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Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-27 11:40:50
July 27 2013 11:36 GMT
#2541
I think people are going a bit overboard with the "viability" of Jayce now after 3.9.

Its like they think switching stances constantly was the only way to stack the tear fast enough. Jayce had other means besides just the stance dance. Q'ing whenever possible or when you going back to lane. Actvating W whenever you can. Just have to do it constantly. It also just means that you should rush a Manamune on Jayce that much faster or even first so that your auto attack helps with stacking too along with your Q's, W's, and E's.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
July 27 2013 11:36 GMT
#2542
On July 27 2013 19:26 GTR wrote:
Seems like Ahri has quickly become the first choice in mid lane this season. I guess her roaming ability is pretty valued.

ahri always was a soft version of kassadin without any counters in lane
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
July 27 2013 11:38 GMT
#2543
On July 27 2013 20:36 Disengaged wrote:
I think people are going a bit overboard with the "viability" of Jayce now after 3.9.



I really, really want Jayce to stay a common pick because I enjoy watching a skillful Korean Jayce a lot. Max range E Q snipes and so forth, makes for great moments.
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
July 27 2013 11:39 GMT
#2544
I feel like Najin should better just engage with their advatange than let Lilac jump into them...
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
July 27 2013 11:42 GMT
#2545
REVENGE OF THE JAYCE

Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
July 27 2013 11:42 GMT
#2546
Jayce won a game, time to nerf.
People get too easily offended by people getting too easily offended by the word rape.
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
July 27 2013 11:43 GMT
#2547
On July 27 2013 20:42 XaCez wrote:
Jayce won a game, time to nerf.


jayce the defender of tomorrow but cant def against Morello
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
July 27 2013 11:44 GMT
#2548
Expession leaves.

Shield suddenly best Najin.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
July 27 2013 11:45 GMT
#2549
Revenge of Woong coming up soon
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
Don_Julio
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
2220 Posts
July 27 2013 11:45 GMT
#2550
OH MY, Reach! I have to take a shower, that shirt too hot.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-27 12:04:20
July 27 2013 11:55 GMT
#2551
On July 27 2013 20:36 Disengaged wrote:
I think people are going a bit overboard with the "viability" of Jayce now after 3.9.

Its like they think switching stances constantly was the only way to stack the tear fast enough. Jayce had other means besides just the stance dance. Q'ing whenever possible or when you going back to lane. Actvating W whenever you can. Just have to do it constantly. It also just means that you should rush a Manamune on Jayce that much faster or even first so that your auto attack helps with stacking too along with your Q's, W's, and E's.

People are saying Jayce is overnerfed not just because of his ult not stacking tear. But rather due to his E having a massively increased cooldown. The tear/ult change is only a small part of why Jayce is much worse now.
Serelitz
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands2895 Posts
July 27 2013 11:58 GMT
#2552
idk I'd actually say the E cooldown isn't nearly as big as the tear change. Muramana is a massive boost to Jayce's teamfight damage because of his primed ranged W letting you get a lot of muramana proccs off in a short duration. Getting that at 18 minutes instead of what, 25 now? That's a pretty huge delay in power spike.
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
July 27 2013 12:01 GMT
#2553
On July 27 2013 20:44 Fionn wrote:
Expession leaves.

Shield suddenly best Najin.


I'm probably going to need at least a year to make sense of this.
TL+ Member
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
July 27 2013 12:04 GMT
#2554
On July 27 2013 20:58 Serelitz wrote:
idk I'd actually say the E cooldown isn't nearly as big as the tear change. Muramana is a massive boost to Jayce's teamfight damage because of his primed ranged W letting you get a lot of muramana proccs off in a short duration. Getting that at 18 minutes instead of what, 25 now? That's a pretty huge delay in power spike.

Having E on a 16 second cooldown up from 10 seconds is pretty big. I'm not saying that the tear change didnt hurt. It definitely did, but it's a combination of the two that brought Jayce down from his pedestal of OPness.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51521 Posts
July 27 2013 12:06 GMT
#2555
woong's dad?
Commentator
jpak
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States5045 Posts
July 27 2013 12:07 GMT
#2556
On July 27 2013 21:06 GTR wrote:
woong's dad?

The president of KESPA
CJ Entusman #50! #1 클템 fan TL!
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-27 12:08:14
July 27 2013 12:07 GMT
#2557
Wasn't that one of the KeSPA guys who handed over the check at OGN Spring finals?

edit: oh the president? no wonder he got loud cheers
asLeep
Profile Joined November 2010
United States293 Posts
July 27 2013 12:12 GMT
#2558
that madlife shop photo is amazing lol
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
July 27 2013 12:15 GMT
#2559
Wow madlife truly is god for the Korean fans.

Apparently he recently streamed on Afreeca and had 230k viewers.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
July 27 2013 12:17 GMT
#2560
Ganked By TF
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