so useless 4v6 dude
Freeze with banshees and perfect positioning meant that Wickd couldn't dive on him, Ryze with items destroying EG.
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On July 28 2013 02:29 Numy wrote: Wait did EG lose?
with a 6 item kassadin nearing 500 farm ... with zero deaths ... o0
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On July 28 2013 02:29 Numy wrote: Wait did EG lose? They went to Baron, got Destiny'd, went B and then NiP started Baron, and the EG members came in one at a time under Baron, 3 died, then NiP pushed mid and won before the EG guys respawned.
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Man my stream died so I came back upstairs. I thought EG were going to do it easily wtf.
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If the next EG game is similar I think it is over for Shacker. Not saying he did really bad, but he has to play well to keep Snoopeh away.
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who is the caster talking to the player? i'm new to league.
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On July 28 2013 02:32 partydude89 wrote: who is the caster talking to the player? i'm new to league. It's Mithy, Lemondogs' support.
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On July 28 2013 02:33 upperbound wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 02:32 partydude89 wrote: who is the caster talking to the player? i'm new to league. It's Mithy, Lemondogs' support.
I think he means who the caster is ^^
A: Jason Kaplan, esl caster
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On July 28 2013 02:33 upperbound wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 02:32 partydude89 wrote: who is the caster talking to the player? i'm new to league. It's Mithy, Lemondogs' support. The caster is Jason Kaplan though.
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thanks guys. sorry for my noobiness.
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Oh, I suck at reading. GG.
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I fell asleep to see that EG lost. How the ... They had good initation with Malph + Shacker, but the damage was never following.
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I really feel like quite a few of the teams, especially in EU LCS just hesitate too much to dive. When there's someone with 200+ armor and 3000+ health, a early dive isn't that risky when: 1. You have a decent lead 2. Waves are pushed preventing any objectives being taken supposing it's a evenish team fight 3. People are likely to be split to defend against multiple pushed waves
I feel like C9 is one of the only teams in the LCS that does diving properly in this sense and it allows them to finish games off without any chance of one dumb team fight or positioning error in late game deciding the game.
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On July 28 2013 02:37 -Zoda- wrote: I fell asleep to see that EG lost. How the ... They had good initation with Malph + Shacker, but the damage was never following.
I don't think followup damage was a problem, they did win basically every teamfight after all, they just instantly backed every time they won.
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On July 28 2013 02:40 Kontossis wrote: I really feel like quite a few of the teams, especially in EU LCS just hesitate too much to dive. When there's someone with 200+ armor and 3000+ health, a early dive isn't that risky when: 1. You have a decent lead 2. Waves are pushed preventing any objectives being taken supposing it's a evenish team fight 3. People are likely to be split to defend against multiple pushed waves
I feel like C9 is one of the only teams in the LCS that does diving properly in this sense and it allows them to finish games off without any chance of one dumb team fight or positioning error in late game deciding the game. Yeah pressure is just extremely high, so teams are scared to lose. Especially true for a team like EG that is still lacking confidence. Imo confidence is one of the most important factors in LoL.
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Whoever wins this will be first place.
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Alex Karma. god i hope he does well :D
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Maybe Ashe will force Genja to actually be involved in fights
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Isn't karma like to support an adc so he can go big. Oh wait it's genja.
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Galio was too mainstream guys. Lets go Karma.
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Is this Gambit or Teamliquid playing? What on earth is this Karma pick...
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On July 28 2013 02:48 upperbound wrote: Maybe Ashe will force Genja to actually be involved in fights Aahahahahahahahaha genja's ashe, helping.
On July 28 2013 02:49 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote: Is this Gambit or Teamliquid playing? What on earth is this Karma pick... Needs more viktor for TL.
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Two top EU teams just throw the current meta out the window. Nice .
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Karma Vs Shen ahah Darien the real innovator !
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Does anyone know who this Voidle guy is?
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On July 28 2013 02:49 Redox wrote: Does anyone know who this Voidle guy is? D4rker is ill so voidle is standing in.
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sOAZ going on his fav champion ! Blitzcrank !
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Not gonna lie.I am pretty confused about this gambit team lol
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On July 28 2013 02:50 nafta wrote: Not gonna lie.I am pretty confused about this gambit team lol Genja is gonna carry!
Grats to fnatic for their win.
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this gambit team comp leaves much to be desired.
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Meh, gold league level indecision and passivity from EG they need to rethink some of their fundamentals wasting baron at this level really doesn't seem like it's ever justified
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Gambit's comp would be great if they were playing Kog or Vayne, but Ashe? Ughhhhh
Edit: wat Jungle Karma wat wat wat
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DIAMOND THE INNOVATOR LOL
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SHEN SUPPORT. WELCOME TO BRONZE 5 WHERE YOU MUST ALWAYS PICK SHEN. Not sure if bronze 5 or LCS.
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Yellowstar playing shen - Soaz on blitz
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fnatic should have this game in the bag i think.
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What, Karma jungle, and Eve top ? I don't even
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Just tuned in. Is this real life? Or is it a troll game?
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Saint your jungle ezreal just got 1-upped man.
What is going on with this game. The teams agreed to randomise rolls beforehand for fun or something. :S
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On July 28 2013 02:52 Amethyst21 wrote: Gambit's comp would be great if they were playing Kog or Vayne, but Ashe? Ughhhhh
Edit: wat Jungle Karma wat wat wat This sums up my thoughts pretty much. Also Yellowstar Shen.. >_>
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On July 28 2013 02:50 Lysanias wrote: sOAZ going on his fav champion ! Blitzcrank !
Called it.
Suprising how skilled sOAZ support play is actualy.
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How did diamond not flash that wtf......
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LOL had to run downstairs to get sth so didn't manage to write it but I knew Diamond was ognna jungle Karma but wtf is the rest, also why is SOaz on BLitz and YS on Shen omg
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NO FUCK SOAZ I WANTED TO SEE HOW SHE WORKS IN THE JUNGLE
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this sona put on his big boy pants this morning
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Hahahahahahahhahhaahhahah
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OMG LOVE VOIDLE ALRDY FULL YOLO STYLE
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Okay now carry Sona. I need a drink.
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This trolling...
Also why didn't Cyanide jump over the wall...
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DoA would be so proud. Sona flash-towerdiving at level 1? 2?
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One of my blind pick team-mates level 2 flash dived like that today.
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Btw funny how noone even cares about Aatrox jungle anymore lol.
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Ok this is the funniest game I have watched in a long time.
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On July 28 2013 02:57 Redox wrote: Btw funny how noone even cares about Aatrox jungle anymore lol. Already happened, that shit is soooo last match.
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Wait...who's Voidle? Where's Darker?
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Annnnnnd Yellowstar gets a kill 1v2...
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How does 1v2 shen have 25cs?
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Dem roster changes... I think Darker doesn't want to play with Genja anymore so he left lol Soaz support and Yellowstar top wtf is Fnatic doing ? Why putting one of the best non korean top player on support ? I don't understand, besides Yellowstar was doing fine supporting.
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On July 28 2013 02:59 Amethyst21 wrote: How does 1v2 shen have 25cs? Yolostar OP top :>
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Damn that was beautiful by Fnatic
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fuck soaz for destroying karmas plan
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Aaaand they are freakishly far behind after that bot fight... (GMB)
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Shiiit, Rekkles + Soaz bot lane inc.
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On July 28 2013 02:59 Lylat wrote: Dem roster changes... I think Darker doesn't want to play with Genja anymore so he left lol Soaz support and Yellowstar top wtf is Fnatic doing ? Why putting one of the best non korean top player on support ? I don't understand, besides Yellowstar was doing fine supporting. If you have a godhand on your team you dont deny him the blitz
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On July 28 2013 02:59 Lylat wrote: Dem roster changes... I think Darker doesn't want to play with Genja anymore so he left lol Soaz support and Yellowstar top wtf is Fnatic doing ? Why putting one of the best non korean top player on support ? I don't understand, besides Yellowstar was doing fine supporting. Mmmmmm... not. The decision is still interesting nevertheless.
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So I'm guessing Diamond wanted Karma because he just expected to support Darien? That didn't work out lol.
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Like a true suport securing those kills ! Dat sOAZ.
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Next in: Gambit gaming disbands
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Ok that was beautiful from Gambit
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hahaha this game is just too good.
in OGN last second swap is not allowed right? we should have more of this, too funny haha
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Karma never going to be picked again
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On July 28 2013 03:05 udgnim wrote: Karma never going to be picked again She's getting megabuffed
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Holy shit SoaZ's Blitzcrank is insane
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On July 28 2013 03:05 udgnim wrote: Karma never going to be picked again
Moreso than that, your team-mates will hold it against you if you pick it in solo-queue.
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On July 28 2013 03:05 udgnim wrote: Karma never going to be picked again Sadly she can not really be evaluated with this game. Got killed lvl1 and Gambit bot derping hard.
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What has been going on with gambit lately
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Meanwhile, Genja has two dorans and a tear.
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They might have got a kill with a crescendo there.
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Peke with the disrespect, LOL.
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I guess Genja will be off the team pretty soon.
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On July 28 2013 03:08 Zhiroo wrote: I guess Genja will be off the team pretty soon. Gambit Chaox confirmed.
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On July 28 2013 03:09 Volband wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 03:08 Zhiroo wrote: I guess Genja will be off the team pretty soon. Gambit Chaox confirmed.
Wouldn't help much.
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Well this seems to go just as well as the Annie/Xin toplane TSM tried a few weeks ago ahah
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They would also need a new support. Even more desperately. Porblem is that they only take Russian speaking players I think.
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On July 28 2013 03:09 nafta wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 03:09 Volband wrote:On July 28 2013 03:08 Zhiroo wrote: I guess Genja will be off the team pretty soon. Gambit Chaox confirmed. Wouldn't help much. Chaox's ashe build not much better. It's 3 dblade into pd.
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That flash+piercing arrow snipe on diamond
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WOW that flash Q from Puszu made this whole game worth it.
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That was painful to watch.
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On July 28 2013 03:11 Redox wrote: They would also need a new support. Even more desperately. Porblem is that they only take Russian speaking players I think. Also the fact that people seem to have trouble getting along with Genja.
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On July 28 2013 03:11 Redox wrote: They would also need a new support. Even more desperately. Porblem is that they only take Russian speaking players I think.
Darker is fine honestly.He is just ill so he isn't playing this week.
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On July 28 2013 03:11 Redox wrote: They would also need a new support. Even more desperately. Porblem is that they only take Russian speaking players I think. I don't think we had enough time to trully get to know Voidle's skills. I mean, he hit his Crescendo, already top 3 NA support quality.
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BT Ashe. Worse than karma jungle.
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On July 28 2013 03:12 nafta wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 03:11 Redox wrote: They would also need a new support. Even more desperately. Porblem is that they only take Russian speaking players I think. Darker is fine honestly.He is just ill so he isn't playing this week.
Dunno man in his reddit thread he has stated quite a few times that genja and him don't work well together and that Diamond and Alex make almost all the decisions during pick/bans so from his point of view it doesn't seem like genja is the "mastermind" like Diamond said in his fb post after allstars, I doubt D4rker will stay as long as edward, especially if they fail to qualify for worlds.
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Darien doing some dirty farming haha That deman.
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Btw I think SOaz wanted BC supp because he wanted to prove a point after he got shat on with Cyanide in Bronze Elo when they were smurfing hahaha.
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On July 28 2013 03:15 AsnSensation wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 03:12 nafta wrote:On July 28 2013 03:11 Redox wrote: They would also need a new support. Even more desperately. Porblem is that they only take Russian speaking players I think. Darker is fine honestly.He is just ill so he isn't playing this week. Dunno man in his reddit thread he has stated quite a few times that genja and him don't work well together and that Diamond and Alex make almost all the decisions during pick/bans so from his point of view it doesn't seem like genja is the "mastermind" like Diamond said in his fb post after allstars, I doubt D4rker will stay as long as edward, especially if they fail to qualify for worlds.
Possible.Wouldn't really mind it but doubt they'd kick genja.One can dream alex/diamond will find actual good teammates though >.>.
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On July 28 2013 03:17 kongoline wrote: karma looks like a fun champ regardless of outcome of this game
Poor fool.
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On July 28 2013 03:17 AsnSensation wrote: Btw I think SOaz wanted BC supp because he wanted to prove a point after he got shat on with Cyanide in Bronze Elo when they were smurfing hahaha. I remember he went Blitzcrank support before, nRated went top I think. I guess he just loves Blitz.
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Gambit starts baron, but after a reality check (BT Ashe, jungle karma), they decide againts it.
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On July 28 2013 03:19 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 03:17 AsnSensation wrote: Btw I think SOaz wanted BC supp because he wanted to prove a point after he got shat on with Cyanide in Bronze Elo when they were smurfing hahaha. I remember he went Blitzcrank support before, nRated went top I think. I guess he just loves Blitz. He played Blitz top once too, and dominated.
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May God have mercy on Genja's soul if he's building a second BT on Ashe.
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What the fucking fuck is Genja doing honestly ? He doesn't even completes his Tear, better buy a BF sword honestly.
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People are thinking too much into this. I doubt this is a permanent team change for Fnatic. Though, Rekkles+sOAz bot lane would be awesome!
He couldn't Avoidle that one! ROFL Deman.
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Genja is so horrid. why does he always try to be "innovative" with shit item builds on ADs. Glad it backfires on him and makes him useless compared to other Ads
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LOL DEMAN "HE COULDN'T AVOIDLE THAT ONE"
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He cant avoidle that one. :D
Was Joe btw.
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What is the point of Gambits teamcomp. What is the point of tear on every ADC by Genja...
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On July 28 2013 03:23 Redox wrote: He cant avoidle that one. :D
Was Joe btw. Oh, I couldn't tell and since the pun was actually funny I thought it was Deman :O
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On July 28 2013 03:19 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 03:17 AsnSensation wrote: Btw I think SOaz wanted BC supp because he wanted to prove a point after he got shat on with Cyanide in Bronze Elo when they were smurfing hahaha. I remember he went Blitzcrank support before, nRated went top I think. I guess he just loves Blitz.
It's by far his fav champion wich he can even play at top. He often goes support on his stream aswell only ever picking blitzcrank, and when he goes duo with Rekkles on ladder it's just scary to watch.
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On July 28 2013 03:23 Numy wrote: What is the point of Gambits teamcomp. What is the point of tear on every ADC by Genja...
So Genja just plays every ADC as an AD caster. It didn't click til I saw him doing this shit on Varus - he stacks AD, ignores the AA enhancing stats like crit/attack speed and focuses on poke skills. It made a lot of sense on MF when ADCs were super weak at the start of S3. On Other ADCs... meh.
What makes it weirder is that Gambit doesn't actually build around this paradigm. Genja goes out and free farms and stays away from fights. If they play him like that, then he should be building doublelift style for a late game AA powerhouse. With the Caster builds Genja rocks he needs to be grouped up with the team midgame and ceding the CS to Alex/Darien but poking down the enemy teams to set Gambit up for objectives.
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On July 28 2013 02:50 Fusilero wrote:D4rker is ill so voidle is standing in.
He says he has jetlag. But i think there are problems between him and genja.
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I don't understand why you all think the BT on Ashe is so bad. His whole plan is to spam volley while kiting, and volley scales with ad, but not with crit. It does make sense with this kite comp in my opinion.
Edit: Same reasoning for him getting tear, but not manamune.
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On July 28 2013 03:31 Prog wrote: I don't understand why you all think the BT on Ashe is so bad. His whole plan is to spam volley while kiting, and volley scales with ad, but not with crit. It does make sense with this kite comp in my opinion.
Who thinks BT is bad? The tear is questionable and he seems to do that on every AD he plays. Spamming volley is meaningless when your team needs you to actually do damage. Hell just give him the blue then.
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On July 28 2013 03:32 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 03:31 Prog wrote: I don't understand why you all think the BT on Ashe is so bad. His whole plan is to spam volley while kiting, and volley scales with ad, but not with crit. It does make sense with this kite comp in my opinion. Who thinks BT is bad? The tear is questionable and he seems to do that on every AD he plays. Spamming volley is meaningless when your team needs you to actually do damage.
Just check the last page for posts like "BT Ashe. Worse than karma jungle". 
Tear is primarily for mana i think. You can't spam volley too long without a mana item.
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People dislike it because he just builds without thinking about damage and only utility.Spamming volley is fine if you have another character on your team who does physical damage but when you don't enemy team just gets mr and you auto lose.This works on varus with bt/lw because he has very high base damage and his w gives him a lot of damage as well.
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On July 28 2013 03:35 nafta wrote: People dislike it because he just builds without thinking about damage and only utility.Spamming volley is fine if you have another character on your team who does physical damage but when you don't enemy team just gets mr and you auto lose.This works on varus with bt/lw because he has very high base damage and his w gives him a lot of damage as well.
I dislike it mainly for he even builds it if he's far behind his oposition, it just makes no sense to punish yourself and your team even more with 0 damage early and mid game.
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On July 28 2013 03:35 nafta wrote: People dislike it because he just builds without thinking about damage and only utility.Spamming volley is fine if you have another character on your team who does physical damage but when you don't enemy team just gets mr and you auto lose.This works on varus with bt/lw because he has very high base damage and his w gives him a lot of damage as well. I don't even get why he does this build utility wise, he gets less farm than sneakycastro's ashe yet is always 40 times less useful than castro is for C9. Even for volley spamming it's not that much better than standard.
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Fnatic picked really smart vs Gambit's kite comp. Lissandra, Blitz, and Shen forces hard engages that's hard to get out off. Aatrox then slows everyone down once the fight starts.
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If he wants really to volley spam he needs CDR boots, Bruta, maybe SotL to do extra damage when poking and more CDR, etc... Or just pick Varus.
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On July 28 2013 03:41 -Zoda- wrote: If he wants really to volley spam he needs CDR boots, Bruta, maybe SotL to do extra damage when poking and more CDR, etc... Or just pick Varus.
Genja's problem is he's stuck in his way's. And now Gambit is paying for it.
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Now corki.Eu lcs pls stahp
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Aatrox and Karma jungle Corki and Vi
This day is crazy.
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Maybe someone will Teemo today.
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These drafts omfg. Vi and Fizz
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At least the picks are really cool today.
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EU champion pool sure is different from NA
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Alternate picked Vi. I like Vi. Therefore, I like Alternate.
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Araneae not even trying to dodge the Qs though... why  He almost always gives away his double buffs on the first gonk
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Kha6 evolution on ulti first.Dem missclicks.
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On July 28 2013 04:00 nafta wrote: Kha6 evolution on ulti first.Dem missclicks. It makes sense contextually.
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The Vi ult was a complete waste though, he should have known FL still had a dash... Kerp gonna carry anyway.
Edit: as I write that, he 1v2s MyM's botlane
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On July 28 2013 04:09 -Zoda- wrote: The Vi ult was a complete waste though, he should have known FL still had a dash... Kerp gonna carry anyway.
FL is doing really well as well, he had a rough lane but is 3/1 already.
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Damn, MYM is getting destroyed.
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And the free fall of MYM goes on. Getting a fizz without ignite is asking for trouble, specialy if you don't make use of that teleport either.
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On July 28 2013 04:13 Lysanias wrote: And the free fall of MYM goes on. Getting a fizz without ignite is asking for trouble, specialy if you don't make use of that teleport either.
He did get an early kill from it in bot lane, FWIW.
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Mokatte goes in ! Mokatte vanishes !
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KILLED KERP FOR NEXUS (turret)
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On July 28 2013 04:19 JALbert wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 04:13 Lysanias wrote: And the free fall of MYM goes on. Getting a fizz without ignite is asking for trouble, specialy if you don't make use of that teleport either. He did get an early kill from it in bot lane, FWIW.
had to use the flash for it, but sure he did. With ignite he'd still had flash to play with.
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On July 28 2013 04:27 catplanetcatplanet wrote: come on guys recommend gmb vs fnc Just wait until diamond tries karma jungle again once diamond latches onto something he's gonna do it until it works.
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On July 28 2013 04:29 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 04:27 catplanetcatplanet wrote: come on guys recommend gmb vs fnc Just wait until diamond tries karma jungle again once diamond latches onto something he's gonna do it until it works. Yeah I remember when he played the first Mundo ever since ages. They lost against CLG.eu and everybody laughed about the pick. Fast forward a month, everybody was playing Mundo.
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On July 28 2013 04:29 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 04:27 catplanetcatplanet wrote: come on guys recommend gmb vs fnc Just wait until diamond tries karma jungle again once diamond latches onto something he's gonna do it until it works. hey it worked with his udyr
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Erlend "nukeduck" Våtevik Holm "We play after next game against SK, I might pick a champion you havnt seen in LCS before!"
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And instalock zed.What a scumbag.Hope sk wins
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He prolly wanted Karma, but Diamond denied him!
Just imagine Ocelote getting decimated by Mid Karma. This thread (and reddit) would explode
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Dat ult in order to dodge the gold cart, nice play
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On July 28 2013 05:01 Amethyst21 wrote: Looks like bad Ocelote showed up today Obligatory "Ocelote is literally hitler" comment from TL lrs.
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Absolutely terrible game from Oce. I feel sorry for his team at this point.
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Paul Boyer @Fnatic_sOAZ 18m diamond karma was not a troll he actually practiced it a lot and its actually pretty good, he couldnt do much since he got shutdown early...
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Ocelote? More like Caught Alot!
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On July 28 2013 05:17 nafta wrote: Honestly all games today look like soloq Too much partying in tenerife ofc.
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Nukeduck is very consistent on these assassins. And Mithy with some good tresh plays also.
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On July 28 2013 05:18 misirlou wrote: why do we flame NA TFs when the only regular EU TF is as bad as them xD
meh Alex Ich, Froggen, Forellenlord, and xPeke are all capable TF players. NA has Mancloud and Link.
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On July 28 2013 05:18 misirlou wrote: why do we flame NA TFs when the only regular EU TF is as bad as them xD Dunno why you call Oce the only regular EU TF, but if he plays it more than others (which I doubt though) then only because his opponents dont rate it this highly. Because TF is picked/banned every single EU LCS game.
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I just looked up zorozero's team history on leaguepedia. He only started playing on competitive teams since December last year on pretty much lemondogs. Man how does someone so good under the radar for so long.
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î dont get it wha they nerf ryze's range. He is still squishy and has to go near his enemys and gets blown up. I think if the nerf happens then we no longer see ryze in lcs or compoetitvie play.
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Kind of an interesting build from zorozero with Visage as his third item. It's a cool alternative to FH against magic teams.
Not much benefit from the healing bonus (I guess helps during his ult) but I like it.
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Fnatic vs. Lemondogs and SK vs. EG tomorrow, we are guaranteed at least a 5 game spread between the top and the relegation line. Finally some definition to the table.
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On July 28 2013 05:28 ticklishmusic wrote: Kind of an interesting build from zorozero with Visage as his third item. It's a cool alternative to FH against magic teams.
Not much benefit from the healing bonus (I guess helps during his ult) but I like it. Its pretty standard nowadays. More heal during his ult is rly good because that is the only time he needs it anyway.
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On July 28 2013 05:30 JALbert wrote: Fnatic vs. Lemondogs and SK vs. EG tomorrow, we are guaranteed at least a 5 game spread between the top and the relegation line. Finally some definition to the table.
SK and EG seem to be the two teams who will fight for the precious 6th place, which makes their match tomorrow really important.
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So is it just me or is the LCS getting more boring by the week?
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On July 28 2013 08:14 Uldridge wrote: So is it just me or is the LCS getting more boring by the week? Look at the standing... what is not exciting? Some teams don't know how to finish games or are afraid to lose, but i think this season is really good.
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On July 28 2013 09:25 ExoFun wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 08:14 Uldridge wrote: So is it just me or is the LCS getting more boring by the week? Look at the standing... what is not exciting? Some teams don't know how to finish games or are afraid to lose, but i think this season is really good.
While the standings are very close indeed, I hardly see any flashy gameplay anymore.. Either it's huge fuckups by one team or it's a stalemate with half an hour of barondancing. The games just don't seem to be as smooth as they were in the spring split.. perhaps this is just me getting a LoL overdose though haha :p
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On July 28 2013 09:25 ExoFun wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 08:14 Uldridge wrote: So is it just me or is the LCS getting more boring by the week? Look at the standing... what is not exciting? Some teams don't know how to finish games or are afraid to lose, but i think this season is really good.
The thing is, being able to finish games is a necessary skill for any high level team, and fear is something that is limiting many. People usually have no trouble diving under the outer turrets with just a number advantage (2v1, 3v1), even when they are behind, but for some reason, the closer they get to the base, the more hesitant they are to dive even if they do have a a sizable gold advantage. For some reason, people have an idea that you simply have to wait for a positioning mistake to catch someone or you have to win a very decisive teamfight for an objective such as Baron to finish the game. Newsflash, some teams will just farm it up till late game when none of that matters, so then the story of the game becomes who can make one mistake first.
I'm not very good by all means just watching streams and never really playing, but a dive at the inhibitor turrets isn't really risky when you ensure that the other waves are pushed, have vision/knowledge of the other team, and you have a decent lead. If your composition is not suited to diving/teamfighting, you have to split push properly with good communication and sending people to the right lanes to get the turrets + inhib which will THEN allow you to get other objectives safely/with little or no contest due to a gold advantage.
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On July 28 2013 11:19 Uldridge wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 09:25 ExoFun wrote:On July 28 2013 08:14 Uldridge wrote: So is it just me or is the LCS getting more boring by the week? Look at the standing... what is not exciting? Some teams don't know how to finish games or are afraid to lose, but i think this season is really good. While the standings are very close indeed, I hardly see any flashy gameplay anymore.. Either it's huge fuckups by one team or it's a stalemate with half an hour of barondancing. The games just don't seem to be as smooth as they were in the spring split.. perhaps this is just me getting a LoL overdose though haha :p The level of play is surely higher than in the spring split. It is always increasing, basically per default. Which is why the old teams are having more and more problems. And just yesterday there were quite a few flashy plays.
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On July 28 2013 11:19 Uldridge wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 09:25 ExoFun wrote:On July 28 2013 08:14 Uldridge wrote: So is it just me or is the LCS getting more boring by the week? Look at the standing... what is not exciting? Some teams don't know how to finish games or are afraid to lose, but i think this season is really good. While the standings are very close indeed, I hardly see any flashy gameplay anymore.. Either it's huge fuckups by one team or it's a stalemate with half an hour of barondancing. The games just don't seem to be as smooth as they were in the spring split.. perhaps this is just me getting a LoL overdose though haha :p
the NiP EG game was close as hell until the game deciding fight. It might not have been the flashiest game, but the tension was pretty damn high.
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Hey look at this...I'm caring about EU LCS again for more than NiP.
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Hoping for Jungle Karma again! several pros on twitter ( soaz, hyrqbot, Ocelote) said that Diamond actually practiced it a ton and I want to see it without getting shutdown lvl 2 already.
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I want to see it working so that I can play it in soloQ after, saying it's legit.
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Aatrox/udyr bans.Eu lcs meta sure is different
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Gambit went on to ban the OP shit so ATN could go for targeted bans only. Not sur how I like the Blitz pick, Jree isn't that good with him 
Edit: Araneae looks so stressed wow
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WOOT you better not mess with that bad ass referee
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Wouldn't be eu lcs without a delay.
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YES Karma Jungle! but against blitz again T.T
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Yay aranae on vi again, she was my favorite jungler so I'd love to see her back.
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tear on genja varus again? hue
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On July 29 2013 01:37 Kiett wrote: tear on genja varus again? hue
He's done tear on Varus before. It was about as effective as you imagine it would be.
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On July 29 2013 01:19 BobMcJohnson wrote: yay Karma again :D
Couldn't follow LCS this weekend, but apparently it's Karma in the jungle that makes people cheer. Would someone be so kind to explain what's up with jungle Karma this weekend?
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Diamond wants to make something mainstream again.That's pretty much it.
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On July 29 2013 01:38 little fancy wrote:Couldn't follow LCS this weekend, but apparently it's Karma in the jungle that makes people cheer. Would someone be so kind to explain what's up with jungle Karma this weekend? Diamond is trying to table flip the meta again.
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On July 29 2013 01:38 little fancy wrote:Couldn't follow LCS this weekend, but apparently it's Karma in the jungle that makes people cheer. Would someone be so kind to explain what's up with jungle Karma this weekend?
Diamond practiced it in SoloQ all week and picked it yesterday but got shutdown before even getting his 2nd buff by Soaz on BLitzcrank. Should be interesting.
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Didn't he stop building tear on varus actually ?
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On July 29 2013 01:41 NeoIllusions wrote: l0l, Vi says sup? Vi gives 0 fucks.
Nnnngh that gank.
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Gambit's blue still not cleared... that will probably hurt them in the long term
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diamond really trying to get karma jungle to work huh
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Im so glad there are still players who play Vi, and not abandon her just because she's not broken anymore. Something the NA scene never does.
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I'd imagine Karma might be decent jungle if W could actually target creeps. Baffles me that it can'ts
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Gambit's second blue is coming up at about 12:00.
Not like they have blue dependent champions or anything...
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I didn't realize until this game that Karma is indeed very strong for pushing turrets 3v1/3v2.
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On July 29 2013 01:44 Volband wrote: Im so glad there are still players who play Vi, and not abandon her just because she's not broken anymore. Something the NA scene never does. EU abandoned her until yesterday. Bias harder pls.
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On July 29 2013 01:46 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 01:44 Volband wrote: Im so glad there are still players who play Vi, and not abandon her just because she's not broken anymore. Something the NA scene never does. EU abandoned her until yesterday. Bias harder pls.
when playing for money/job you should only play what you feel is OP/A+ tier, anything else is a scrub mentality.
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On July 29 2013 01:47 Slusher wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 01:46 Gahlo wrote:On July 29 2013 01:44 Volband wrote: Im so glad there are still players who play Vi, and not abandon her just because she's not broken anymore. Something the NA scene never does. EU abandoned her until yesterday. Bias harder pls. when playing for money/job you should only play what you feel is OP/A+ tier, anything else is a scrub mentality. And I fully agree. Was Kerp 6th manning?
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Genja with double dorans into BF sword. Let that just sink in for a while
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On July 29 2013 01:44 Nos- wrote: diamond really trying to get karma jungle to work huh
u'll nvr know next month u see it in other tournaments like volibear and nasus
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Karma has amazing utility. The empowered E is huge in teamfights. It's just these days Mid laners always have to be carrying so having pure utility isn't that great.
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On July 29 2013 01:50 justiceknight wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 01:44 Nos- wrote: diamond really trying to get karma jungle to work huh u'll nvr know next month u see it in other tournaments like volibear and nasus I can see a lot of similarities between Karma's slow/utility and Voli/Nasus. But she doesn't itemize tanky, which is my main concern.
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Third time the cha... hook
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Walls are the biggest counter to flash it seems
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seems like blitz will be coming out a lot vs karma eh? keep getting grabbed diamond :3
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On July 29 2013 01:46 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 01:44 Volband wrote: Im so glad there are still players who play Vi, and not abandon her just because she's not broken anymore. Something the NA scene never does. EU abandoned her until yesterday. Bias harder pls. Yesterday > never ever.
On July 29 2013 01:47 Slusher wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 01:46 Gahlo wrote:On July 29 2013 01:44 Volband wrote: Im so glad there are still players who play Vi, and not abandon her just because she's not broken anymore. Something the NA scene never does. EU abandoned her until yesterday. Bias harder pls. when playing for money/job you should only play what you feel is OP/A+ tier, anything else is a scrub mentality. Yes, failing with Lee Sin and Nunu is the real trademark of a professional player.
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Okay, sorry Jree, you can do it nice.
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I think Karma jungle could work because it brings so much utility and she pushes really well, however I feel that is wasted with two melee solo laners who can't hit turrets. Prove me wrong Gambit!
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On July 29 2013 01:53 Volband wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 01:46 Gahlo wrote:On July 29 2013 01:44 Volband wrote: Im so glad there are still players who play Vi, and not abandon her just because she's not broken anymore. Something the NA scene never does. EU abandoned her until yesterday. Bias harder pls. Yesterday > never ever. Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 01:47 Slusher wrote:On July 29 2013 01:46 Gahlo wrote:On July 29 2013 01:44 Volband wrote: Im so glad there are still players who play Vi, and not abandon her just because she's not broken anymore. Something the NA scene never does. EU abandoned her until yesterday. Bias harder pls. when playing for money/job you should only play what you feel is OP/A+ tier, anything else is a scrub mentality. Yes, failing with Lee Sin and Nunu is the real trademark of a professional player.
I don't understand what you mean? not being as good as your opponent and not using the choices at your disposal to help with a victory are two completely different things unless you mean something different?
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I like Vi as a skirmisher or as the jungler in a pick comp, but she isn't a great teamfight champ in my opinion - not tanky enough and doesn't bring utility outside of her ult.
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Renekton (not especially Darien's) is such a beast in the midgame, it's a pity he doesn't see a lot more play.
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Darien is an absolute beast with the crocodile wow
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Vi is such a cool champ, but I kinda fail to see what the point is of picking her over Jarvan :/
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On July 29 2013 01:56 Amethyst21 wrote: I like Vi as a skirmisher or as the jungler in a pick comp, but she isn't a great teamfight champ in my opinion - not tanky enough and doesn't bring utility outside of her ult.
I'm actually suprised people don't use Vi for lane swaps, I think she brings a lot to the table with levels/farm and she has decent tools for 1v2 (waveclear/shield/dash) if you transition her to empty lane farm it could get her to critical mass faster similar to Ryze's rise to popularity.
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Gambit are very much still in the game. Sadly WhiteKnight is nowhere near Creaton's level...
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That fight would've been a lot different if FLord had ultimate though
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WTF is WhiteKnight doing...
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oh Gambit, the original EU teamfighters.
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Damn there is that oldschool Gambit teamfighting. Excellent.
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WHAT Y'ALL SAYING NOW HATERS :D Diamond next level baits.
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Malph ult way too late. ATN was dead for the most part before it hit.
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ATN has no damage... Kerp or Ara needs to go damage.
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Don't know how good the Karma jungle is. Seems more like standard Gambit teamfighting.
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Genja ulted malph.He wasn't in range to ulti earlier.
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On July 29 2013 01:56 Slusher wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 01:53 Volband wrote:On July 29 2013 01:46 Gahlo wrote:On July 29 2013 01:44 Volband wrote: Im so glad there are still players who play Vi, and not abandon her just because she's not broken anymore. Something the NA scene never does. EU abandoned her until yesterday. Bias harder pls. Yesterday > never ever. On July 29 2013 01:47 Slusher wrote:On July 29 2013 01:46 Gahlo wrote:On July 29 2013 01:44 Volband wrote: Im so glad there are still players who play Vi, and not abandon her just because she's not broken anymore. Something the NA scene never does. EU abandoned her until yesterday. Bias harder pls. when playing for money/job you should only play what you feel is OP/A+ tier, anything else is a scrub mentality. Yes, failing with Lee Sin and Nunu is the real trademark of a professional player. I don't understand what you mean? not being as good as your opponent and not using the choices at your disposal to help with a victory are two completely different things unless you mean something different? I agree that you should pick completely broken champs (pre-nerf Eve, pre-nerf Diana, pre-nerf Olaf, etc), but I highly disagree picking good champions (Nunu, Lee) you suck with, instead of playing champs that you are more comfortable or better with. Yes, Insec should play Lee Sin, he's trully feeling him and can utilize all of his strengths, but if you can't even land a Q, then why not pick something you can actually play with? Vi is a pretty good all-around jungler, but in NA, pro players rather do terrible with Nunu (except Meteos, but he's from C9, so let's not mash him up with the rest of the NA scene), which I just can't understand.
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Diamond gets to 40% CDR and transitions into Aegeis. Love it.
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Diamond and Darien beasting it up this game and Gambit with a very well orchestrated fight in general
Awesome game
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On July 29 2013 02:02 caelym wrote: ATN has no damage... Kerp or Ara needs to go damage.
Yeah, unfortunately the tank + 3 utility champs + Graves comp isn't much better than tank + 3 utility + Ezreal that ATN tried earlier...
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couldnt even burst down sona
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Darien deserves a fucking MVP for this, and for all the hate he always get's.
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ahhh Darien doing well on Croco reminds me of that one Event when there was light at the end of the tunnel and koreans looked vulnerable
e: though, bt+pickaxe for genja vs 3 item whiteknight oO
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I wonder what Riot thinks about this. Happy that someone actually found a place for karma, or sad, that it's in the jungle?
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On July 29 2013 02:04 caelym wrote:couldnt even burst down sona 
Layered CC pretty badly there too.
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On July 29 2013 02:03 Volband wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 01:56 Slusher wrote:On July 29 2013 01:53 Volband wrote:On July 29 2013 01:46 Gahlo wrote:On July 29 2013 01:44 Volband wrote: Im so glad there are still players who play Vi, and not abandon her just because she's not broken anymore. Something the NA scene never does. EU abandoned her until yesterday. Bias harder pls. Yesterday > never ever. On July 29 2013 01:47 Slusher wrote:On July 29 2013 01:46 Gahlo wrote:On July 29 2013 01:44 Volband wrote: Im so glad there are still players who play Vi, and not abandon her just because she's not broken anymore. Something the NA scene never does. EU abandoned her until yesterday. Bias harder pls. when playing for money/job you should only play what you feel is OP/A+ tier, anything else is a scrub mentality. Yes, failing with Lee Sin and Nunu is the real trademark of a professional player. I don't understand what you mean? not being as good as your opponent and not using the choices at your disposal to help with a victory are two completely different things unless you mean something different? I agree that you should pick completely broken champs (pre-nerf Eve, pre-nerf Diana, pre-nerf Olaf, etc), but I highly disagree picking good champions (Nunu, Lee) you suck with, instead of playing champs that you are more comfortable or better with. Yes, Insec should play Lee Sin, he's trully feeling him and can utilize all of his strengths, but if you can't even land a Q, then why not pick something you can actually play with? Vi is a pretty good all-around jungler, but in NA, pro players rather do terrible with Nunu (except Meteos, but he's from C9, so let's not mash him up with the rest of the NA scene), which I just can't understand.
We agree completely.
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I know I am not happy for karma jungle doing well since now I have to ban her or risk losing every single soloq for next few days.
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On July 29 2013 02:08 nafta wrote: I know I am not happy for karma jungle doing well since now I have to ban her or risk losing every single soloq for next few days. hue "I saw this on LCS"
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You know shit got serious when Genja buys Berserkers.
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On July 29 2013 02:02 Numy wrote: Don't know how good the Karma jungle is. Seems more like standard Gambit teamfighting.
This is exactly how I feel. They would've done better with a standard comp imo.
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uh, Jree? You sure that was the best player to hook?
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On July 29 2013 02:06 Volband wrote: I wonder what Riot thinks about this. Happy that someone actually found a place for karma, or sad, that it's in the jungle? mantra-ed shield and link have really insane values for the heal and shield which makes karma unexpectedly good at baiting and being a frontline. but I feel karma may be a better offlaner than jungle.
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honestly if they copy this build (and don't go deathcap or something stupid) it has potential even at low skill levels.
like have you ever played a Silver game with a Lee Sin, I'd rather have Karma.
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Diamond has more cs than malphite and Lissandra.
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ugh, poor ATN. Losing Creaton...
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WK misplays and loses the 3rd teamfight in a row, sigh.
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On July 29 2013 02:08 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 02:08 nafta wrote: I know I am not happy for karma jungle doing well since now I have to ban her or risk losing every single soloq for next few days. hue "I saw this on LCS" Once I asked a 0-3 blue ez wannabe, why does he have a spirit stone, a tear againts a 2 dorans, longsowrd, berserkers MF. He said i'm a noob, because I don't know blue EZ, which all the pros use. I can never get back those League Points.
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On July 29 2013 02:11 NeoIllusions wrote: ugh, poor ATN. Losing Creaton...
agreed, that's a huge disadvantage, but Flord and Kerp suck pretty hard this game, whiteknight was doing fine.
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On July 29 2013 02:11 AsnSensation wrote:agreed, that's a huge disadvantage, but Flord and Kerp suck pretty hard this game, whiteknight was doing fine. ?? We watching the same team fights?
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Voidle definitely has EDward's troll level down pat.
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On July 29 2013 02:11 AsnSensation wrote:agreed, that's a huge disadvantage, but Flord and Kerp suck pretty hard this game, whiteknight was doing fine.
Not really, first teamfight at dragon whiteknight mispositioned himself and was unable to do any damage, 2nd teamfight top he ran into 4 Gambit members to chase Diamond and exploded, and now he died before the teamfight even started.
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On July 29 2013 02:12 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 02:11 AsnSensation wrote:On July 29 2013 02:11 NeoIllusions wrote: ugh, poor ATN. Losing Creaton... agreed, that's a huge disadvantage, but Flord and Kerp suck pretty hard this game, whiteknight was doing fine. ?? We watching the same team fights?
haha my bad
Kassadin such a nice champ, especially when one RQE takes 70% of your life
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Alex just flashed while in Liss ulti. Is that meant to happen?
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Genja was so late to that fight, still won!
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Best part about Karma jungle - free Locket at half the cooldown, bigger range & scaling with AP.
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Some days I think Gambit just flip a coin before a game Heads - Best team in EU Tails - Mindblowingly awful play, builds and decision-making
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I wonder if this game would have been different if Kerp went sorc boots and haunting guise.
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I don't know what's funnier; Karma beasting it up, or the coming karma bans againts Gambit. Just imagine the bans vs Gambit: Aatrox, Udyr, Karma - lol. Maybe dorans blade Annie instead of Aatrox, since he's becoming popular.
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On July 29 2013 02:15 Amethyst21 wrote: Some days I think Gambit just flip a coin before a game Heads - Best team in EU Tails - Mindblowingly awful play, builds and decision-making
I'm not even worried about Gambit during the regular season anymore, I just tell myself that they try out shit but when it comes to the Playoff events where huge $$$ is on the line I hope the Russian beast shows up.
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Holy shit I just got onto the stream, is this an actual semi decent genja build?
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On July 29 2013 02:17 Fusilero wrote: Holy shit I just got onto the stream, is this an actual semi decent genja build? Your eyes deceive you. Blink a few times. I see Muramana/Hurricane on Genja.
>_>;;
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Poll: Recommend aTn vs Gambit Summer Week 7?Yes (14) 93% No (1) 7% If you have time (0) 0% 15 total votes Your vote: Recommend aTn vs Gambit Summer Week 7? (Vote): Yes (Vote): No (Vote): If you have time
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That's just how Russians are I rate. Navi are same thing. They looked terrible coming into TI2 then defeat the team that was playing seemingly perfect Dota and eventually coming 2nd place.
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On July 29 2013 02:15 caelym wrote: I wonder if this game would have been different if Kerp went sorc boots and haunting guise.
full Tank Malphite at least has it's uses, full tank Vi on the otherhand is pretty much useless.
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Alternate really need to improve their drafting, yet another game where they could not teamfight due to not having any damage
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Figured it out, diamond is repenting for his past BM by saving the community from the two biggest troll picks, karma and heimerdonger jungle and making them legit and therefore stopping them.
Heimerdonger diamond coming soon.
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On July 29 2013 02:17 AsnSensation wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 02:15 Amethyst21 wrote: Some days I think Gambit just flip a coin before a game Heads - Best team in EU Tails - Mindblowingly awful play, builds and decision-making I'm not even worried about Gambit during the regular season anymore, I just tell myself that they try out shit but when it comes to the Playoff events where huge $$$ is on the line I hope the Russian beast shows up.
Yeah I generally don't worry about Gambit either - I think with their travel schedule they simply don't give a crap about LCS regular season, in fact I think they'd be happier to qualify as the CIS team and just beat the crap out of the Rest of the World Teams at Gamescom.
I still remember IEM Katowice where they lost to Curse in the group stage and fluked through on a tiebreaker. Pretty much everyone wrote them off. The next day they went 4-0 against Blaze and Frost. Consistency...how does it work?
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On July 29 2013 02:16 Volband wrote: I don't know what's funnier; Karma beasting it up, or the coming karma bans againts Gambit. Just imagine the bans vs Gambit: Aatrox, Udyr, Karma - lol. Maybe dorans blade Annie instead of Aatrox, since he's becoming popular.
Honestly, Karma wasn't anything compared to the beast that Renekton was, especially with the team composition of Alternate. They had a comp to pick off out of position squishy targets, but Kassadin can just rift walk away if hooked and by grabbing a fed croc, it was a free initiate for Gambit. Alternate's comp had pretty much no damage except Graves which was useless against Gambit's comp.
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On July 29 2013 02:17 AsnSensation wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 02:15 Amethyst21 wrote: Some days I think Gambit just flip a coin before a game Heads - Best team in EU Tails - Mindblowingly awful play, builds and decision-making I'm not even worried about Gambit during the regular season anymore, I just tell myself that they try out shit but when it comes to the Playoff events where huge $$$ is on the line I hope the Russian beast shows up.
Also Gambit play a best of 3/5 way better then a bo1. I am not worried at all either they again will be strong when big money is on the line at the finals.
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On July 29 2013 02:18 Slusher wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 02:15 caelym wrote: I wonder if this game would have been different if Kerp went sorc boots and haunting guise. full Tank Malphite at least has it's uses, full tank Vi on the otherhand is pretty much useless.
yeah her utility is just not enough, she has damage and tanky steroids, rather awful cc and sticking ability
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On July 29 2013 02:18 Slusher wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 02:15 caelym wrote: I wonder if this game would have been different if Kerp went sorc boots and haunting guise. full Tank Malphite at least has it's uses, full tank Vi on the otherhand is pretty much useless.
Agreed, don't know how they planned to have enough damage with their comp, Liss and Graves just don't output enough.
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On July 29 2013 02:22 Kontossis wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 02:16 Volband wrote: I don't know what's funnier; Karma beasting it up, or the coming karma bans againts Gambit. Just imagine the bans vs Gambit: Aatrox, Udyr, Karma - lol. Maybe dorans blade Annie instead of Aatrox, since he's becoming popular. Honestly, Karma wasn't anything compared to the beast that Renekton was, especially with the team composition of Alternate. They had a comp to pick off out of position squishy targets, but Kassadin can just rift walk away if hooked and by grabbing a fed croc, it was a free initiate for Gambit. Alternate's comp had pretty much no damage except Graves which was useless against Gambit's comp.
the speed boost on Karma shield was doing a lot of work to get that croc into the middle
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On July 29 2013 02:23 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 02:18 Slusher wrote:On July 29 2013 02:15 caelym wrote: I wonder if this game would have been different if Kerp went sorc boots and haunting guise. full Tank Malphite at least has it's uses, full tank Vi on the otherhand is pretty much useless. Agreed, don't know how they planned to have enough damage with their comp, Liss and Graves just don't output enough. Especially if a Kassadin has 100 more cs than a Liss.
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On July 29 2013 02:22 Affenaffe wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 02:18 Slusher wrote:On July 29 2013 02:15 caelym wrote: I wonder if this game would have been different if Kerp went sorc boots and haunting guise. full Tank Malphite at least has it's uses, full tank Vi on the otherhand is pretty much useless. yeah her utility is just not enough, she has damage and tanky steroids, rather awful cc and sticking ability well Ara plays recklessly and likes to cause disruption and chaos over killing so you see him build full tank on everyone. I'd trust Kerp to dish out more damage even if his champ is less optimized for it.
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On July 29 2013 02:26 Nos- wrote: really enjoying this krepo commentary :o If he doesn't pull a Jatt when he retires, I will NOT be happy.
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Remember when people were worried that Diamond couldn't communicate with the all-star team in English? Yeah....
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it's funny seeing the difference in posture between pro players and sjokz. diamond's doing pretty good, but there was such a massive disparity with soaz yesterday.
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On July 29 2013 02:31 Amethyst21 wrote: Remember when people were worried that Diamond couldn't communicate with the all-star team in English? Yeah.... I also remember EU losing to NA anyway.
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On July 29 2013 02:31 Volband wrote: Nice dress. I concur~
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On July 29 2013 02:26 caelym wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 02:22 Affenaffe wrote:On July 29 2013 02:18 Slusher wrote:On July 29 2013 02:15 caelym wrote: I wonder if this game would have been different if Kerp went sorc boots and haunting guise. full Tank Malphite at least has it's uses, full tank Vi on the otherhand is pretty much useless. yeah her utility is just not enough, she has damage and tanky steroids, rather awful cc and sticking ability well Ara plays recklessly and likes to cause disruption and chaos over killing so you see him build full tank on everyone. I'd trust Kerp to dish out more damage even if his champ is less optimized for it.
but tank vi doesn't cause much chaos and disruption, that's the problem lee sin/j4 ultimates do
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On July 29 2013 02:32 caelym wrote: it's funny seeing the difference in posture between pro players and sjokz. diamond's doing pretty good, but there was such a massive disparity with soaz yesterday.
Yeah for sure, not every one is good on camera or does not like it, and sOAZ for one absolutly hates it.
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On July 29 2013 02:32 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 02:31 Amethyst21 wrote: Remember when people were worried that Diamond couldn't communicate with the all-star team in English? Yeah.... I also remember EU losing to NA anyway.
is that what you're gonna cling onto forever now after all those beatings we gave you guys ever since season 1 ?:D for the greater good we should actually unite to defeat the overlord that is korea.
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On July 29 2013 02:32 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 02:31 Amethyst21 wrote: Remember when people were worried that Diamond couldn't communicate with the all-star team in English? Yeah.... I also remember EU losing to NA anyway.
Would be a big slap in the face if EU managed to win with lacking preperation vs a big bootcamp on NA side. NA deserved to win because they practiced for it, nothing to do with language EU just did not bother to prepare.
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love how they already shot the hypevideos for this week in tenerife
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On July 29 2013 02:30 Gahlo wrote:If he doesn't pull a Jatt when he retires, I will NOT be happy. He's knowledgeable and incredibly well spoken, if he doesn't become a commentator for LCS in the future I will also be very sad.
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19% ... come on LD deserves more then that
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On July 29 2013 02:35 AsnSensation wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 02:32 Gahlo wrote:On July 29 2013 02:31 Amethyst21 wrote: Remember when people were worried that Diamond couldn't communicate with the all-star team in English? Yeah.... I also remember EU losing to NA anyway. is that what you're gonna cling onto forever now after all those beatings we gave you guys ever since season 1 ?:D for the greater good we should actually unite to defeat the overlord that is korea. I'm just sayng Diamond's communication for All-Stars, good or not, didn't really matter.
But I guess it still stings that little brother finally hit his growth spurt and fought back.
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On July 29 2013 02:39 Lysanias wrote:19% ... come on LD deserves more then that  LD is like the Vulcun of EU. No respect from the general audience
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Wouldn't na be the big brother since eu server became a thing later than na?
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On July 29 2013 02:12 Amethyst21 wrote: Voidle definitely has EDward's troll level down pat. Gambit wasn't trying to recruit a support, they were trying to recruit a carry who plays Sona to lane with their support, Genja.
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On July 29 2013 02:41 caelym wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 02:39 Lysanias wrote:19% ... come on LD deserves more then that  LD is like the Vulcun of EU. No respect from the general audience  As soon as Vulcun started getting that respect they started throwing. Hooray for underdogs!
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Where are the notebooks from the EU LCS?
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shushei's spirit in fanatic lives on?
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Puszu sure loves his varus.He is really good at it too.
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Fiddle ban, I guess that's what yolostar has been up to.
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dunno why the casters don't see that this is the biggest TF bait possible, other team has last pick and a Fizz player, TF isn't an ok pick
YES, I love Talon.
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On July 29 2013 02:40 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 02:35 AsnSensation wrote:On July 29 2013 02:32 Gahlo wrote:On July 29 2013 02:31 Amethyst21 wrote: Remember when people were worried that Diamond couldn't communicate with the all-star team in English? Yeah.... I also remember EU losing to NA anyway. is that what you're gonna cling onto forever now after all those beatings we gave you guys ever since season 1 ?:D for the greater good we should actually unite to defeat the overlord that is korea. I'm just sayng Diamond's communication for All-Stars, good or not, didn't really matter. But I guess it still stings that little brother finally hit his growth spurt and fought back. 
Personaly i rather enjoyed it, i hated the fact EU got lazy and did not bother to properly prepare, they deserved a wooping.
As a question EU has the bigger population but do we actualy have more LoL players ?
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WHAT IS THAT CHAMPION.
I MEAN WHO. WHO AM I. WHERE AM I. WHAT.
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How can you hate these pups? :3
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Talon: For when you can't get zed, get his retarded cousin.
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Eu lcs where there is no such thing as bad champions
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Ahah Joe is pissed, can't predict EU picks.
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2 melee ap picks makes Talon a pretty strong pick.
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On July 29 2013 02:46 NeoIllusions wrote: How can you hate these pups? :3
With this Talon pick ... no one. Also nice pics from Fnatic.
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This has been the most fun week for EU LCS. Normally it's pretty boring with one sided games. Even though games haven't been any less one sided it's still more interesting when they are one sided with crazy picks.
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Dat counterpick. But Talon is basically a substitute for Zed in function and role.
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I assume Talon was picked after Kassadin?
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dblade open Talon, what a MAN
talon was last pick for purple (last pick overall) double melee ap gives him 2 strong lane options, basically if he can avoid the adc lane he's in good shape.
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I don't know if I want Talon to win or not. I am ok with the rise of Karma jugnles, but going againts Talons every game... oh god.
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On July 29 2013 02:46 Fusilero wrote: Talon: For when you can't get zed, get his retarded cousin.
his problem is mana/waveclear, not much else right? kind of like fizz
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nice from yellowstar, burnt 2 flashes for his own
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His damage isn't very good unless you get fed early either
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On July 29 2013 02:49 Affenaffe wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 02:46 Fusilero wrote: Talon: For when you can't get zed, get his retarded cousin. his problem is mana/waveclear, not much else right? kind of like fizz
his waveclear is significantly safer than Fizz, he can also use his escape to do damage w/o putting himself in extreme danger.
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Sexpeke didn't ignite ((((
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Peke doing really well. Only problem is he has no tear yet.
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Doesn't seem like much of a lane counter?
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On July 29 2013 02:58 Numy wrote: Doesn't seem like much of a lane counter?
fnatic made the right choices, Xin protected him when it mattered.
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Because it isn't.Dunno why the dogs don't go 2v1 vs a kassadin it just makes no sense to me.
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On July 29 2013 03:00 nafta wrote: Because it isn't.Dunno why the dogs don't go 2v1 vs a kassadin it just makes no sense to me.
Yeah Talon isnt much of a counter. You really need a Ranged AD to put vs kassadin
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Report mid, doesnt follow.
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Back in the day we went gp/ire and such bruisers vs kassa.It makes a lot more sense than a squishy assassin that is countered by silence.
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From the way guys were talking I thought it was going to be like that time Alex fed so hard as TF vs Fizz.
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Fnatic forces Caitlyn/Lulu Flash at level 1, does no attempt at follow that up. Relatively dull game.
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at least myself, and I assume others, were just exited to see a "cool" pick
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dexter's cataclysm was so bad there wtf
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Puszu got caught #BringBackLamia. Mithy too #BringBackFailer.
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Talon gets two kills as I'm about to criticize his lack of kills.
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Not a fan of the bt/ie caitlyn that tabzz loves to do....
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Dunno how that fight went so poorly for LD.On July 29 2013 03:08 nafta wrote: Not a fan of the bt/ie caitlyn that tabzz loves to do.... Could be worse; could be 3 dblade tears.
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Talon didn't do anything.
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duck was zoned out by Cataclysm and Exhaust. zorozero was too far out at the flank.
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Even worse Kennen didnt do aynthing.
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Why not Recall in a safer spot?
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Fnatic blew everything on jarvan. the fight felt a little too forced.
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On July 29 2013 03:16 Slusher wrote: nice pull yellowstar. Yeah I was just feeling sorry for Kennen that eveybody was just out of his ult again, then goodguy Yellowstar pulled him into 3 before it was over. :D
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LD up 5k; but I don't think they know that they're up that much.
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If they click tab and look at items they should be able to tell
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I would like to see a Hexdrinker on Talon.
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Don't think 5k gold means that much. If they do a bad fight like earlier they will still get rolled.
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Nukeduck why? Such a dead Kassadin if you only manned up
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On July 29 2013 03:19 XaCez wrote: I would like to see a Hexdrinker on Talon. If he doesn't get it, I'll be sure to tell him. Hex is a def buy here.
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Talon also went BT over Hydra zzz
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Nice ultimate by cyanide.Won them the fight
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On July 29 2013 03:22 Slusher wrote: Talon also went BT over Hydra zzz Hydra so under appreciated.
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On July 29 2013 03:20 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 03:19 XaCez wrote: I would like to see a Hexdrinker on Talon. If he doesn't get it, I'll be sure to tell him. Hex is a def buy here. You tell him good.
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Feels like the team with Xin has a super low win rate across NA and EU this week.
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On July 29 2013 03:23 Amethyst21 wrote: Feels like the team with Xin has a super low win rate across NA and EU this week.
Also the Xin never seems to do anything early game.
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Xin is just so bad when behind and so good when ahead, there is no inbetween.
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Now comes the main LD problem - finishing the game.
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On July 29 2013 03:19 Numy wrote: Don't think 5k gold means that much. If they do a bad fight like earlier they will still get rolled. That was a product of bad teamfighting; not weak comp. If properly fought, I feel LD's team should be able to win.
as i say that. lol. nukeduck did nothing for a good 20 seconds that fight; waiting for cataclysm to go down, then cleaned up a lot.
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xpeke's escape was hilarious.
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This time soaz didn't ultimate.Fnatic
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LD just needed flash on Kennen to be up to engage there. This comp is pretty sick imo.
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On July 29 2013 03:28 Amethyst21 wrote: LD just needed flash on Kennen to be up to engage there. This comp is pretty sick imo.
except Kennen went homeguard
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Questioned LDs at first, but I really like their team. Nice to see a new pick
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I think Fnatic has lategame here... LD needs to push this soon.
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Lemon Dogs please end soon, I have an XCOM rp video to watch.
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Everytime Dexter goes in I freak out and insult him. Then I remember that they have Kennen, Cait and Talon, FNC can only kill Dexter and one of their 3 other damage dealer before being overwhelmed. Pretty good game from lemondogs.
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The problem of picking gragas as an answer to Kennen's ulti, is more often than naught, if you use your ulti as disengage, you're probably only going to be hitting only kennen with your ulti; which makes your ulti do a lot less damage since only hitting one person.
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Is it just me, or EU supports are generally richer than their NA counterparts?
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TABZZ IS A GODDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
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On July 29 2013 03:34 Volband wrote: Is it just me, or EU supports are generally richer than their NA counterparts? Feels like NA supports are more pink heavy, so gold gets shifted into other areas.
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That's some great play from Dexter and Tabzz. Love it when the AD carry can just say "thanks guys - I got this"
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Yeah, great play by tabz!
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If only fnatic had a useful jungler.If only...
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On July 29 2013 03:35 NeoIllusions wrote: woof Lemonducks pls.
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First inhib at 48 minutes; EU LCS
On July 29 2013 03:35 NeoIllusions wrote: woof quack!
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Really nice play from Tabzz and Dexter, but I feel like Peke and Cyanide could have disengaged safely there.
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On July 29 2013 03:35 wei2coolman wrote:First inhib at 48 minutes; EU LCS quack! Quiet you. This is a pretty damn clean game.
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Soaz with the bronze-plays.
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On July 29 2013 03:36 upperbound wrote: Really nice play from Tabzz and Dexter, but I feel like Peke and Cyanide could have disengaged safely there. Yeah; they could have. But if I was Xpeke; I would think I'd be able to 1v1 Caitlyn there.
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On July 29 2013 03:35 wei2coolman wrote:First inhib at 48 minutes; EU LCS quack!
Constant whining all the time - TL LoL forums.
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It's really nice seeing the Talon pick come to life and be effective.
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On July 29 2013 03:37 caelym wrote: It's really nice seeing the Talon pick come to life and be effective.
always nice seeing "new" picks be succesful, would have been perfect if Diamond won with Karma yesterday ~_~ but today is fine too haha
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LD didn't clear out blue camp???? wut.
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This has been a pretty sick game. Neither team really "throwing". Sure some misplays every now and then but no huge teamwide errors.
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On July 29 2013 03:38 wei2coolman wrote: LD didn't clear out blue camp???? wut. This game probably won't last until another blue anyway.
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Cyanide with the Saint Vicious engage.
On July 29 2013 03:38 upperbound wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 03:38 wei2coolman wrote: LD didn't clear out blue camp???? wut. This game probably won't last until another blue anyway. Still weird choice.
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Cyanide just exploded LOL
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gg! cyanide useless nafta will have a field day with the xin flame !
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On July 29 2013 03:36 Lysanias wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 03:35 wei2coolman wrote:First inhib at 48 minutes; EU LCS On July 29 2013 03:35 NeoIllusions wrote: woof quack! Constant whining all the time - TL LoL forums. Naw, it's just wei2coolman, who's probably the worst poster in TL LoL.
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Lemondogs looked really comfortable there. Tabzz and Mithy look like maybe the best bot lane in EU right now, and Nukeduck looked good on Talon.
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On July 29 2013 03:40 AsnSensation wrote: gg! cyanide useless nafta will have a field day with the xin flame !
I hate xin so much.I can't even describe it.Only thing I hate more is people who can't play lee picking him.
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Damn Tabzz completely took over the game there.
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On July 29 2013 03:41 nafta wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 03:40 AsnSensation wrote: gg! cyanide useless nafta will have a field day with the xin flame ! I hate xin so much.I can't even describe it.Only thing I hate more is people who can't play lee picking him.
you must have loved this weeks NA LCS then lol
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I really like the Talon here, but you really need more than him and the ADC as source of damage or risk losing talon from a focus fire cc chain on him and having no damage to kill anyone after that.
Really solid play by LD, they don't look that confident and made the game last long but atleast they didn't throw.
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On July 29 2013 03:43 Iblis wrote: I really like the Talon here, but you really need more than him and the ADC as source of damage or risk losing talon from a focus fire cc chain on him and having no damage to kill anyone after that.
Really solid play by LD, they don't look that confident and made the game last long but atleast they didn't throw. I was more worried bout LD's lategame; Talon so far ahead though that he scaled into lategame.
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Talon played sorta like a reverse assasin, getting everyone low with his AoE burst and Cait cleaning up.
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Great game between great teams. Really enjoyed this one, passive at the end as it may.
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talon picking up 3 kills in that dragon fight was the start of fnatic's doom. dragon after 20 minutes isn't worth forcing fights over...
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sjokz looks like she hasn't slept in days
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And thus here we come to the match likely to determine who scrapes into the playoff. Hard to believe that just a year ago this decided who would go to the world finals.
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On July 29 2013 03:52 Fusilero wrote: And thus here we come to the match likely to determine who scrapes into the playoff. Hard to believe that just a year ago this decided who would go to the world finals. Well getting to the playoffs is about getting to the world finals, so this is not much different. Going from 3/4 to 6/7 within a year is not really hard to believe.
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N-rated in EG jersey looks so wrong
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On July 29 2013 03:55 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 03:52 Fusilero wrote: And thus here we come to the match likely to determine who scrapes into the playoff. Hard to believe that just a year ago this decided who would go to the world finals. Well getting to the playoffs is about getting to the world finals, so this is not much different. Going from 3/4 to 6/7 within a year is not really hard to believe.
Well EG at one stage were going toe to toe with Frost for OGN finals. Guess it's more Koreas crazy growth than anything else.
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On July 29 2013 04:00 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 03:55 Redox wrote:On July 29 2013 03:52 Fusilero wrote: And thus here we come to the match likely to determine who scrapes into the playoff. Hard to believe that just a year ago this decided who would go to the world finals. Well getting to the playoffs is about getting to the world finals, so this is not much different. Going from 3/4 to 6/7 within a year is not really hard to believe. Well EG at one stage were going toe to toe with Frost for OGN finals. Guess it's more Koreas crazy growth than anything else.
That's cuz the American and European teams in while playing when they win stuff they usually go partying and stuff they go see a lot of movies go to entertainment parks a lot. Do a lot of other stuff together. While Koreans usually only practice and eat together, they have a real boot camp going on. The American and European teams don't.
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On July 29 2013 04:00 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 03:55 Redox wrote:On July 29 2013 03:52 Fusilero wrote: And thus here we come to the match likely to determine who scrapes into the playoff. Hard to believe that just a year ago this decided who would go to the world finals. Well getting to the playoffs is about getting to the world finals, so this is not much different. Going from 3/4 to 6/7 within a year is not really hard to believe. Well EG at one stage were going toe to toe with Frost for OGN finals. Guess it's more Koreas crazy growth than anything else. Also growth in NA and EU though. If the old teams dont improve enough, they slowly get pushed to the bottom. If all the old teams stayed at the top, it would be an indication of lacking growth.
Korea grew much more of course.
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I am curious if EG leaves TF open. Might be a good idea.
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Yellowpete has 3 headphones to counteract possible communication problems.
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Ocelote's TF is a coinflip, he's either gonna carry or feed beyond recognition.
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Wickd with his Malphite. I don't really like that pick.
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On July 29 2013 04:10 Fusilero wrote: Ocelote's TF is a coinflip, he's either gonna carry or feed beyond recognition.
No way is his TF winrate at 50%
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On July 29 2013 04:11 Lysanias wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 04:10 Fusilero wrote: Ocelote's TF is a coinflip, he's either gonna carry or feed beyond recognition. No way is his TF winrate at 50% A lopsided coinflip.
Oh god not udyr maybe this will be the 1/1000000 matches where udyr isn't useless.
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On July 29 2013 04:08 Antyee wrote: Yellowpete has 3 headphones to counteract possible communication problems.
All eg does, Astro sponsorship
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Ooh froggen finally pulling out the Ahri. Used to be his favorite champion besides Anivia.
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On July 29 2013 04:12 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 04:11 Lysanias wrote:On July 29 2013 04:10 Fusilero wrote: Ocelote's TF is a coinflip, he's either gonna carry or feed beyond recognition. No way is his TF winrate at 50% A lopsided coinflip. Oh god not udyr maybe this will be the 1/1000000 matches where udyr isn't useless.
Hehe, well atleast we get to hear about the the skin wich is way overpriced
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Hopefully we see the skin. I actually haven't had a single game where someone has picked Udyr. Let alone have that skin
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On July 29 2013 04:15 Numy wrote: Hopefully we see the skin. I actually haven't had a single game where someone has picked Udyr. Let alone have that skin
You lucky bastard
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On July 29 2013 04:14 Lysanias wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 04:12 Fusilero wrote:On July 29 2013 04:11 Lysanias wrote:On July 29 2013 04:10 Fusilero wrote: Ocelote's TF is a coinflip, he's either gonna carry or feed beyond recognition. No way is his TF winrate at 50% A lopsided coinflip. Oh god not udyr maybe this will be the 1/1000000 matches where udyr isn't useless. Hehe, well atleast we get to hear about the the skin wich is way overpriced
Dorans blade+ utility masteries, interesting
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On July 29 2013 04:15 nafta wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 04:15 Numy wrote: Hopefully we see the skin. I actually haven't had a single game where someone has picked Udyr. Let alone have that skin You lucky bastard I've seen the corpse that skin plenty of times. Normally on my team -_-
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On July 29 2013 04:16 misirlou wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 04:14 Lysanias wrote:On July 29 2013 04:12 Fusilero wrote:On July 29 2013 04:11 Lysanias wrote:On July 29 2013 04:10 Fusilero wrote: Ocelote's TF is a coinflip, he's either gonna carry or feed beyond recognition. No way is his TF winrate at 50% A lopsided coinflip. Oh god not udyr maybe this will be the 1/1000000 matches where udyr isn't useless. Hehe, well atleast we get to hear about the the skin wich is way overpriced Dorans blade+ utility masteries, interesting
That's pretty standard Udyr.
edit: I only really play ranked games. Maybe that's why?
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Aaah I love LemonDogs. They actually play some odd champions, which for me makes games 50% more interesting just for that. Apart from that, their games are exiting, fun nailbiters. Love em!
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On July 29 2013 04:17 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 04:16 misirlou wrote:On July 29 2013 04:14 Lysanias wrote:On July 29 2013 04:12 Fusilero wrote:On July 29 2013 04:11 Lysanias wrote:On July 29 2013 04:10 Fusilero wrote: Ocelote's TF is a coinflip, he's either gonna carry or feed beyond recognition. No way is his TF winrate at 50% A lopsided coinflip. Oh god not udyr maybe this will be the 1/1000000 matches where udyr isn't useless. Hehe, well atleast we get to hear about the the skin wich is way overpriced Dorans blade+ utility masteries, interesting That's pretty standard Udyr. edit: I only really play ranked games. Maybe that's why?
I haven't played a normal game in months.
You even luckier bastard.
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I dont see udyr all that much maybe thats why im surprised. I still believe phoenix is the way to go xD
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lmao wickd too greedy with his summoners
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Holy shit, an EG match where the jungler didn't feed FB.
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On July 29 2013 04:20 AsnSensation wrote: lmao wickd too greedy with his summoners
He didn't have flash it came up after he died
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On July 29 2013 04:19 misirlou wrote: I dont see udyr all that much maybe thats why im surprised. I still believe phoenix is the way to go xD
Even with phoenix going utility I think is standard. The tiger udyr with dorans is something like 14/3/13. Huge early game burst damage. Then if you building pure tank you can put points in E instead of W for MS.
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Pete just can't hit a single piltover o0
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I think the thing that really annoys me about wickd's malphite is how often he does these "oh fuck it I'mma initiate" ults.
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Yeah pretty sure this was the last game of Shacker. Sadly my critical opinion is confirmed even more than I expected.
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Omg, yellowpete just walks into the bubbles.
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Holy shit hyrqbot/ocelote is it so hard to give blue. How on earth did yolopete just kill candy 1v1.
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Froggen has his carry pants on today. Ocelote just outmatched, really.
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How is Ocelote still on SK, after sooo many line up changes last season they sure are slow changing him
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On July 29 2013 04:33 Amethyst21 wrote: Froggen has his carry pants on today. Ocelote just outmatched, really.
In my opinion Ocelote is one the worst mids in Europe.
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On July 29 2013 04:34 misirlou wrote: How is Ocelote still on SK, after sooo many line up changes last season they sure are slow changing him Look at the number of likes on his facebook page for the answer.
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Yellowpete outclassing CandyPanda. Didnt think I would see the day. :>
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On July 29 2013 04:35 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 04:34 misirlou wrote: How is Ocelote still on SK, after sooo many line up changes last season they sure are slow changing him Look at the number of likes on his facebook page for the answer.
Hotshot stepped down. Bigfat also had lots of fans at the time he left clg. Chaox was a pillar in TSM. Snoopeh is still team captain of EG
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The balls move on froggen o_O
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That was the randomest of random baron attempts.
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On July 29 2013 04:39 nafta wrote: That was the randomest of random baron attempts. I heard team dignitas taught them that timing.
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On July 29 2013 04:39 nafta wrote: That was the randomest of random baron attempts. Being random is kind of the point if you want to sneak it.
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this is the dumbest looking baron fight
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See you in the relegation round SK!
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On July 29 2013 04:50 Nos- wrote: this is the dumbest looking baron fight Kev1n gives zero fucks about baron. For the second season in a row in one of the most important matches, candy plays trash.
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On July 29 2013 04:51 Fusilero wrote:Kev1n gives zero fucks about baron. Well enough to slice out at some point. Coukd not stay there forever with his sunfire aggroing. that was actually pretty funny. :D
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Pete going godlike ... no idea what i am seeing.
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Yay EG! Still a lot to improve on but I like what I'm seeing.
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On July 29 2013 04:54 Lysanias wrote: Pete going godlike ... no idea what i am seeing. Nrated is actually coach park's LoL smurf.
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That was still a pretty great game. Pete carrying EG isn't something I really expected to see 
Not taking anything away from Froggen, he dominated the early to midgame. If he had followed up on Wicked instead of Shaker under the middle inner turret the game would have been over then.
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On July 29 2013 04:55 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 04:54 Lysanias wrote: Pete going godlike ... no idea what i am seeing. Nrated is actually coach park's LoL smurf.
Had they not stumbled and played like piss yesterday i would have actualy believed it.
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Surprised some recommend this, normally I am the one to defend EG or SK games. :D
But it was really obvious that both teams were scared. The problem is, they are in a situation where they can only lose and not really win. Because all they want is to get out of bottom 2, which even if achieved would not be that great. One can also see it in the post game reactions, it is mainly relief to not have lost, instead of joy over winning.
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Shacker:jarvan passive is magic damage
Not gonna lie sometimes it surprises me the lack of some common knowledge.
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Sjokz with the shots fired. Keep your head down Saint!
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I still think Shacker wont play next week.
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On July 29 2013 04:59 Redox wrote: I still think Shacker wont play next week. Depends on how badly Snoopy wants to retire
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On July 29 2013 05:04 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 04:59 Redox wrote: I still think Shacker wont play next week. Depends on how badly Snoopy wants to retire Retire?! wat
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On July 29 2013 05:04 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 04:59 Redox wrote: I still think Shacker wont play next week. Depends on how badly Snoopy wants to retire While EG is doing team practise, and outside of that, he is chaining soloq games like mad. Might be 12 hours a day. And he never did that before in that fashion. Pretty sure he still plans to play a role this season. Beyond that maybe not.
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On July 29 2013 05:06 Slangen wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 05:04 Gorsameth wrote:On July 29 2013 04:59 Redox wrote: I still think Shacker wont play next week. Depends on how badly Snoopy wants to retire Retire?! wat
Why would Snoopy step down and part time jungle if not because he wants to spend less time on the game and allow the team to prepare for him retiring?
If Snoopy really doesnt wanne play anymore they keep Shacker until they find someone who is better and if Snoopy is willing to play/practice full time they can get rid of Shacker.
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On July 29 2013 05:12 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 05:06 Slangen wrote:On July 29 2013 05:04 Gorsameth wrote:On July 29 2013 04:59 Redox wrote: I still think Shacker wont play next week. Depends on how badly Snoopy wants to retire Retire?! wat Why would Snoopy step down and part time jungle if not because he wants to spend less time on the game and allow the team to prepare for him retiring? If Snoopy really doesnt wanne play anymore they keep Shacker until they find someone who is better and if Snoopy is willing to play/practice full time they can get rid of Shacker. Because they are desperate for victories, right now. And he was indeed not doing well. If they dont make top 6, his future plans for this season dont matter anyway. As I said before, he plays as much as I have never seen from him.
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On July 29 2013 05:14 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 05:12 Gorsameth wrote:On July 29 2013 05:06 Slangen wrote:On July 29 2013 05:04 Gorsameth wrote:On July 29 2013 04:59 Redox wrote: I still think Shacker wont play next week. Depends on how badly Snoopy wants to retire Retire?! wat Why would Snoopy step down and part time jungle if not because he wants to spend less time on the game and allow the team to prepare for him retiring? If Snoopy really doesnt wanne play anymore they keep Shacker until they find someone who is better and if Snoopy is willing to play/practice full time they can get rid of Shacker. Because they are desperate for victories, right now. And he was indeed not doing well. If they dont make top 6, his future plans for this season dont matter anyway. As I said before, he plays as much as I have never seen from him.
Guess I just dont get EG then I would hardly call Snoopy the big fault with there team but thats another discussion.
Anyway NiP Aatrox. what are the odds he will go full tank again and be utterly useless?
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rofl Jarvan cockblocked fiddle's ult so hard ahahah
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czaru with the ahri plays
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NiP playing horrible.
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I really hate the gragas pick
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NiP with the full derp. Back to SC2 Redbull Finals
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That was a brutal EQ by J4. NIP just melted there
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Not sold on this jungle Aatrox
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In true NiP style, they fall behind early and then they just sit around and fall further and further behind hoping for a massive throw late game... sigh
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I really wish J4s would cancel their cataclysm so other people can come in, fiddle's ult hit 0 people cause of this J4 zzz
edit: well guess it doesn't really matter
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On July 29 2013 05:46 Nos- wrote: I really wish J4s would cancel their cataclysm so other people can come in, fiddle's ult hit 0 people cause of this J4 zzz
edit: well guess it doesn't really matter Dont hate, hes helping.
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I really dont understand why you would ever pick Aatrox when your going for a full tank jungeler. He needs to build damage. Just select any tank jungeler ><
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Wait why is this game still going?Mym are really talented at making games super boring when they have a lead....
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Poll: Recommend MYM vs NiP Summer Week 7?No (14) 88% Yes (1) 6% If you have time (1) 6% 16 total votes Your vote: Recommend MYM vs NiP Summer Week 7? (Vote): Yes (Vote): No (Vote): If you have time
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This is week 7 Kubon .. why would you go back that way after shaking hands -_-
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NiP is not through yet. Only 2 wins ahead of the bottom teams.
Btw Twitch chat is getting at me, I laughed at "RiP in peace NiP in pyjamas". :<
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On July 29 2013 05:54 Gorsameth wrote: I really dont understand why you would ever pick Aatrox when your going for a full tank jungeler. He needs to build damage. Just select any tank jungeler ><
It is supposed to be a replacement for the banned Zac. Tanky, revive and some CC with initiation. I agree that it does not completely fill the shoes of Zac though.
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On July 29 2013 06:04 Prog wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 05:54 Gorsameth wrote: I really dont understand why you would ever pick Aatrox when your going for a full tank jungeler. He needs to build damage. Just select any tank jungeler >< It is supposed to be a replacement for the banned Zac. Tanky, revive and some CC with initiation. I agree that it does not completely fill the shoes of Zac though.
90% of Zac's CC/initiate comes from his ult tho while Aatrox only has a jump and an unreliable slow (its travel speed is to slow). Its imo a terrible substitute.
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Aatrox's Q is no Elastic Slingshot.
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In EU some teams really need to change from their comfort champions and see evry match as individual. So many times they keep piking their comfort champions.... like the aatrox etc.
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On July 29 2013 06:22 ExoFun wrote: In EU some teams really need to change from their comfort champions and see evry match as individual. So many times they keep piking their comfort champions.... like the aatrox etc. Has aatrox even been out long enough to be a comfort pick
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On July 29 2013 06:16 Nitan wrote: Aatrox's Q is no Elastic Slingshot. Yeah its an Unstoppable Force.
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On July 29 2013 06:22 ExoFun wrote: In EU some teams really need to change from their comfort champions and see evry match as individual. So many times they keep piking their comfort champions.... like the aatrox etc. Was contemplating for a moment if that was sarcasm given that picks have been more diverging from the norm than any other week.
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On July 29 2013 06:31 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 06:22 ExoFun wrote: In EU some teams really need to change from their comfort champions and see evry match as individual. So many times they keep piking their comfort champions.... like the aatrox etc. Was contemplating for a moment if that was sarcasm given that picks have been more diverging from the norm than any other week. No but i see a similar thing happen in NA. "Dont change winning teamcomp" and that is how curse "lost" and now Nip is doing it in the jungle. Its so much easier to counter teams who are doing this and the top teams got such a diverse champion pool that it doesnt happen or let them pick the "op" champs (wink wink ocelote).
The comment was not really focused on the top teams in LCS, but the teams that are struggling now.
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Looking at the recommended games.
Pretty disappointed by the Alternate vs Fnatic game. Too tired to appreciate what the Karma pick brought to them (especially the "how did she fare in the jungle"), but the game was basically Alternate with a pick comp throwing a teamfight and then Gambit's better scaling and teamfighting letting them easily roll every single subsequent teamfight thanks to the momentum, till the game was finished. Rather anti-climactic in how it occurred.
LD vs Fnatic became much more interesting when I realised that the game wasn't about the picks, but the way LD "buried" themselves into their need to get good flanks or force Fnatic with their backs against a wall to pick good fights, and how the teams were trying to maneuver around this.
SK vs EG was uninteresting, not sure why it was recommended. :/ Several huge blunders by Candypanda and SK were never in a position to contest anything.
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On July 29 2013 09:44 Alaric wrote: Looking at the recommended games.
Pretty disappointed by the Alternate vs Fnatic game. Too tired to appreciate what the Karma pick brought to them (especially the "how did she fare in the jungle"), but the game was basically Alternate with a pick comp throwing a teamfight and then Gambit's better scaling and teamfighting letting them easily roll every single subsequent teamfight thanks to the momentum, till the game was finished. Rather anti-climactic in how it occurred.
LD vs Fnatic became much more interesting when I realised that the game wasn't about the picks, but the way LD "buried" themselves into their need to get good flanks or force Fnatic with their backs against a wall to pick good fights, and how the teams were trying to maneuver around this.
SK vs EG was uninteresting, not sure why it was recommended. :/ Several huge blunders by Candypanda and SK were never in a position to contest anything.
People are to much supporter of there fav team then instead of actualy looking at the game and what to think of it.
My team lost ! So thats a big. Vote NO. My team won ! They are gods. Vote YES. My team didn't play ! /care. Vote if you have time.
That's about the 3 options i keep on seeing, when a populair team wins or loses.
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