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upperbound
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2300 Posts
July 27 2013 17:28 GMT
#101
On July 28 2013 02:26 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 02:25 upperbound wrote:
On July 28 2013 02:23 Lysanias wrote:
Pfff what a horrible game, between 2 teams to scared to make calls.

Honestly right now, I feel like EU is showing better mechanical skill than NA, but teams looking like they have no idea what they're doing strategically. Games like this get to 50 minutes, one team throws, and there's a winner. Honestly that's why the standings are so close -- it's just so random what happens when games get close to 1 hour.

Most games have been stomps, not like this one at all.

I feel like it's been both. Yes, there have been a lot of stomps where the gold disparity makes it so that one team can do anything. But if a game is close at 20:00, generally the game is not much closer to being over at 40:00, and the game is still close. Honestly, aTn is doing well because Forellenlord is ballsy enough to go and make plays in the midgame. I can't remember the last time I saw a game where one team took a decisive strategic advantage in the midgame in an otherwise close game.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
July 27 2013 17:29 GMT
#102
Wait did EG lose?
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 27 2013 17:29 GMT
#103
On July 28 2013 02:24 AsnSensation wrote:
I've decided to paddle back on the blind EG and SK hate but frankly I have no idea why(e:how) they just don't steamroll NiP with this comp and a 6 item Kassadin. Shacker so useless 4v6 dude


Freeze with banshees and perfect positioning meant that Wickd couldn't dive on him, Ryze with items destroying EG.
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Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
July 27 2013 17:30 GMT
#104
On July 28 2013 02:29 Numy wrote:
Wait did EG lose?


with a 6 item kassadin nearing 500 farm ... with zero deaths ... o0
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-27 17:31:24
July 27 2013 17:30 GMT
#105
On July 28 2013 02:29 Numy wrote:
Wait did EG lose?

They went to Baron, got Destiny'd, went B and then NiP started Baron, and the EG members came in one at a time under Baron, 3 died, then NiP pushed mid and won before the EG guys respawned.
HOLY CHECK!
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
July 27 2013 17:31 GMT
#106
Man my stream died so I came back upstairs. I thought EG were going to do it easily wtf.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
July 27 2013 17:32 GMT
#107
If the next EG game is similar I think it is over for Shacker. Not saying he did really bad, but he has to play well to keep Snoopeh away.
Off-season = best season
partydude89
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
1850 Posts
July 27 2013 17:32 GMT
#108
who is the caster talking to the player? i'm new to league.
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upperbound
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2300 Posts
July 27 2013 17:33 GMT
#109
On July 28 2013 02:32 partydude89 wrote:
who is the caster talking to the player? i'm new to league.

It's Mithy, Lemondogs' support.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
July 27 2013 17:34 GMT
#110
On July 28 2013 02:33 upperbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 02:32 partydude89 wrote:
who is the caster talking to the player? i'm new to league.

It's Mithy, Lemondogs' support.


I think he means who the caster is ^^

A: Jason Kaplan, esl caster
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
July 27 2013 17:34 GMT
#111
On July 28 2013 02:33 upperbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 02:32 partydude89 wrote:
who is the caster talking to the player? i'm new to league.

It's Mithy, Lemondogs' support.

The caster is Jason Kaplan though.
Off-season = best season
partydude89
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
1850 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-27 17:35:02
July 27 2013 17:34 GMT
#112

thanks guys. sorry for my noobiness.
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upperbound
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2300 Posts
July 27 2013 17:35 GMT
#113
Oh, I suck at reading. GG.
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
July 27 2013 17:37 GMT
#114
I fell asleep to see that EG lost. How the ...
They had good initation with Malph + Shacker, but the damage was never following.
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Kontossis
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada256 Posts
July 27 2013 17:40 GMT
#115
I really feel like quite a few of the teams, especially in EU LCS just hesitate too much to dive. When there's someone with 200+ armor and 3000+ health, a early dive isn't that risky when:
1. You have a decent lead
2. Waves are pushed preventing any objectives being taken supposing it's a evenish team fight
3. People are likely to be split to defend against multiple pushed waves

I feel like C9 is one of the only teams in the LCS that does diving properly in this sense and it allows them to finish games off without any chance of one dumb team fight or positioning error in late game deciding the game.
Nom nom nom...
TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
July 27 2013 17:43 GMT
#116
On July 28 2013 02:37 -Zoda- wrote:
I fell asleep to see that EG lost. How the ...
They had good initation with Malph + Shacker, but the damage was never following.


I don't think followup damage was a problem, they did win basically every teamfight after all, they just instantly backed every time they won.
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-27 17:47:38
July 27 2013 17:45 GMT
#117
On July 28 2013 02:40 Kontossis wrote:
I really feel like quite a few of the teams, especially in EU LCS just hesitate too much to dive. When there's someone with 200+ armor and 3000+ health, a early dive isn't that risky when:
1. You have a decent lead
2. Waves are pushed preventing any objectives being taken supposing it's a evenish team fight
3. People are likely to be split to defend against multiple pushed waves

I feel like C9 is one of the only teams in the LCS that does diving properly in this sense and it allows them to finish games off without any chance of one dumb team fight or positioning error in late game deciding the game.

Yeah pressure is just extremely high, so teams are scared to lose. Especially true for a team like EG that is still lacking confidence. Imo confidence is one of the most important factors in LoL.
Off-season = best season
TitusVI
Profile Joined April 2013
Germany8319 Posts
July 27 2013 17:48 GMT
#118
Whoever wins this will be first place.
Science>Mechanics
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21667 Posts
July 27 2013 17:48 GMT
#119
Alex Karma. god i hope he does well :D
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
July 27 2013 17:48 GMT
#120
OMFG karma
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