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Prog
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom1470 Posts
July 27 2013 18:34 GMT
#261
On July 28 2013 03:32 Numy wrote:
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On July 28 2013 03:31 Prog wrote:
I don't understand why you all think the BT on Ashe is so bad. His whole plan is to spam volley while kiting, and volley scales with ad, but not with crit. It does make sense with this kite comp in my opinion.


Who thinks BT is bad? The tear is questionable and he seems to do that on every AD he plays. Spamming volley is meaningless when your team needs you to actually do damage.


Just check the last page for posts like "BT Ashe. Worse than karma jungle".

Tear is primarily for mana i think. You can't spam volley too long without a mana item.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
July 27 2013 18:35 GMT
#262
People dislike it because he just builds without thinking about damage and only utility.Spamming volley is fine if you have another character on your team who does physical damage but when you don't enemy team just gets mr and you auto lose.This works on varus with bt/lw because he has very high base damage and his w gives him a lot of damage as well.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
July 27 2013 18:36 GMT
#263
This Soaz, always looks like he is disgusted by everything around him. So French. :D
Off-season = best season
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
July 27 2013 18:36 GMT
#264
On July 28 2013 03:35 nafta wrote:
People dislike it because he just builds without thinking about damage and only utility.Spamming volley is fine if you have another character on your team who does physical damage but when you don't enemy team just gets mr and you auto lose.This works on varus with bt/lw because he has very high base damage and his w gives him a lot of damage as well.


I dislike it mainly for he even builds it if he's far behind his oposition, it just makes no sense to punish yourself and your team even more with 0 damage early and mid game.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-27 18:39:00
July 27 2013 18:38 GMT
#265
On July 28 2013 03:35 nafta wrote:
People dislike it because he just builds without thinking about damage and only utility.Spamming volley is fine if you have another character on your team who does physical damage but when you don't enemy team just gets mr and you auto lose.This works on varus with bt/lw because he has very high base damage and his w gives him a lot of damage as well.

I don't even get why he does this build utility wise, he gets less farm than sneakycastro's ashe yet is always 40 times less useful than castro is for C9.
Even for volley spamming it's not that much better than standard.
Glorious SEA doto
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6421 Posts
July 27 2013 18:39 GMT
#266
Fnatic picked really smart vs Gambit's kite comp. Lissandra, Blitz, and Shen forces hard engages that's hard to get out off. Aatrox then slows everyone down once the fight starts.
bnet: caelym#1470 | Twitter: @caelym
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-27 18:41:59
July 27 2013 18:41 GMT
#267
If he wants really to volley spam he needs CDR boots, Bruta, maybe SotL to do extra damage when poking and more CDR, etc... Or just pick Varus.
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
Don_Julio
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
2220 Posts
July 27 2013 18:43 GMT
#268
Where is Phreak btw?
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
July 27 2013 18:46 GMT
#269
On July 28 2013 03:41 -Zoda- wrote:
If he wants really to volley spam he needs CDR boots, Bruta, maybe SotL to do extra damage when poking and more CDR, etc... Or just pick Varus.


Genja's problem is he's stuck in his way's. And now Gambit is paying for it.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
July 27 2013 18:50 GMT
#270
Now corki.Eu lcs pls stahp
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
July 27 2013 18:50 GMT
#271
Aatrox and Karma jungle
Corki and Vi


This day is crazy.
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
July 27 2013 18:50 GMT
#272
Maybe someone will Teemo today.
HOLY CHECK!
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
July 27 2013 18:51 GMT
#273
These drafts omfg. Vi and Fizz
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
July 27 2013 18:51 GMT
#274
At least the picks are really cool today.
Off-season = best season
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
July 27 2013 18:51 GMT
#275
EU champion pool sure is different from NA
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
BobMcJohnson
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
France2916 Posts
July 27 2013 18:51 GMT
#276
Vi and Fizz yay :D
Romanes eunt domus
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35147 Posts
July 27 2013 18:55 GMT
#277
Alternate picked Vi.
I like Vi.
Therefore, I like Alternate.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
July 27 2013 18:57 GMT
#278
Boss move by Kerp.
Off-season = best season
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-27 18:58:53
July 27 2013 18:58 GMT
#279
Araneae not even trying to dodge the Qs though... why
He almost always gives away his double buffs on the first gonk
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
July 27 2013 19:00 GMT
#280
Kha6 evolution on ulti first.Dem missclicks.
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