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Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
August 09 2013 13:07 GMT
#3761
On August 09 2013 22:00 glzElectromaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 21:58 Letmelose wrote:
NoFe was far weaker than I expected, which makes me wonder how many junglers there are who are capable of exposing CloudTemplar (far fewer than I imagined). His oncoming match-up versus KaKAO will tell how far he has come along.


KaKAO, Dandy, and Bengi can match him. Dunno about anyone else.

CT weakness is not that crucial because the Frost lanes are way stronger than last season. So he is less needed
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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
August 09 2013 13:17 GMT
#3762
I just want Frost at Worlds again so badly.
lefty
Profile Joined November 2003
United States1896 Posts
August 09 2013 13:18 GMT
#3763
Oh welp, Frost again prove why they're currently the most popular team in Korean e-sports. Another semi finals in most competitive LoL tournament in the world. I still can't see them winning the whole thing. However, say what you will about them but I have to say I really admire Cloud Templar, Rapidstar and Madlife from being there from the start as first generation pros and still being relevant while most of their peers have failed to do so.
Thinasy
Profile Joined March 2011
2856 Posts
August 09 2013 15:19 GMT
#3764
On August 09 2013 22:18 lefty wrote:
Oh welp, Frost again prove why they're currently the most popular team in Korean e-sports. Another semi finals in most competitive LoL tournament in the world. I still can't see them winning the whole thing. However, say what you will about them but I have to say I really admire Cloud Templar, Rapidstar and Madlife from being there from the start as first generation pros and still being relevant while most of their peers have failed to do so.


The only threat I see atm is Ozone
Jaedong & Faker
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
August 09 2013 15:36 GMT
#3765
Well if the rest of the RO8 plays out as most people would expect, which would probably be KT B, CJ Frost, SKT and MVP Ozone, then I have no idea anymore who will win these matchups. It will be completely insane either way...

I'm really excited to see how SKT will play. They have 100% winrate so far in the tournament but you can probably argue that they had by far the easiest group at the same time.
GoSuChicken
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany1726 Posts
August 09 2013 17:49 GMT
#3766
aaaaaaaaaaaaaand ahri is gonna be nerfed next.
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
August 09 2013 18:13 GMT
#3767
On August 10 2013 02:49 GoSuChicken wrote:
aaaaaaaaaaaaaand ahri is gonna be nerfed next.

I don't think Riot nerfs things that are strong in Korea, at least not until it spills over to NA and EU.

Hoping Frost takes revenge for Blaze and stomps the Bullets 3-0
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Thermia
Profile Joined August 2010
United States866 Posts
August 09 2013 18:25 GMT
#3768
On August 10 2013 03:13 MattBarry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 02:49 GoSuChicken wrote:
aaaaaaaaaaaaaand ahri is gonna be nerfed next.

I don't think Riot nerfs things that are strong in Korea, at least not until it spills over to NA and EU.

Hoping Frost takes revenge for Blaze and stomps the Bullets 3-0


And I'm hoping that KT can stomp frost and keep cj teams out of the finals for once.

Oh and it would be nice if they didnt nerf Ahri, she's perfectly fine as a champ; just fits the meta well atm.
Sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from trolling. IGN: Mierin
GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
August 09 2013 19:07 GMT
#3769
go frost go <3
Jo Byung Se #1 fan | CJ_Rush(reborn) fan | Liquid'Jinro(ret) fan | Liquid'Taeja fan | oGsTheSuperNada fan | Iris[gm](ret) fan |
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6421 Posts
August 09 2013 19:17 GMT
#3770
Ahri is in a good position; she doesn't need nerfs. She looks super strong because good teams are able to maximize the use of her mobility, burst and catch. Twitch however could use nerfs to his passive (less damage) and expunge (more mana).

Najin Shield just looked outclassed; games weren't even close.
bnet: caelym#1470 | Twitter: @caelym
necrosed
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil885 Posts
August 09 2013 19:23 GMT
#3771
The consensus here (between us in paiN) is that Ahri and Gragas are broken and it will probably take some time until Riot notices it.
Shadow of his former self.
Kouda
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2205 Posts
August 09 2013 20:40 GMT
#3772
On August 10 2013 04:23 necrosed wrote:
The consensus here (between us in paiN) is that Ahri and Gragas are broken and it will probably take some time until Riot notices it.


How is Gragas broken in your eyes? (legit question, not trying to troll)
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
August 09 2013 20:44 GMT
#3773
Thanks Ketchup!!
LiquidLegends StaffWho is Jon Galt?
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
August 09 2013 20:52 GMT
#3774
On August 10 2013 05:44 JonGalt wrote:
Thanks Ketchup!!


Sorry that I didn't make it for game 3. I wasn't paying much attention + falling asleep myself.
necrosed
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil885 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 21:04:40
August 09 2013 21:02 GMT
#3775
On August 10 2013 05:40 Kouda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 04:23 necrosed wrote:
The consensus here (between us in paiN) is that Ahri and Gragas are broken and it will probably take some time until Riot notices it.


How is Gragas broken in your eyes? (legit question, not trying to troll)


He doesn't have any weak matchups in lane, has good teamfighting abilities, to a lesser degree can initiate fights, has one of the best disengages in the game, can create picks and he's a good 2v1 laner. His W makes trading very easy for him, as not only he gets %damage reduction, it also provides him quite a lot of AD. Oh, and his Q is one of the few abilities in the game that slows attack speed.
Not only that, he can be played in top, mid or jungle. I also forgot to mention that he is very mobile and is a great roamer.
Shadow of his former self.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
August 09 2013 22:40 GMT
#3776
okay no more hipster picks.

SKT will smash Falcons 3-0.

Ozone probably the same, maybe if Riris doesn't go full CptJack like he did in the tiebreaker then they can take a game.

Bullets 3 > 2 Frost
SKT 3 > 2 Ozone

KT vs. SKT on the beach. 40,000+ people show up.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 09 2013 23:04 GMT
#3777
On August 10 2013 07:40 Fionn wrote:
okay no more hipster picks.

SKT will smash Falcons 3-0.

Ozone probably the same, maybe if Riris doesn't go full CptJack like he did in the tiebreaker then they can take a game.

Bullets 3 > 2 Frost
SKT 3 > 2 Ozone

KT vs. SKT on the beach. 40,000+ people show up.

I can't vote against Frost, sry.

But holy shit SKT v KTF would be amazing for Korea.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
ExoFun
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2041 Posts
August 10 2013 00:02 GMT
#3778
Info about runes/masteries used in OGN:
Left = Victoryscreen mid = Runes Right = Masteries

http://www.tving.com/micro/lol/league/game.do?category=result

Rune names
방어력 = Armor
마법 저항력 = MR
물리 피해 = AD
주문력 = AP
18레벨 주문력 = AP per lvl
방어구 관통력 = Armor PEN
마법 관통력 = Magic PEN
체력 = HP
공격 속도 = Attack speed
치명타율 = Crit chance
추가 생명력 흡수 = Life Steal
주문 흡혈 = Spell Vamp
5초당 체력 회복 = HP regen per 5sec
5초당 마나 회복 = Mana regen per 5sec
10초당 골드 지급 = Gold per 10sec
이동 속도 = Movement speed
재사용 대기시간 = Cooldown reduction
Don_Julio
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
2220 Posts
August 10 2013 00:11 GMT
#3779
On August 10 2013 07:40 Fionn wrote:
okay no more hipster picks.

SKT will smash Falcons 3-0.

Ozone probably the same, maybe if Riris doesn't go full CptJack like he did in the tiebreaker then they can take a game.

Bullets 3 > 2 Frost
SKT 3 > 2 Ozone

KT vs. SKT on the beach. 40,000+ people show up.


Your semi predictions are hipster picks, duh! Frost and Ozone are the favourites to get to the Finals imo.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
August 10 2013 01:22 GMT
#3780
SKT is a toss-up.

I like Bullets over Frost. Mafa/Score are good enough and safe enough to go even with the aggressive Madlife/Space duo. I think Kakao will be a big reason they'll win. If Insec doesn't do something stupid like he did at the end of Game 3 against Blaze, I like the Bullets chances.

Ozone/SKT is a toss-up. They're evenly matched in almost every position. Both have really good coaches and strategies. If SKT had kept on with their, 'FAKER MUST ROAM! HE MUST CARRY!', then I would say Ozone wins easily, as they showed they can easily beat '1 King, 4 Guards' strategy in the finals, but Faker has shown that he can play farm heavy, non-carry type champions and let Piglet, Bengi, and Impact be the #1 option in a game if need be. Faker has not played any champion more than five times in his career, out of 35+ appearances. His most played champion is Orianna, someone you really wouldn't connect with Faker.

I like CTU, but I really don't want them to beat Ozone. Simply due to the fact that if CTU wins, then Najin Sword will get a spot directly into the S3 Finals. They got 400 points with Maknoon as their MVP, and then they won NLB, getting another 100 points, by using Chop -- the sub Top Laner for Shield -- and beating Expession in the finals. They've done absolutely nothing with their current line-up.

I need to at least see them beat a Frost/SKT/Bullets/Blaze in a Bo5 before I buy them going to worlds.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
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