On June 16 2013 00:53 kongoline wrote:
theres also extinct, eu just has alot of great mids
theres also extinct, eu just has alot of great mids
Indeed forgot about him, just to many good mids on unlucky teams.
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Lysanias
Netherlands8351 Posts
On June 16 2013 00:53 kongoline wrote: Show nested quote + On June 16 2013 00:51 Lysanias wrote: On June 16 2013 00:47 nafta wrote: On June 16 2013 00:43 WhiteDog wrote: On June 16 2013 00:40 nafta wrote: Don't think it's fair to just say xpeke is the best lol.Czaru/Xpeke/Alex/Bjergsen/Froggen could all deserve that title on a good day. Alexich stated xPeke was the best at the moment. Sure skill wise they all are pretty even, but the meta really favor xPeke type of play (all over the map, back door and all) at least in the previous split and in EU. Noone says I am the best and they name others.I also forgot about Forellenlord.Eu mids are STACKED.No other role in na/eu can compare. To be fair NA focus is alot more on bot lane. I do wonder how long Tabbz will play AD, for me he to was one of the better mids around that was not in LCS. theres also extinct, eu just has alot of great mids Indeed forgot about him, just to many good mids on unlucky teams. | ||
WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
On June 16 2013 00:46 Shikyo wrote: IMO Bjergsen is better than xpeke, xpeke just has it much easier because his team is far better They are really different from what I understand. Bjergsen feel like some kind of war machine. His pick are most of time oriented toward this (zed, syndra) and he just crush in team fights or duel. xPeke mostly play mobile champions (tf, kha, ahri) who can duel but are more oriented toward map presence. I'm not making the comparaison all things equal, because that doesn't mean much. Froggen for exemple is respected as one of the most skilled player in the world, but nobody can really say that today he is undoubtedly the best mid, because he doesn't have the same impact has he had before. In the current meta, altho his skills are real and on par with all other top EU, he doesn't deliver as much as xPeke, Bjergsen (and Alexich, but he is inconsistent lately). | ||
Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On June 16 2013 00:51 Redox wrote: Show nested quote + On June 16 2013 00:47 nafta wrote: On June 16 2013 00:43 WhiteDog wrote: On June 16 2013 00:40 nafta wrote: Don't think it's fair to just say xpeke is the best lol.Czaru/Xpeke/Alex/Bjergsen/Froggen could all deserve that title on a good day. Alexich stated xPeke was the best at the moment. Sure skill wise they all are pretty even, but the meta really favor xPeke type of play (all over the map, back door and all) at least in the previous split and in EU. Noone says I am the best and they name others.I also forgot about Forellenlord.Eu mids are STACKED.No other role in na/eu can compare. I generally agree. Forellenlord, while a good palyer, does not belong in this group though. You might change your mind in 2 games! | ||
Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On June 16 2013 00:53 Lysanias wrote: Show nested quote + On June 16 2013 00:53 kongoline wrote: On June 16 2013 00:51 Lysanias wrote: On June 16 2013 00:47 nafta wrote: On June 16 2013 00:43 WhiteDog wrote: On June 16 2013 00:40 nafta wrote: Don't think it's fair to just say xpeke is the best lol.Czaru/Xpeke/Alex/Bjergsen/Froggen could all deserve that title on a good day. Alexich stated xPeke was the best at the moment. Sure skill wise they all are pretty even, but the meta really favor xPeke type of play (all over the map, back door and all) at least in the previous split and in EU. Noone says I am the best and they name others.I also forgot about Forellenlord.Eu mids are STACKED.No other role in na/eu can compare. To be fair NA focus is alot more on bot lane. I do wonder how long Tabbz will play AD, for me he to was one of the better mids around that was not in LCS. theres also extinct, eu just has alot of great mids Indeed forgot about him, just to many good mids on unlucky teams. To quote doublelift "CitizenWayne is a great mid, it's just his team is awful". In an interview with thorin. An acer employee :p | ||
Lylat
France8575 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On June 16 2013 00:53 WhiteDog wrote: Show nested quote + On June 16 2013 00:46 Shikyo wrote: IMO Bjergsen is better than xpeke, xpeke just has it much easier because his team is far better They are really different from what I understand. Bjergsen feel like some kind of war machine. His pick are most of time oriented toward this (zed, syndra) and he just crush in team fights or duel. xPeke mostly play mobile champions (tf, kha, ahri) who can duel but are more oriented toward map presence. No? Bjergsen's best-known champion is Kassadin and his Kha'zix and Twisted Fate are really good. He is pretty much the best ganker mid in EU with constant global presence. | ||
Lysanias
Netherlands8351 Posts
On June 16 2013 00:55 Fusilero wrote: Show nested quote + On June 16 2013 00:53 Lysanias wrote: On June 16 2013 00:53 kongoline wrote: On June 16 2013 00:51 Lysanias wrote: On June 16 2013 00:47 nafta wrote: On June 16 2013 00:43 WhiteDog wrote: On June 16 2013 00:40 nafta wrote: Don't think it's fair to just say xpeke is the best lol.Czaru/Xpeke/Alex/Bjergsen/Froggen could all deserve that title on a good day. Alexich stated xPeke was the best at the moment. Sure skill wise they all are pretty even, but the meta really favor xPeke type of play (all over the map, back door and all) at least in the previous split and in EU. Noone says I am the best and they name others.I also forgot about Forellenlord.Eu mids are STACKED.No other role in na/eu can compare. To be fair NA focus is alot more on bot lane. I do wonder how long Tabbz will play AD, for me he to was one of the better mids around that was not in LCS. theres also extinct, eu just has alot of great mids Indeed forgot about him, just to many good mids on unlucky teams. To quote doublelift "CitizenWayne is a great mid, it's just his team is awful". In an interview with thorin. An acer employee :p He should use that for his own team ![]() | ||
Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On June 16 2013 00:53 Lysanias wrote: Show nested quote + On June 16 2013 00:53 kongoline wrote: On June 16 2013 00:51 Lysanias wrote: On June 16 2013 00:47 nafta wrote: On June 16 2013 00:43 WhiteDog wrote: On June 16 2013 00:40 nafta wrote: Don't think it's fair to just say xpeke is the best lol.Czaru/Xpeke/Alex/Bjergsen/Froggen could all deserve that title on a good day. Alexich stated xPeke was the best at the moment. Sure skill wise they all are pretty even, but the meta really favor xPeke type of play (all over the map, back door and all) at least in the previous split and in EU. Noone says I am the best and they name others.I also forgot about Forellenlord.Eu mids are STACKED.No other role in na/eu can compare. To be fair NA focus is alot more on bot lane. I do wonder how long Tabbz will play AD, for me he to was one of the better mids around that was not in LCS. theres also extinct, eu just has alot of great mids Indeed forgot about him, just to many good mids on unlucky teams. Yeah forgot about him for a moment too, although I am a fan of him. I would also put him up there, making it the top 6. He is in a good team now btw, that is totally destroying every non-LCS tournament. Unfortunately they have to wait long to get a shot at LCS, although they easily belong there skillwise. | ||
nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On June 16 2013 00:55 Lylat wrote: Why is there such a long time between 2 games ? Technical difficulties again ? It's eu lcs.If you are not prepared for this then sorry but you really need to learn your lesson :D. | ||
TheLink
Australia2725 Posts
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
On June 16 2013 00:57 Shikyo wrote: Show nested quote + On June 16 2013 00:53 WhiteDog wrote: On June 16 2013 00:46 Shikyo wrote: IMO Bjergsen is better than xpeke, xpeke just has it much easier because his team is far better They are really different from what I understand. Bjergsen feel like some kind of war machine. His pick are most of time oriented toward this (zed, syndra) and he just crush in team fights or duel. xPeke mostly play mobile champions (tf, kha, ahri) who can duel but are more oriented toward map presence. No? Bjergsen's best-known champion is Kassadin and his Kha'zix and Twisted Fate are really good. He is pretty much the best ganker mid in EU with constant global presence. He started crushing face with Syndra (pentakill remember ?) and Zed in the LCS, and his favorite champion is syndra according to leaguepedia. With Zed he had an amazing play where he splitpushed and freaking stomped anyone who came to prevent him from pushing. I'm sorry if we can't agree on this, but to me xPeke doesn't play like this. He is mostly known for his backdoor mobility, pressure on objectives. | ||
Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On June 16 2013 01:00 WhiteDog wrote: Show nested quote + On June 16 2013 00:57 Shikyo wrote: On June 16 2013 00:53 WhiteDog wrote: On June 16 2013 00:46 Shikyo wrote: IMO Bjergsen is better than xpeke, xpeke just has it much easier because his team is far better They are really different from what I understand. Bjergsen feel like some kind of war machine. His pick are most of time oriented toward this (zed, syndra) and he just crush in team fights or duel. xPeke mostly play mobile champions (tf, kha, ahri) who can duel but are more oriented toward map presence. No? Bjergsen's best-known champion is Kassadin and his Kha'zix and Twisted Fate are really good. He is pretty much the best ganker mid in EU with constant global presence. He started crushing face with Syndra (pentakill remember ?) and Zed in the LCS, and his favorite champion is syndra according to leaguepedia. With Zed he had an amazing play where he splitpushed and freaking stomped anyone who came to prevent him from pushing. I'm sorry if you cannot agree on this, but xPeke doesn't play like this at all. He is mostly known for his backdoor. He can play different things, yes. Take a look at his Kassadin VODs though? | ||
Lylat
France8575 Posts
On June 16 2013 00:58 nafta wrote: Show nested quote + On June 16 2013 00:55 Lylat wrote: Why is there such a long time between 2 games ? Technical difficulties again ? It's eu lcs.If you are not prepared for this then sorry but you really need to learn your lesson :D. Yeah yeah I know I followed last season but did they mention there was a problem ? Or is it the sound problem they're trying to fix ? | ||
Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On June 16 2013 01:01 Lylat wrote: Show nested quote + On June 16 2013 00:58 nafta wrote: On June 16 2013 00:55 Lylat wrote: Why is there such a long time between 2 games ? Technical difficulties again ? It's eu lcs.If you are not prepared for this then sorry but you really need to learn your lesson :D. Yeah yeah I know I followed last season but did they mention there was a problem ? Or is it the sound problem they're trying to fix ? I like to imagine it's all actually fine but they're delaying it to keep that EU LCS feel :p Or it probably has something to do with the observer computer exploding in a flurry of bsod which they have to deal with. | ||
Lysanias
Netherlands8351 Posts
On June 16 2013 01:01 Lylat wrote: Show nested quote + On June 16 2013 00:58 nafta wrote: On June 16 2013 00:55 Lylat wrote: Why is there such a long time between 2 games ? Technical difficulties again ? It's eu lcs.If you are not prepared for this then sorry but you really need to learn your lesson :D. Yeah yeah I know I followed last season but did they mention there was a problem ? Or is it the sound problem they're trying to fix ? Problems with the main observer pc. Proberly replacing it right now would be my guess. That way we atleast get game sound again. pfff mmmmzzz ninja'd away. | ||
WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
On June 16 2013 01:01 Shikyo wrote: Now 30min behind schedule. Show nested quote + On June 16 2013 01:00 WhiteDog wrote: On June 16 2013 00:57 Shikyo wrote: On June 16 2013 00:53 WhiteDog wrote: On June 16 2013 00:46 Shikyo wrote: IMO Bjergsen is better than xpeke, xpeke just has it much easier because his team is far better They are really different from what I understand. Bjergsen feel like some kind of war machine. His pick are most of time oriented toward this (zed, syndra) and he just crush in team fights or duel. xPeke mostly play mobile champions (tf, kha, ahri) who can duel but are more oriented toward map presence. No? Bjergsen's best-known champion is Kassadin and his Kha'zix and Twisted Fate are really good. He is pretty much the best ganker mid in EU with constant global presence. He started crushing face with Syndra (pentakill remember ?) and Zed in the LCS, and his favorite champion is syndra according to leaguepedia. With Zed he had an amazing play where he splitpushed and freaking stomped anyone who came to prevent him from pushing. I'm sorry if you cannot agree on this, but xPeke doesn't play like this at all. He is mostly known for his backdoor. He can play different things, yes. Take a look at his Kassadin VODs though? He can play all the mids better than most, that's not what I'm saying at all. | ||
Lylat
France8575 Posts
On June 16 2013 01:02 Lysanias wrote: Show nested quote + On June 16 2013 01:01 Lylat wrote: On June 16 2013 00:58 nafta wrote: On June 16 2013 00:55 Lylat wrote: Why is there such a long time between 2 games ? Technical difficulties again ? It's eu lcs.If you are not prepared for this then sorry but you really need to learn your lesson :D. Yeah yeah I know I followed last season but did they mention there was a problem ? Or is it the sound problem they're trying to fix ? Problems with the main observer pc. Proberly replacing it right now would be my guess. That way we atleast get game sound again. OK but why does it take so long lol ? I remember when they had to change a computer during OGN it took 5min lol, are they making a new one or what ? Damn why does RIOT HATE US !! | ||
Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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Kenpark
Germany2350 Posts
On June 16 2013 00:51 Redox wrote: Show nested quote + On June 16 2013 00:47 nafta wrote: On June 16 2013 00:43 WhiteDog wrote: On June 16 2013 00:40 nafta wrote: Don't think it's fair to just say xpeke is the best lol.Czaru/Xpeke/Alex/Bjergsen/Froggen could all deserve that title on a good day. Alexich stated xPeke was the best at the moment. Sure skill wise they all are pretty even, but the meta really favor xPeke type of play (all over the map, back door and all) at least in the previous split and in EU. Noone says I am the best and they name others.I also forgot about Forellenlord.Eu mids are STACKED.No other role in na/eu can compare. I generally agree. Forellenlord, while a good palyer, does not belong in this group though. Not yet though I agree. This mid from this new lemon team stated in an ama few weeks ago Bjergsen>AlexIch>Xpeke Somehow I feel Fanatic synergie and good teamplay make some of their players look better than they are (Soaz and Rekkles also come to mind). For Bjergsen, he always seem to carry ultra hard, even in his soloq games. On Kha he is 15,3/4,7/6 on average lol. | ||
Lysanias
Netherlands8351 Posts
On June 16 2013 01:03 WhiteDog wrote: Show nested quote + On June 16 2013 01:01 Shikyo wrote: Now 30min behind schedule. On June 16 2013 01:00 WhiteDog wrote: On June 16 2013 00:57 Shikyo wrote: On June 16 2013 00:53 WhiteDog wrote: On June 16 2013 00:46 Shikyo wrote: IMO Bjergsen is better than xpeke, xpeke just has it much easier because his team is far better They are really different from what I understand. Bjergsen feel like some kind of war machine. His pick are most of time oriented toward this (zed, syndra) and he just crush in team fights or duel. xPeke mostly play mobile champions (tf, kha, ahri) who can duel but are more oriented toward map presence. No? Bjergsen's best-known champion is Kassadin and his Kha'zix and Twisted Fate are really good. He is pretty much the best ganker mid in EU with constant global presence. He started crushing face with Syndra (pentakill remember ?) and Zed in the LCS, and his favorite champion is syndra according to leaguepedia. With Zed he had an amazing play where he splitpushed and freaking stomped anyone who came to prevent him from pushing. I'm sorry if you cannot agree on this, but xPeke doesn't play like this at all. He is mostly known for his backdoor. He can play different things, yes. Take a look at his Kassadin VODs though? He can play all the mids better than most, that's not what I'm saying at all. Personaly i'd like to see NiP vs other teams outside the LCS, mainly asian teams. And then compare him to xPeke. | ||
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