On April 19 2013 10:15 Slow Motion wrote:
It was pretty infuriating as a Crs fan how low Dig got every fight and survived.
It was pretty infuriating as a Crs fan how low Dig got every fight and survived.
Karthus press- Oh wait.
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Nitan
United States3401 Posts
On April 19 2013 10:15 Slow Motion wrote: It was pretty infuriating as a Crs fan how low Dig got every fight and survived. Karthus press- Oh wait. | ||
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IshinShishi
Japan6156 Posts
On April 19 2013 10:12 Nitan wrote: Show nested quote + On April 19 2013 10:11 onlywonderboy wrote: On April 19 2013 10:10 IshinShishi wrote: On April 19 2013 10:09 Redox wrote: On April 19 2013 10:07 Nitan wrote: Goodbye Cop love~ Hello Cop hate~ Lol indeed. Generally people dont look at more than a few numbers anyway when they hype or hate someone.. I saw the arrows. You should have watched the prior game where his arrows caught them up when they were behind and pretty much won them the game :p I am pretty sure you can only judge players by the one game they have just played. Well, he did miss like 3 important arrows that were not that hard to land and ended up costing CRS those team fights during the mid game. | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On April 19 2013 10:15 Slow Motion wrote: It was pretty infuriating as a Crs fan how low Dig got every fight and survived. I'm in public and had to contain my frustration. Lots of sighs of disappointment. On April 19 2013 10:17 IshinShishi wrote: Show nested quote + On April 19 2013 10:12 Nitan wrote: On April 19 2013 10:11 onlywonderboy wrote: On April 19 2013 10:10 IshinShishi wrote: On April 19 2013 10:09 Redox wrote: On April 19 2013 10:07 Nitan wrote: Goodbye Cop love~ Hello Cop hate~ Lol indeed. Generally people dont look at more than a few numbers anyway when they hype or hate someone.. I saw the arrows. You should have watched the prior game where his arrows caught them up when they were behind and pretty much won them the game :p I am pretty sure you can only judge players by the one game they have just played. Well, he did miss like 3 important arrows that were not that hard to land and ended up costing CRS those team fights during the mid game. You're right, he's trash. | ||
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KissBlade
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Leeto
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La1
United Kingdom659 Posts
Vulcun Command 10-15 5 (-0) W2 this game is so huge, if vulcan win it is 11-15 vs 12-14.. | ||
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Nitan
United States3401 Posts
On April 19 2013 10:18 KissBlade wrote: Elementz had such an opportunity for Sona on top of that Karthus ult but instead ... =( Honestly, I felt Elementz's crescendos were actually really good in general that game. It's just that his team didn't have the damage to back them up. Nyjacky just melted and Cop had no farm. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On April 19 2013 10:13 LaM wrote: Show nested quote + On April 19 2013 10:10 Alaric wrote: On April 19 2013 10:06 LaM wrote: Kobe still talking about a Dignitas kite comp when I guarantee you they initiate the next fight, as they have been all game. EDIT: Lol. What do you know. EDIT2: LOL. kobe still talking about that as dignitas kiting. lmfao That's what they do. They use Scarra as the core to catch and burst Karthus, then they start kiting the rest. Cop isn't a threat, so they abuse the slows, roots and flings of Voli/Singed/Zyra to disengage, isolate Renekton/Nasus, and kill them. Just look at how they disengaged bot after they killed Karthus and the inhib tower: everybody running, and if they weren't so low they could keep fighting while backing. Now, to come back to interesting stuff: DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGNIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAS! I don't think thats accurate at all. Every team is going to kite damage dealers, kiting is part of every fight. But I would never call Singed/Voli/Eve diving in and disrupting as kite. I mean, you can call any team/fight kiting because carries kite divers and divers get CC'ed off by tanks/supports, but I think its laughable to call a team who initiated every fight by diving in with ghosted melee champs a kite team. And the fight at bot you talked about was a dive where they got to low in Karthus defile and ran away. I'm not sure what else 4 ppl with 500 hp would do but run away, hardly what I would call evidence of a kite comp. Yeah, I won't call Dig's comp a kite comp, because it's obviously not designed for that, more a "dive/snipe the carries while using the disruption to protect yours, then collapse on the enemy frontline". However, due to how the game played out (the way they consistentlt caught Karthus and Ashe not being a threat) they didn't need to keep going with the dives: only deal with Karthus (making their focus easier), then ignore Ashe if you can't get her easily (they got her down but never chased trying to finish her, unless Voli or Singed was already on top of them) and start kiting backward after Zyra disengaged so you can sandwich the enemy between the duo, and the offtanks. | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
No Nid ban lol. Trying to bait? | ||
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beefhamburger
United States3962 Posts
Edit: hazzah! | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
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LaM
United States1321 Posts
On April 19 2013 10:26 Alaric wrote: Show nested quote + On April 19 2013 10:13 LaM wrote: On April 19 2013 10:10 Alaric wrote: On April 19 2013 10:06 LaM wrote: Kobe still talking about a Dignitas kite comp when I guarantee you they initiate the next fight, as they have been all game. EDIT: Lol. What do you know. EDIT2: LOL. kobe still talking about that as dignitas kiting. lmfao That's what they do. They use Scarra as the core to catch and burst Karthus, then they start kiting the rest. Cop isn't a threat, so they abuse the slows, roots and flings of Voli/Singed/Zyra to disengage, isolate Renekton/Nasus, and kill them. Just look at how they disengaged bot after they killed Karthus and the inhib tower: everybody running, and if they weren't so low they could keep fighting while backing. Now, to come back to interesting stuff: DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGNIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAS! I don't think thats accurate at all. Every team is going to kite damage dealers, kiting is part of every fight. But I would never call Singed/Voli/Eve diving in and disrupting as kite. I mean, you can call any team/fight kiting because carries kite divers and divers get CC'ed off by tanks/supports, but I think its laughable to call a team who initiated every fight by diving in with ghosted melee champs a kite team. And the fight at bot you talked about was a dive where they got to low in Karthus defile and ran away. I'm not sure what else 4 ppl with 500 hp would do but run away, hardly what I would call evidence of a kite comp. Yeah, I won't call Dig's comp a kite comp, because it's obviously not designed for that, more a "dive/snipe the carries while using the disruption to protect yours, then collapse on the enemy frontline". However, due to how the game played out (the way they consistentlt caught Karthus and Ashe not being a threat) they didn't need to keep going with the dives: only deal with Karthus (making their focus easier), then ignore Ashe if you can't get her easily (they got her down but never chased trying to finish her, unless Voli or Singed was already on top of them) and start kiting backward after Zyra disengaged so you can sandwich the enemy between the duo, and the offtanks. I guess, but I don't really see your point. You say after diving/minimizing the threat of Karthus and Ashe, they stop diving. Well of course. Those are the two squishy carries and there's nothing else to dive. There's just no evidence in the picks or the way they initiated every single fight that kiting was part of the Dignitas focus at all. If people want to call tanks with ghost who peel after diving carries some type of kite comp/strat... Sure, whatever. But similar to my problem yesterday with people calling CLG protect the AD comps bad or outdated, it's just a situation where people look at a complicated and fluid comp/playstyle and try to nail it into one box or the other by focusing on certain aspects and ignoring others. Like I could make a great case for Crs having a kite comp with Sona speed up/slow with ult to peel, Renek running frozen mallet to slow Singed, wither for Voli, Ashe with arrow and slows, and a Karthus with wall! Or I could call them an initiate comp, with arrow/Crescendo and then Nasus and Renek diving in for Karthus to follow up damage/control space between the front and back line. Or I could call them a turtle team, to wave clear with Karthus/Ashe/Nasus until lategame and then use their lategame to burn down teamfights with mass CC and AoE. Or I could call them an early game team who focused on rushing a Nasus to 6 for dragon and using TP renek and Requiem to secure early objectives. In reality, it's stupid to try and do that. /endrant | ||
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beefhamburger
United States3962 Posts
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Artok
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Nitan
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Neverhood
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ketchup
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On April 19 2013 10:45 ketchup wrote: That V joke was such a huge stretch by Phreak. Holy hell why would I want to listen to commentary like that. I think the pun thing has run its course. | ||
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ketchup
14521 Posts
On April 19 2013 10:46 onlywonderboy wrote: Show nested quote + On April 19 2013 10:45 ketchup wrote: That V joke was such a huge stretch by Phreak. Holy hell why would I want to listen to commentary like that. I think the pun thing has run its course. Except at least the puns are usually trying to be creative. Man, it must say a lot for this early game for CLG vs Vulcan that I paid attention to the commentary rather than the game itself ![]() | ||
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LaM
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