EPT[EU LCS] Summer Super Week 1 @ DHS - Page 47
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Caphe
Vietnam10817 Posts
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On June 17 2013 00:15 Emnel wrote: @Redox This is mostly the rank of my predictions of how well those teams will do in rest of this week and next few. Therefore it's ranking of their power for the time being. Please post yours - I'd love to see someone elses opinion on the matter. Actually 1st three should be listed togather since they seem to be stronger than other 5 but it's still too little data to tell how they are compared to eachother. On topic: Another Malphite semi-first pick. What can possibly go wrong? You rate Atn and LD way too high. They will probably fall off. Single games generally get overrated here. LD over Gambit is just a joke. | ||
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
On June 17 2013 00:15 Emnel wrote: @Redox This is mostly the rank of my predictions of how well those teams will do in rest of this week and next few. Therefore it's ranking of their power for the time being. Please post yours - I'd love to see someone elses opinion on the matter. Actually 1st three should be listed togather since they seem to be stronger than other 5 but it's still too little data to tell how they are compared to eachother. On topic: Another Malphite semi-first pick. What can possibly go wrong? You can argue all you want, and make all the power rank we can, we only saw something like 3-4 game from all the teams, it's not enough to say anything about the current power rank. It's all best of 1, fnatic getting stomped by EG is not enough to make me consider that EG is better than fnatic, I don't understand why LemonDog winning one game on EG should be enough to make us consider that LD is better than EG. Back to the game, I expect a good game out of NeeGodBro (he played solid since the final of the last split), but all will depend on Bjergsen performance in the end, like in all game coming from NiP. | ||
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Emnel
Greece384 Posts
On June 17 2013 00:19 Redox wrote: You rate Atn and LD way too high. They will probably fall off. Single games generally get overrated here. yeah, you are probably right about LD. I'll stick to my statement about ATN tho. They seem very good allaround: teamfights, picks, comps etc. Oddly enough. EDIT: On June 17 2013 00:19 WhiteDog wrote: You can argue all you want, and make all the power rank we can, we only saw something like 3-4 game from all the teams, it's not enough to say anything about the current power rank. It's all best of 1, fnatic getting stomped by EG is not enough to make me consider that EG is better than fnatic, I don't understand why LemonDog winning one game on EG should be enough to make us consider that LD is better than EG. Back to the game, I expect a good game out of NeeGodBro (he played solid since the final of the last split), but all will depend on Bjergsen performance in the end, like in all game coming from NiP. Well, all predictions so early one are obviously more fun and killing time than very educated guesses. And as I wrote above: I missed that FN-EG game and I agree that I've probably put LG too high. After reading your feedback if robably go with: MYM&Fnatic&ATN > EG&Gambit&LD > SK&NiP (order matters, but very slightly). | ||
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
On June 17 2013 00:21 Emnel wrote: yeah, you are probably right about LD. I'll stick to my statement about ATN tho. They seem very good allaround: teamfights, picks, comps etc. Oddly enough. One or two match doesn't mean anything, especially best of 1... | ||
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Lysanias
Netherlands8351 Posts
On June 17 2013 00:21 Emnel wrote: yeah, you are probably right about LD. I'll stick to my statement about ATN tho. They seem very good allaround: teamfights, picks, comps etc. Oddly enough. My money is on established teams, they generally have less high/low games. In a series like this first weeks matter little, it's the consistancy that matters new teams practiced there asses off. I see Fnatic/Gambit/EG on the top 3 just like pref season. the rest ... does that actualy matter ?  | ||
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
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Emnel
Greece384 Posts
On June 17 2013 00:25 Lysanias wrote: My money is on established teams, they generally have less high/low games. In a series like this first weeks matter little, it's the consistancy that matters new teams practiced there asses off. I see Fnatic/Gambit/EG on the top 3 just like pref season. the rest ... does that actualy matter ? I would actually put my money on MYM in top 3. | ||
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MrMercuG
Netherlands2389 Posts
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DragoonTT
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They're still probably (with the exception of Creaton and, to a lesser extent, FLord) not as mechanically/strategically sound as the other teams. However, they might have been underestimated by the other teams and are pretty hard to prepare for strategically, considering the amount of champions all of them can play. | ||
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MrMercuG
Netherlands2389 Posts
On June 17 2013 00:21 WhiteDog wrote: One or two match doesn't mean anything, especially best of 1... Hahah got you there! ATN is 3-0 so obv it does matter..... Sorry :/ | ||
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upperbound
United States2300 Posts
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MrMercuG
Netherlands2389 Posts
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
On June 17 2013 00:26 Emnel wrote: Yes, yes I know. As i wrote above - its more "guess" than "educated". Putting ATN and even MYM on par with fnatic and before EG and Gambit is an insult to me. Sure they are great, but they only played 3 game. Same NiP, I really don't know where they stand. To me they are one of the best LCS EU team, but they are just losing every match since the start. Are they just straight out finished ? Is it just a little problem that will be fixed in the upcoming matches ? Judging the quality of a team, and judging its qualities relatively to other team ask for a lot of datas, datas that we don't have yet. Look in NA, Cloud 9 won ALL their games in dominating fashion, which makes us all consider that they are one of the best NA. But still, even C9 continue to consider that TSM are better than them. It's not stupid respect toward TSM, it's just that all in all, 5 game is very little. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
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MrMercuG
Netherlands2389 Posts
On June 17 2013 00:33 WhiteDog wrote: Putting ATN and even MYM on par with fnatic and before EG and Gambit is an insult to me. Sure they are great, but they only played 3 game. Same NiP, I really don't know where they stand. To me they are one of the best LCS EU team, but they are just losing every match since the start. Are they just straight out finished ? Is it just a little problem that will be fixed in the upcoming matches ? Judging the quality of a team, and judging its qualities relatively to other team ask for a lot of datas, datas that we don't have yet. Look in NA, Cloud 9 won ALL their games in dominating fashion, which makes us all consider that they are one of the best NA. But still, even C9 continue to consider that TSM are better than them. It's not stupid respect toward TSM, it's just that all in all, 5 game is very little. I think the scene in EU is a lot more closer together on skill level than the NA scene is, C9 and TSM are clearly stronger in this meta, Curse need to adapt to their new support. And well CLG and Dig are doing decently. In EU everyone can lose to everyone in this split and IMO that's what makes EU so interesting, because when NiP, SK and Gambit get back to their original form they can easily beat all the others. | ||
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Emnel
Greece384 Posts
Putting ATN and even MYM on par with fnatic and before EG and Gambit is an insult to me Oh, we are clearly care about this to the very different degree then ; As I said over and over: My ranking is mostly about fun and bold predictions coupled with a bit of wishful thinking that new teams will give old dogs a run for their money. When it comes to MYM i've watched dozens of their games casted by Demen in warious go4lol tournaments and stuff and they are my no means rookies. And tey are clearly getting better and better. Thatsa why I consider them the biggest threat for so called established teams. | ||
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
On June 17 2013 00:39 MrMercuG wrote: I think the scene in EU is a lot more closer together on skill level than the NA scene is, C9 and TSM are clearly stronger in this meta, Curse need to adapt to their new support. And well CLG and Dig are doing decently. In EU everyone can lose to everyone in this split and IMO that's what makes EU so interesting, because when NiP, SK and Gambit get back to their original form they can easily beat all the others. Yes I think so too. Gambit, second in the last split, lost a shit ton of games against Ozone Giants, the dead last... | ||
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Chemiczny84
Poland458 Posts
On June 17 2013 00:33 WhiteDog wrote: Putting ATN and even MYM on par with fnatic and before EG and Gambit is an insult to me. Sure they are great, but they only played 3 game. you have heard of MYM before, right? taking Bo3s vs Korean teams etc.? They have same roster for a long time, and are easily champion contenders, I laughed so hard yesterday when one of the commentators was saying NiP are favourites vs MYM | ||
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