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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 11 2013 20:52 GMT
#181
On July 12 2013 05:51 Alaric wrote:
Ahaha, pros trying to hype Aatrox. Guess they weren't allowed to say if they don't like him.

dat commercial.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
July 11 2013 20:55 GMT
#182
Listening to Mancloud it's even weirder to me how TSM approached that. They didn't even try to think about how they might get counter-picked, or respond to Vulcun's picks. It was xin-annie-zilean from the start, no matter what Vulcun did.

I get that there was an idea behind the whole comp, but it really feels like they gave themselves at best a 50/50 chance to win this game, which really isn't what you want to do when you need to pick up some wins.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
July 11 2013 20:56 GMT
#183
I feel like mancloud is trying really hard to not say "Oh god MVP ozone/SKT/Blaze are going to take us behind the shed and make us cry"
Glorious SEA doto
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
July 11 2013 20:57 GMT
#184
I think it's interesting that pretty much every NA team has went from full time scrimming to a little scrimming + a lot of replay analysis. I wonder how the breakdown looks like in KR. I imagine they have more time to scrim because a lot of their teams have multiple coaches and analysts.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
July 11 2013 20:57 GMT
#185
IDK why you pick Zin after seeing Cait. If Zuna picks Kog...then sure. But either Cait or Ez kind makes it unworkable.
Freeeeeeedom
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
July 11 2013 20:57 GMT
#186
On July 12 2013 05:57 Woony wrote:
I think it's interesting that pretty much every NA team has went from full time scrimming to a little scrimming + a lot of replay analysis. I wonder how the breakdown looks like in KR. I imagine they have more time to scrim because a lot of their teams have multiple coaches and analysts.

Ozone does roughly the same amount of scrimming as NA teams.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
July 11 2013 20:58 GMT
#187
There's really no point of going for some super cheese if the opponent can just not do anything special and crush it.
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
July 11 2013 20:58 GMT
#188
On July 12 2013 05:55 Swords wrote:
Listening to Mancloud it's even weirder to me how TSM approached that. They didn't even try to think about how they might get counter-picked, or respond to Vulcun's picks. It was xin-annie-zilean from the start, no matter what Vulcun did.

I get that there was an idea behind the whole comp, but it really feels like they gave themselves at best a 50/50 chance to win this game, which really isn't what you want to do when you need to pick up some wins.


It just shows you again that many NA teams has no idea how to pick/ban. TSM was, and still sometimes is, guilty of this. They went in with a set strat, which is rare for them to begin with, and then got obliterated when the other team counterpicked them.
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
July 11 2013 20:58 GMT
#189
Which champions is Meteos famous for? Zac?
TL+ Member
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-11 20:59:23
July 11 2013 20:58 GMT
#190
On July 12 2013 05:57 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 05:57 Woony wrote:
I think it's interesting that pretty much every NA team has went from full time scrimming to a little scrimming + a lot of replay analysis. I wonder how the breakdown looks like in KR. I imagine they have more time to scrim because a lot of their teams have multiple coaches and analysts.

Ozone does roughly the same amount of scrimming as NA teams.

I imagine they have a better infrastructure of coaches and analysts is a real help to let them focus on scrimming more. Like most have coaches but no dedicated analysts (Some exceptions such as C9 or monte's mystery team)

On July 12 2013 05:58 Letmelose wrote:
Which champions is Meteos famous for? Zac?

Zac and elise imo
Glorious SEA doto
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
July 11 2013 20:59 GMT
#191
On July 12 2013 05:57 Woony wrote:
I think it's interesting that pretty much every NA team has went from full time scrimming to a little scrimming + a lot of replay analysis. I wonder how the breakdown looks like in KR. I imagine they have more time to scrim because a lot of their teams have multiple coaches and analysts.

Korea loves LOVES solo queue as a part of their training
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-11 21:00:22
July 11 2013 20:59 GMT
#192
I get zilian mid and melee adc where does Annie fit in? Xin zhaos kit is going to get more out of tidecaller's blessing than annie stun.

I guess it was because Nami was not available s1 hue
Carrilord has arrived.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 11 2013 20:59 GMT
#193
On July 12 2013 05:58 Letmelose wrote:
Which champions is Meteos famous for? Zac?

Zac; and Nasus.
liftlift > tsm
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 11 2013 20:59 GMT
#194
On July 12 2013 05:58 Letmelose wrote:
Which champions is Meteos famous for? Zac?

Zac and Elise is what he's known for.
In normals/practice, he's good with Nasus, Lee, and Noc.
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Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
July 11 2013 21:00 GMT
#195
On July 12 2013 05:57 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 05:57 Woony wrote:
I think it's interesting that pretty much every NA team has went from full time scrimming to a little scrimming + a lot of replay analysis. I wonder how the breakdown looks like in KR. I imagine they have more time to scrim because a lot of their teams have multiple coaches and analysts.

Ozone does roughly the same amount of scrimming as NA teams.


Did you get from the TL interview or where else? I'm curious. I mean koreans are known to grind out games in every game they play but I think it'd be interesting if they also go for the low-scrim route.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
July 11 2013 21:00 GMT
#196
On July 12 2013 05:58 Letmelose wrote:
Which champions is Meteos famous for? Zac?

Junglers.

More seriously : Zac, Nasus, Elise... He'll find a way.
The legend of Darien lives on
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
July 11 2013 21:01 GMT
#197
On July 12 2013 05:59 nojitosunrise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 05:57 Woony wrote:
I think it's interesting that pretty much every NA team has went from full time scrimming to a little scrimming + a lot of replay analysis. I wonder how the breakdown looks like in KR. I imagine they have more time to scrim because a lot of their teams have multiple coaches and analysts.

Korea loves LOVES solo queue as a part of their training


I imagine korean solo queue is great for mechanics. Maybe Rainman was right after all? :p
Flakes
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States3125 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-11 21:02:30
July 11 2013 21:01 GMT
#198
On July 12 2013 05:59 Slusher wrote:
I get zilian mid and melee adc where does Annie fit in? Xin zhaos kit is going to get more out of tidecaller's blessing than annie stun.

I guess it was because Nami was not available s1 hue

I imagine it was a combination of the early first blood strat (which failed), and annie being able to pick up lasthits that Xin couldn't reach

But ya there's probably better champs for that if you aren't going for the S1 throwback
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
July 11 2013 21:01 GMT
#199
Why ban Elise when Jayce is also open???
Ban something else so you can get one or the other ~_~
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
July 11 2013 21:02 GMT
#200
On July 12 2013 06:01 Woony wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 05:59 nojitosunrise wrote:
On July 12 2013 05:57 Woony wrote:
I think it's interesting that pretty much every NA team has went from full time scrimming to a little scrimming + a lot of replay analysis. I wonder how the breakdown looks like in KR. I imagine they have more time to scrim because a lot of their teams have multiple coaches and analysts.

Korea loves LOVES solo queue as a part of their training


I imagine korean solo queue is great for mechanics. Maybe Rainman was right after all? :p

It's interesting, fnatic got angry at nrated over not enough solo queue, rainman as you said and lemonation said in his AMA that C9 values their solo queue practice highly. While teams like CLG do it for streams and dig trolls solo queue.
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