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Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-29 19:41:41
June 29 2013 19:41 GMT
#341
On June 30 2013 04:34 Fwmeh wrote:
EU actually feels weaker than NA to me... And NA have not impressed me that much

Actually both regions look pretty weak but at least NA games were entertaining... I don't know, I'm really bored watching EU LCS and the games feel so much worse than during LCS spring :/
Iblis
Profile Joined April 2010
904 Posts
June 29 2013 19:42 GMT
#342
On June 30 2013 04:37 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 04:35 nafta wrote:
Am I the only person who feels like eu lcs is literally a cointoss for every single match?

It's just so random lol.

You just cant compare a team completely without practice with the same team after a week of practice. And a lot of us said in advance that this week will look different than the ones before because of that.


That's true on a lot of levels, but no one can't deny that the lee sin pick was awful and that ATN should have won this game by playing their top gameplay. You can say that ATN was bad in not making Aranae not play a Hecarim/Zac that suits him way better.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 29 2013 19:43 GMT
#343
On June 30 2013 04:40 Nitan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 04:38 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 30 2013 04:35 Redox wrote:
On June 30 2013 04:34 Fwmeh wrote:
EU actually feels weaker than NA to me... And NA have not impressed me that much

Because the "wrong" team won?

Btw I hope someone other than Ocelote gets interviewed for once.

CLG showing a lot of potential; they probably has the biggest amount of individual talent out of any EU/NA team.


50 minute throwfests show many things but certainly not "talent" and "potential".

"individual talent".
it's like people don't know how to read or something.
liftlift > tsm
Nitan
Profile Joined September 2008
United States3401 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-29 19:46:21
June 29 2013 19:43 GMT
#344
On June 30 2013 04:41 triangle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 04:35 Nitan wrote:
On June 30 2013 04:34 Fwmeh wrote:
EU actually feels weaker than NA to me... And NA have not impressed me that much


Did you see the NA games yesterday? Aside from Cloud 9, we have nothing.

CLG has been looking decent too.

Edit - what, did you watch the CLG games? O.o


Yes? Which ones weren't 50 minutes and didn't have at least one throw?

On June 30 2013 04:43 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 04:40 Nitan wrote:
On June 30 2013 04:38 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 30 2013 04:35 Redox wrote:
On June 30 2013 04:34 Fwmeh wrote:
EU actually feels weaker than NA to me... And NA have not impressed me that much

Because the "wrong" team won?

Btw I hope someone other than Ocelote gets interviewed for once.

CLG showing a lot of potential; they probably has the biggest amount of individual talent out of any EU/NA team.


50 minute throwfests show many things but certainly not "talent" and "potential".

"individual talent".
it's like people don't know how to read or something.


Throws are a team effort I'll give you that.

Also, same to you? No need to be snarky over nothing.
Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself. I am large, I contain multitudes.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-29 19:47:01
June 29 2013 19:45 GMT
#345
I am a clg fan but honestly every game they won has a lot of bad play by enemy team.In both eu/na pretty much every game is lost because one team does dumb shit.

edit:Who said they aren't talented?
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
June 29 2013 19:45 GMT
#346
I dunno how people can deny that players like link, doublelift and nien aren't talented :/
Granted CLG is very good at collective full retard like most of NA but the players are there it's a matter of getting them together.
Glorious SEA doto
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
June 29 2013 19:45 GMT
#347
On June 30 2013 04:43 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 04:40 Nitan wrote:
On June 30 2013 04:38 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 30 2013 04:35 Redox wrote:
On June 30 2013 04:34 Fwmeh wrote:
EU actually feels weaker than NA to me... And NA have not impressed me that much

Because the "wrong" team won?

Btw I hope someone other than Ocelote gets interviewed for once.

CLG showing a lot of potential; they probably has the biggest amount of individual talent out of any EU/NA team.


50 minute throwfests show many things but certainly not "talent" and "potential".

"individual talent".
it's like people don't know how to read or something.

Individual talent of CLG has mostly been hyped by themselves. I did not see them do anything that others could not.
Off-season = best season
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9193 Posts
June 29 2013 19:47 GMT
#348
Start the damn games, I don't care what SWAGGER420 said on Twitter
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-29 19:48:49
June 29 2013 19:48 GMT
#349
On June 30 2013 04:42 Iblis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 04:37 Redox wrote:
On June 30 2013 04:35 nafta wrote:
Am I the only person who feels like eu lcs is literally a cointoss for every single match?

It's just so random lol.

You just cant compare a team completely without practice with the same team after a week of practice. And a lot of us said in advance that this week will look different than the ones before because of that.


That's true on a lot of levels, but no one can't deny that the lee sin pick was awful and that ATN should have won this game by playing their top gameplay. You can say that ATN was bad in not making Aranae not play a Hecarim/Zac that suits him way better.


well to be fair he did get a lot of ganks off in the last game where he played Lee, but Lee is such a risky pick nowdays if you don't have Insec mechanics. If the lane phase ends up being really short like this game it's really hard to make an impact on lee without gold and or the ability to make picks with Dragons Rage.

that said I agree, I'd prefer he picked something else if I was on his team.
Carrilord has arrived.
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
June 29 2013 19:48 GMT
#350
Right before EG vs Gambit:

"Which junglers do you want to see in the LCS?"

Answers:
1- "Malz jungle from Snoopeh or a Gragas jungle"
2- "Udyr jungle from diamondprox"

Wow, 2 antifans of their respective teams :D
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
JALbert
Profile Joined March 2011
United States484 Posts
June 29 2013 19:48 GMT
#351
MICK_SWAGGER_420 carrying the banner for Grackille O'Neal and Poopfeast420.
Stealing Nashor Podcast - http://stealingnashor.libsyn.com | Stupid build enthusiast
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
June 29 2013 19:48 GMT
#352
For starters there aren't any retarded no damage Ez builds? :D
fantasticoranges
Profile Joined July 2011
1327 Posts
June 29 2013 19:48 GMT
#353
As far as I remember, both clg vs c9 and clg vs vul did both take 50~ minutes, but it wasn't a throw.

It was just clg playing their late game team comp, and then getting there and winning.

Neither games were really throws, unless your definition of throw is as vague as "any time a team that's ahead loses".
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
June 29 2013 19:49 GMT
#354
I am pretty optimistic that EG can win vs Gambit. At least they looked great in the practice matches I saw.

The only thing I fear is that Wickd might pick Kennen. Please dont do it. T.T
Off-season = best season
Iblis
Profile Joined April 2010
904 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-29 19:51:33
June 29 2013 19:49 GMT
#355
On June 30 2013 04:43 Nitan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 04:41 triangle wrote:
On June 30 2013 04:35 Nitan wrote:
On June 30 2013 04:34 Fwmeh wrote:
EU actually feels weaker than NA to me... And NA have not impressed me that much


Did you see the NA games yesterday? Aside from Cloud 9, we have nothing.

CLG has been looking decent too.

Edit - what, did you watch the CLG games? O.o


Yes? Which ones weren't 50 minutes and didn't have at least one throw?

Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 04:43 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 30 2013 04:40 Nitan wrote:
On June 30 2013 04:38 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 30 2013 04:35 Redox wrote:
On June 30 2013 04:34 Fwmeh wrote:
EU actually feels weaker than NA to me... And NA have not impressed me that much

Because the "wrong" team won?

Btw I hope someone other than Ocelote gets interviewed for once.

CLG showing a lot of potential; they probably has the biggest amount of individual talent out of any EU/NA team.


50 minute throwfests show many things but certainly not "talent" and "potential".

"individual talent".
it's like people don't know how to read or something.


Throws are a team effort I'll give you that.


I would say CLG is a solid team in that if you are not "that" good they will go in lategame and win because Doublelift will be huge and they are really good in the "save the liftlift, save the world" strategy. As a spectator it looks like the others teams are weak.
When looking at C9 games, you see extremely swift reactions, focus fire switching in a split second, and really committed engage. C9 look strong.

Like he said:
On June 30 2013 04:45 nafta wrote:
I am a clg fan but honestly every game they won has a lot of bad play by enemy team.In both eu/na pretty much every game is lost because one team does dumb shit.

edit:Who said they aren't talented?

Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
June 29 2013 19:49 GMT
#356
On June 30 2013 04:45 nafta wrote:
I am a clg fan but honestly every game they won has a lot of bad play by enemy team.In both eu/na pretty much every game is lost because one team does dumb shit.

edit:Who said they aren't talented?


It's a rather silly discussion anyway when we know season final's money goes to asians. Who cares who thinks they are better, fact is EU/NA is going to get shit on, with these kind of play's.
Don_Julio
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
2220 Posts
June 29 2013 19:50 GMT
#357
Joe Miller sais "El Clasico" at least once per week.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
June 29 2013 19:50 GMT
#358
On June 30 2013 04:49 Lysanias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 04:45 nafta wrote:
I am a clg fan but honestly every game they won has a lot of bad play by enemy team.In both eu/na pretty much every game is lost because one team does dumb shit.

edit:Who said they aren't talented?


It's a rather silly discussion anyway when we know season final's money goes to asians. Who cares who thinks they are better, fact is EU/NA is going to get shit on, with these kind of play's.

Gotta fight for second from bottom man.
Glorious SEA doto
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
June 29 2013 19:50 GMT
#359
I honestly feel like NA and EU are getting a lot closer in skill, I thought it was obvious but maybe it's an unpopular opinion? if NA was not so weak in mid they could probly pass EU this split.
Carrilord has arrived.
Nitan
Profile Joined September 2008
United States3401 Posts
June 29 2013 19:51 GMT
#360
On June 30 2013 04:49 Lysanias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 04:45 nafta wrote:
I am a clg fan but honestly every game they won has a lot of bad play by enemy team.In both eu/na pretty much every game is lost because one team does dumb shit.

edit:Who said they aren't talented?


It's a rather silly discussion anyway when we know season final's money goes to asians. Who cares who thinks they are better, fact is EU/NA is going to get shit on, with these kind of play's.


There was some hope, arguably delusional hope, after week 1 in the NA LCS.

Now we can't even have delusions. ):
Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself. I am large, I contain multitudes.
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