EPT[Riot] EU LCS Qualifiers - Page 57
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ex-M5, SK, and ex-CLG.eu have all qualified for EU LCS already. Stop asking where they are. -Neo, 23.01.13 | ||
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Sbrubbles
Brazil5776 Posts
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jpak
United States5045 Posts
On January 27 2013 23:51 MoonBear wrote: Creaton can't play Urgot. That fight just then at Blue Buff. He had a open chance to swap Karthus away from the rest of the team and let everyone go in. He doesn't do it. Karthus sitting there means no one can go in and they all die. And then he uses his swap as a last-gasp desperation try to save himself move. Wtf. Too scared of Zhonya's, I guess. | ||
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Amethyst21
Canada7032 Posts
On January 27 2013 23:51 MoonBear wrote: Creaton can't play Urgot. That fight just then at Blue Buff. He had a open chance to swap Karthus away from the rest of the team and let everyone go in. He doesn't do it. Karthus sitting there means no one can go in and they all die. And then he uses his swap as a last-gasp desperation try to save himself move. Wtf. Pretty much this; the fact that this hasn't been pointed out by the casters is disappointing. | ||
MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
On January 27 2013 23:51 ketchup wrote: I think it's more like the carries(AP/AD) are too pressured to make some plays. They are messing up their positioning due to it. Since MYM keep coming at them with fights, Mill has not adapted properly. It's cause they don't have a plan. When Karthus Flashes into their team for example, it's like they're caught completely unprepared. They should have a plan for everything. Like, ok, we poke around in the lane. Urgot stand on the side. When someone goes in, swap them out. Use Exhaust immediately on X-target. Save Summoners for specific targets instead of panic-spur-of-the-moment-usage. | ||
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MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
Can't Zhonyas Suppression iirc. | ||
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fishinguy
Russian Federation798 Posts
On January 27 2013 23:49 Numy wrote: MFs positioning is also really freaking good. Don't think he's ever been out of position Helps that shen and lee sin doesnt have guaranteed gap closers and a lot of credit should be given to zyra and especially karthus for the great zoning. | ||
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ketchup
14521 Posts
On January 27 2013 23:53 MoonBear wrote: It's cause they don't have a plan. When Karthus Flashes into their team for example, it's like they're caught completely unprepared. They should have a plan for everything. Like, ok, we poke around in the lane. Urgot stand on the side. When someone goes in, swap them out. Use Exhaust immediately on X-target. Save Summoners for specific targets instead of panic-spur-of-the-moment-usage. Agreed, they seemed very sloppy all over. | ||
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jpak
United States5045 Posts
I mean that after the swap, Karthus would Zhonya's right away, buying 2 seconds of time for the rest of the team to collapse around the enemy. Bonus if Karthus has defile active at the time. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On January 27 2013 23:55 jpak wrote: I mean that after the swap, Karthus would Zhonya's right away, buying 2 seconds of time for the rest of the team to collapse around the enemy. Bonus if Karthus has defile active at the time. He means Urgot is off to the side not in the middle of his team so even if Karthus Zhonyas he would be slightly out of position compared to how he was always in the right position in rights. | ||
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
On January 27 2013 23:51 Amethyst21 wrote: I gave Mill a lot of crap in this game, but I mean Makler played really, really well. MYM got the teamfights they wanted with their comp and Millenium didn't know how to react to it. Well considering Mill has been said to be the best eu team, it's pretty normal to be disappointed with their play. | ||
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ketchup
14521 Posts
On January 27 2013 23:54 fishinguy wrote: Helps that shen and lee sin doesnt have guaranteed gap closers and a lot of credit should be given to zyra and especially karthus for the great zoning. But they do have guaranteed gap closers. Anyone who picks Lee Sin and Shen should not be missing these gap closers. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On January 27 2013 23:56 WhiteDog wrote: Well considering Mill has been said to be the best eu team, it's pretty normal to be disappointed with their play. There was also that guy earlier in this thread saying how they could use the money better than Wolves because got better infrastructure and talent etc. There's a ton of hype around the team and so far they haven't delivered. | ||
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Mensol
14536 Posts
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On January 27 2013 23:56 WhiteDog wrote: Well considering Mill has been said to be the best eu team, it's pretty normal to be disappointed with their play. Usually they were said to be best of the rest. Number 4 behind the top 3. And that could very well be true. Its normal that they dont have the same cohesion after 1 month like MYM has after having been together for over a year. Actually seeing it from this point, the fact alone that they can play almost evenly against MYM shows that they have the bigger potential. | ||
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MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
On January 27 2013 23:55 jpak wrote: I mean that after the swap, Karthus would Zhonya's right away, buying 2 seconds of time for the rest of the team to collapse around the enemy. Bonus if Karthus has defile active at the time. Like Numy said, Urgot should be swapping Karthus away from everyone. Like, hide behind a wall, swap Karthus out into the middle of nowhere, Urgot is not suddenly inside the scrum and ready to fight. Buys so much time and lets them get a 4v5. If Karthus tries to Ult, fine, you don't have to put up with everything else and he's going to Ult after he dies anyway and it also gives you a chance to CC the Ult. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On January 27 2013 23:59 Numy wrote: There was also that guy earlier in this thread saying how they could use the money better than Wolves because got better infrastructure and talent etc. There's a ton of hype around the team and so far they haven't delivered. That guy was only talking about the economic issues, not about how good the teams are. Totally different thing. | ||
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
On January 28 2013 00:01 Redox wrote: Usually they were said to be best of the rest. Number 4 behind the top 3. And that could very well be true. Its normal that they dont have the same cohesion after 1 month like MYM has after having been together for over a year. Actually seeing it from this point, the fact alone that they can play almost evenly against MYM shows that they have the bigger potential. No they were said to be the best eu team. sOaz himself said that in an interview just 3 days before the eu qualifier for S3. I'm french, I would love Mill to get into S3, but let's be fair : they really need to step up their games, way too much mistakes in this last game. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On January 28 2013 00:04 WhiteDog wrote: No they were said to be the best eu team. sOaz himself said that in an interview just 3 days before the eu qualifier for S3. I'm french, I would love Mill to get into S3, but let's be fair : they really need to step up their games, way too much mistakes in this last game. Well if you search long enough you will probably always find someone who says that. But I have not seen a single person in this thread who claimed that. Also how can you hold against Millenium what Soaz says about them? its not like that is their fault. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
On January 28 2013 00:05 Redox wrote: Well if you search long enough you will probably always find someone who says that. But I have not seen a single person in this thread who claimed that. Also how can you hold against Millenium what Soaz says about them? its not like that is their fault. Yeah maybe it's just my inner frustrated french talking. | ||
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