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Nitan
Profile Joined September 2008
United States3401 Posts
April 19 2013 01:16 GMT
#921
On April 19 2013 10:15 Slow Motion wrote:
It was pretty infuriating as a Crs fan how low Dig got every fight and survived.


Karthus press- Oh wait.
Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself. I am large, I contain multitudes.
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
April 19 2013 01:17 GMT
#922
On April 19 2013 10:12 Nitan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2013 10:11 onlywonderboy wrote:
On April 19 2013 10:10 IshinShishi wrote:
On April 19 2013 10:09 Redox wrote:
On April 19 2013 10:07 Nitan wrote:
Goodbye Cop love~ Hello Cop hate~

Lol indeed. Generally people dont look at more than a few numbers anyway when they hype or hate someone..

I saw the arrows.

You should have watched the prior game where his arrows caught them up when they were behind and pretty much won them the game :p


I am pretty sure you can only judge players by the one game they have just played.

Well, he did miss like 3 important arrows that were not that hard to land and ended up costing CRS those team fights during the mid game.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-19 01:19:01
April 19 2013 01:17 GMT
#923
On April 19 2013 10:15 Slow Motion wrote:
It was pretty infuriating as a Crs fan how low Dig got every fight and survived.

I'm in public and had to contain my frustration. Lots of sighs of disappointment.
On April 19 2013 10:17 IshinShishi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2013 10:12 Nitan wrote:
On April 19 2013 10:11 onlywonderboy wrote:
On April 19 2013 10:10 IshinShishi wrote:
On April 19 2013 10:09 Redox wrote:
On April 19 2013 10:07 Nitan wrote:
Goodbye Cop love~ Hello Cop hate~

Lol indeed. Generally people dont look at more than a few numbers anyway when they hype or hate someone..

I saw the arrows.

You should have watched the prior game where his arrows caught them up when they were behind and pretty much won them the game :p


I am pretty sure you can only judge players by the one game they have just played.

Well, he did miss like 3 important arrows that were not that hard to land and ended up costing CRS those team fights during the mid game.

You're right, he's trash.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
April 19 2013 01:18 GMT
#924
Elementz had such an opportunity for Sona on top of that Karthus ult but instead ... =(
Leeto
Profile Joined August 2007
United States1320 Posts
April 19 2013 01:23 GMT
#925
Dignitas played pretty well around the requiem and arrow though. Most of the fights were initiated when they knew arrow was down. Also the double flip was used a lot to peel for qtpie who had pretty good positioning in all the fights and got off a LOT of autos.
La1
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom659 Posts
April 19 2013 01:23 GMT
#926
Counter Logic Gaming 12-13 4 (-0) W1
Vulcun Command 10-15 5 (-0) W2

this game is so huge, if vulcan win it is 11-15 vs 12-14..
pff
Nitan
Profile Joined September 2008
United States3401 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-19 01:26:57
April 19 2013 01:24 GMT
#927
Go Vulcan. Keep your streak alive.

On April 19 2013 10:18 KissBlade wrote:
Elementz had such an opportunity for Sona on top of that Karthus ult but instead ... =(


Honestly, I felt Elementz's crescendos were actually really good in general that game. It's just that his team didn't have the damage to back them up. Nyjacky just melted and Cop had no farm.
Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself. I am large, I contain multitudes.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 19 2013 01:26 GMT
#928
On April 19 2013 10:13 LaM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2013 10:10 Alaric wrote:
On April 19 2013 10:06 LaM wrote:
Kobe still talking about a Dignitas kite comp when I guarantee you they initiate the next fight, as they have been all game.

EDIT: Lol. What do you know.

EDIT2: LOL. kobe still talking about that as dignitas kiting. lmfao

That's what they do. They use Scarra as the core to catch and burst Karthus, then they start kiting the rest. Cop isn't a threat, so they abuse the slows, roots and flings of Voli/Singed/Zyra to disengage, isolate Renekton/Nasus, and kill them. Just look at how they disengaged bot after they killed Karthus and the inhib tower: everybody running, and if they weren't so low they could keep fighting while backing.

Now, to come back to interesting stuff:
DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGNIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAS!


I don't think thats accurate at all. Every team is going to kite damage dealers, kiting is part of every fight. But I would never call Singed/Voli/Eve diving in and disrupting as kite. I mean, you can call any team/fight kiting because carries kite divers and divers get CC'ed off by tanks/supports, but I think its laughable to call a team who initiated every fight by diving in with ghosted melee champs a kite team.

And the fight at bot you talked about was a dive where they got to low in Karthus defile and ran away. I'm not sure what else 4 ppl with 500 hp would do but run away, hardly what I would call evidence of a kite comp.

Yeah, I won't call Dig's comp a kite comp, because it's obviously not designed for that, more a "dive/snipe the carries while using the disruption to protect yours, then collapse on the enemy frontline". However, due to how the game played out (the way they consistentlt caught Karthus and Ashe not being a threat) they didn't need to keep going with the dives: only deal with Karthus (making their focus easier), then ignore Ashe if you can't get her easily (they got her down but never chased trying to finish her, unless Voli or Singed was already on top of them) and start kiting backward after Zyra disengaged so you can sandwich the enemy between the duo, and the offtanks.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
April 19 2013 01:29 GMT
#929
"We'll just ban Nid"

No Nid ban lol. Trying to bait?
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-19 01:32:28
April 19 2013 01:30 GMT
#930
I hope CLG picks Lux vs this team comp. Trist should help a lot vs. renekton too.

Edit: hazzah!
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
April 19 2013 01:33 GMT
#931
Ryze not a bad pick-up. Can't believe Nid just stayed off the board lol.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
LaM
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States1321 Posts
April 19 2013 01:34 GMT
#932
On April 19 2013 10:26 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2013 10:13 LaM wrote:
On April 19 2013 10:10 Alaric wrote:
On April 19 2013 10:06 LaM wrote:
Kobe still talking about a Dignitas kite comp when I guarantee you they initiate the next fight, as they have been all game.

EDIT: Lol. What do you know.

EDIT2: LOL. kobe still talking about that as dignitas kiting. lmfao

That's what they do. They use Scarra as the core to catch and burst Karthus, then they start kiting the rest. Cop isn't a threat, so they abuse the slows, roots and flings of Voli/Singed/Zyra to disengage, isolate Renekton/Nasus, and kill them. Just look at how they disengaged bot after they killed Karthus and the inhib tower: everybody running, and if they weren't so low they could keep fighting while backing.

Now, to come back to interesting stuff:
DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGNIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAS!


I don't think thats accurate at all. Every team is going to kite damage dealers, kiting is part of every fight. But I would never call Singed/Voli/Eve diving in and disrupting as kite. I mean, you can call any team/fight kiting because carries kite divers and divers get CC'ed off by tanks/supports, but I think its laughable to call a team who initiated every fight by diving in with ghosted melee champs a kite team.

And the fight at bot you talked about was a dive where they got to low in Karthus defile and ran away. I'm not sure what else 4 ppl with 500 hp would do but run away, hardly what I would call evidence of a kite comp.

Yeah, I won't call Dig's comp a kite comp, because it's obviously not designed for that, more a "dive/snipe the carries while using the disruption to protect yours, then collapse on the enemy frontline". However, due to how the game played out (the way they consistentlt caught Karthus and Ashe not being a threat) they didn't need to keep going with the dives: only deal with Karthus (making their focus easier), then ignore Ashe if you can't get her easily (they got her down but never chased trying to finish her, unless Voli or Singed was already on top of them) and start kiting backward after Zyra disengaged so you can sandwich the enemy between the duo, and the offtanks.


I guess, but I don't really see your point. You say after diving/minimizing the threat of Karthus and Ashe, they stop diving. Well of course. Those are the two squishy carries and there's nothing else to dive.

There's just no evidence in the picks or the way they initiated every single fight that kiting was part of the Dignitas focus at all. If people want to call tanks with ghost who peel after diving carries some type of kite comp/strat... Sure, whatever.

But similar to my problem yesterday with people calling CLG protect the AD comps bad or outdated, it's just a situation where people look at a complicated and fluid comp/playstyle and try to nail it into one box or the other by focusing on certain aspects and ignoring others.

Like I could make a great case for Crs having a kite comp with Sona speed up/slow with ult to peel, Renek running frozen mallet to slow Singed, wither for Voli, Ashe with arrow and slows, and a Karthus with wall! Or I could call them an initiate comp, with arrow/Crescendo and then Nasus and Renek diving in for Karthus to follow up damage/control space between the front and back line. Or I could call them a turtle team, to wave clear with Karthus/Ashe/Nasus until lategame and then use their lategame to burn down teamfights with mass CC and AoE. Or I could call them an early game team who focused on rushing a Nasus to 6 for dragon and using TP renek and Requiem to secure early objectives.

In reality, it's stupid to try and do that.

/endrant
Anything is Possible
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
April 19 2013 01:34 GMT
#933
I hope CLG does what they did vs Curse recently where they just flash-crescendo Ryze all day and Vulcan is left with only AD.
Artok
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands2219 Posts
April 19 2013 01:38 GMT
#934
hotshot with ignite, what is this magic
Chun-li since ST
Nitan
Profile Joined September 2008
United States3401 Posts
April 19 2013 01:41 GMT
#935
Wow. That Lux just melted.
Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself. I am large, I contain multitudes.
Neverhood
Profile Joined August 2009
United States5388 Posts
April 19 2013 01:41 GMT
#936
poor chauster lol no blue buffs
Jaedong :D
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
April 19 2013 01:45 GMT
#937
That V joke was such a huge stretch by Phreak. Holy hell why would I want to listen to commentary like that.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
April 19 2013 01:46 GMT
#938
On April 19 2013 10:45 ketchup wrote:
That V joke was such a huge stretch by Phreak. Holy hell why would I want to listen to commentary like that.

I think the pun thing has run its course.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
April 19 2013 01:47 GMT
#939
On April 19 2013 10:46 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2013 10:45 ketchup wrote:
That V joke was such a huge stretch by Phreak. Holy hell why would I want to listen to commentary like that.

I think the pun thing has run its course.


Except at least the puns are usually trying to be creative. Man, it must say a lot for this early game for CLG vs Vulcan that I paid attention to the commentary rather than the game itself
LaM
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States1321 Posts
April 19 2013 01:50 GMT
#940
Really smart by CLG to poke in at the 2nd top tower and pull Vulcan up, if they had backed Vulcan could have rushed dragon after mid.
Anything is Possible
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