EPT[IEM] Katowice Discussion - Page 80
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21689 Posts
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bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
On January 20 2013 23:42 Gorsameth wrote: Is it me or has the stream lost around 100k viewers now. rofl no games and constant stream lag. when the games start they'll be back | ||
Chexx
Korea (South)11232 Posts
On January 20 2013 23:42 Gorsameth wrote: Is it me or has the stream lost around 100k viewers now. rofl before it went down for the first time while the game was on. There were nearly 200k viewers but after that only 120k. Since there is a break now many watch other stuff | ||
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Djin)ftw(
Germany3357 Posts
On January 20 2013 23:30 GregMandel wrote: He played great one game in a BO3, his overall performance wasnt THAT great, as much as it wasnt that bad, it just was not at xPekes level and I dont think Soaz is bad at all, man he's playing against AZB in IEM and he put up a decent fight, but decent is not enough at that level, and that las tgame was really dissapointing after the khazix performance :/ So what is he supposed to do? He plays with eve vs nida. She can harass him because she is ranged, she has sustain, she is just a great laner. So he has to play defensively for most of the time. Plus he is top lane with ignite so he cant roam. What is he gonna do? While it is true that there is no excuse for missing an ult you have to get real, some lanes you just lose. Also you write that xpeke is much better which is just bullshit because you dont know that. xpeke plays mid, soaz top. Do you know what would have happened had they switch roles? Most european teams have very good mids, froggen, alex ich, xpeke (ocelote, lol). So saying that soaz and cyanide and yellowstar are all so bad compared to xpeke is just stupid. You can try to make comparisons between soaz and wickd, kev1n, dyrus and such or maybe to asian top laners (although given the 12 year broodwar experience, because of the different practise schedules that wont work either). Because, to me, all this whine reads like "omg im 1800 ELO but I sit here and write they are bad although im much MUCH worse and omg I compare the top laner with the mid laner although thats stupid and OMG i expect european players to be as good as chinese/south korean players although the latter probably pratise 20, 30% more so all my "arguments" are just invalid but still I dont get tired to point out how bad all these players are"... *snore* | ||
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bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
On January 20 2013 23:44 Djin)ftw( wrote: So what is he supposed to do? He plays with eve vs nida. She can harass him because she is ranged, she has sustain, she is just a great laner. So he has to play defensively for most of the time. Plus he is top lane with ignite so he cant roam. What is he gonna do? While it is true that there is no excuse for missing an ult you have to get real, some lanes you just lose. Also you write that xpeke is much better which is just bullshit because you dont know that. xpeke plays mid, soaz top. Do you know what would have happened had they switch roles? Most european teams have very good mids, froggen, alex ich, xpeke (ocelote, lol). So saying that soaz and cyanide and yellowstar are all so bad compared to xpeke is just stupid. You can try to make comparisons between soaz and wickd, kev1n, dyrus and such or maybe to asian top laners (although given the 12 year broodwar experience, because of the different practise schedules that wont work either). Because, to me, all this whine reads like "omg im 1800 ELO but I sit here and write they are bad although im much MUCH worse and omg I compare the top laner with the mid laner although thats stupid and OMG i expect european players to be as good as chinese/south korean players although the latter probably pratise 20, 30% more so all my "arguments" are just invalid but still I dont get tired to point out how bad all these players are"... *snore* while i agree with some of your points, I don't like that you're making excuses for players. arguing that asian players are better because they practice more is the european players faults. if you are a pro and trying to be the best wont you practice as much as possibly can? | ||
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ToT)OjKa(
Korea (South)2437 Posts
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MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
On January 20 2013 23:40 awha wrote: Im not trying to flame, but dont they test for these kind of things? In all fairness, Riot lost internet during Worlds. It can be pretty hard to stress test when every tournament consistently shatters viewer expectations. And sometimes things are out of your control. Getting Satellite Trucks for backup is also expensive and might be logistically difficult. (Although in the case of Worlds Riot should have definitely done that.) | ||
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bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
On January 20 2013 23:50 MoonBear wrote: In all fairness, Riot lost internet during Worlds. It can be pretty hard to stress test when every tournament consistently shatters viewer expectations. And sometimes things are out of your control. Getting Satellite Trucks for backup is also expensive and might be logistically difficult. (Although in the case of Worlds Riot should have definitely done that.) I thought Riot had those and it was still a problem? | ||
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Vlanitak
Norway3045 Posts
We are just delaying the Semi-Final until the stream is fixed, we don't want you guys to miss a thing! #leagueoflegends #iem #katowice | ||
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Badboyrune
Sweden2247 Posts
On January 20 2013 23:49 ToT)OjKa( wrote: why don't they have chat on the stream? I'm not even a subscriber but sure misses the feels when shit goes down. Can you imagine the chat (in either mode) exploded after xpeke yesterday? Probably because twitch chat is cancer. Pure cancer. If more streamers disabled their chat the world would be a better place. | ||
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GregMandel
France822 Posts
On January 20 2013 23:44 Djin)ftw( wrote: So what is he supposed to do? He plays with eve vs nida. She can harass him because she is ranged, she has sustain, she is just a great laner. So he has to play defensively for most of the time. Plus he is top lane with ignite so he cant roam. What is he gonna do? While it is true that there is no excuse for missing an ult you have to get real, some lanes you just lose. Also you write that xpeke is much better which is just bullshit because you dont know that. xpeke plays mid, soaz top. Do you know what would have happened had they switch roles? Most european teams have very good mids, froggen, alex ich, xpeke (ocelote, lol). So saying that soaz and cyanide and yellowstar are all so bad compared to xpeke is just stupid. You can try to make comparisons between soaz and wickd, kev1n, dyrus and such or maybe to asian top laners (although given the 12 year broodwar experience, because of the different practise schedules that wont work either). Because, to me, all this whine reads like "omg im 1800 ELO but I sit here and write they are bad although im much MUCH worse and omg I compare the top laner with the mid laner although thats stupid and OMG i expect european players to be as good as chinese/south korean players although the latter probably pratise 20, 30% more so all my "arguments" are just invalid but still I dont get tired to point out how bad all these players are"... *snore* You seem to be too butthurt, there's nothing wrong with me saying that Soaz is a worse top laner than xPeke is a mid laner, how is that not correct ? I cant compare people's skill at doing something ? I dont see where i'm wrong, I can say MadLife is a better player than Ocelote, willl I be wrong ? No. So why are you mad ? Step down the aggresion, am I wrong to expect Soaz to be as good in his own role as xPeke is in his ? How am I doing something wrong ? I have high expectations, yes, how does that make me a bad person ? you talk about 1800 elo, but you know what ? i'm not even lvl 30, not because i'm terrible, but because I dont play much, my internet and school schedule doesnt allow me to do so, so what do i do ? I watch streams, and when I see players being really good at what they do, I can only expect their team mates to be as good, but there's sometimes a difference in level between those players I don't even know why you are so aggresive in the first place, but one thing is sure : you have no rgiht to come to me and just be a dick because you disagree with what I said, and I think that everyone, except you, who watched the series can agree with me, Soaz performance as a top laner was lackluster comapred to xPeke"s performance as a mid laner in this best of 3, and even though he isnt terrible nor bad, his level of play was too low and it's partly what cost them the BO3, among many other things. | ||
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Chexx
Korea (South)11232 Posts
On January 20 2013 23:55 Badboyrune wrote: Probably because twitch chat is cancer. Pure cancer. If more streamers disabled their chat the world would be a better place. just look at the nicegametv chat right now T_T | ||
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bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
eat-sex-league | ||
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
On January 20 2013 23:15 CrimsonLotus wrote: gg, xPeke is Korean level. The rest of the team not so much. xPeke is european level. European mids are better than korean mids. The rest of the team is good, don't be a jerk, in a team game, the result is made by the team. | ||
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SHr3DD3r
Pakistan2137 Posts
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DoXa
Switzerland1448 Posts
On January 20 2013 23:49 ToT)OjKa( wrote: why don't they have chat on the stream? I'm not even a subscriber but sure misses the feels when shit goes down. Can you imagine the chat (in either mode) exploded after xpeke yesterday? I think it's pretty good like that. Twitch.tv chat seems to bug out if too many people write things and Snoopeh gives pretty good insight what happens in the game and why it happens oh and the things people write in chat is shit anyway | ||
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MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
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bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
also singed | ||
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Leonite7
Ireland921 Posts
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