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LaM
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States1321 Posts
April 16 2013 21:39 GMT
#641
So I finally caught up on this season thru IG v WE upper bracket games. Just gotta watch Sword beat PE then get smashed by IG and I will be ready for the grand finals. Looking forward to that.
Anything is Possible
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
April 17 2013 00:37 GMT
#642
On April 17 2013 06:01 niukasu1990 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 00:18 Letmelose wrote:
On April 16 2013 23:58 cLutZ wrote:
On April 16 2013 20:35 Letmelose wrote:
On April 16 2013 20:28 AA.spoon wrote:
Why do people think maknoon is a great toplaner?
Every time I see him play he gets outlaned. Now he is even losing vs IG.Kid who is an adc player. Maknoon definately can't compete with expression, shy or other korean toplaners.
I like the jayce+khazix combo from IG. Good poke.


Najin Sword focuses a lot of their plays based on Maknoon. He certainly is capable of carrying the game by himself, but if you watch a lot of their games you'll often notice how Watch babysits the top lane. Maknoon is a top class player, and has been for quite some time, but there are superior top-laners as of now. Maknoon himself admitted that Expession is individually more talented than himself. I personally rate Shy, Ssumday, and Flame ahead of Maknoon currently, and that's just counting the Korean scene.


How can you put Flame ahead of Reapered. Blaze hasn't been the same since that change.


For the very simple reason that Flame has a vastly superior laning phase than Reapered. You could argue that Reapered has more to offer than his laning ability due to his multi-faceted talents, but as a top-laner, there is little doubt for me that Flame is one of the strongest in his position at the moment. CJ Entus Blaze's fall from grace is due to their weak bottom lane and lackluster performances from Helios, which Reapered made up for by popularizing two versus one lane swaps, and basically telling Helios what to do. His individual strengths as a top laner, however, is inferior to Flame in my eyes.

Reapered's strengths as a top-laner is overrated by a lot of people since he won IEM Cologne in my eyes. Long-friggin'-panda did pretty good in that tournament as a top laner, and he is defunct from the professional scene as of today. His strengths lie elsewhere, and that's why CJ Entus Blaze never reached the heights back when Reapered was part of the team.



I remembered one night I was watching zzitai's stream, Helios talked to zzitai and told him he was not as good as before. It seemed that he noticed his problem but he can't improve it.

Where did you watch zzitai's stream?
niukasu1990
Profile Joined July 2012
1007 Posts
April 17 2013 03:02 GMT
#643
On April 17 2013 09:37 canikizu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 06:01 niukasu1990 wrote:
On April 17 2013 00:18 Letmelose wrote:
On April 16 2013 23:58 cLutZ wrote:
On April 16 2013 20:35 Letmelose wrote:
On April 16 2013 20:28 AA.spoon wrote:
Why do people think maknoon is a great toplaner?
Every time I see him play he gets outlaned. Now he is even losing vs IG.Kid who is an adc player. Maknoon definately can't compete with expression, shy or other korean toplaners.
I like the jayce+khazix combo from IG. Good poke.


Najin Sword focuses a lot of their plays based on Maknoon. He certainly is capable of carrying the game by himself, but if you watch a lot of their games you'll often notice how Watch babysits the top lane. Maknoon is a top class player, and has been for quite some time, but there are superior top-laners as of now. Maknoon himself admitted that Expession is individually more talented than himself. I personally rate Shy, Ssumday, and Flame ahead of Maknoon currently, and that's just counting the Korean scene.


How can you put Flame ahead of Reapered. Blaze hasn't been the same since that change.


For the very simple reason that Flame has a vastly superior laning phase than Reapered. You could argue that Reapered has more to offer than his laning ability due to his multi-faceted talents, but as a top-laner, there is little doubt for me that Flame is one of the strongest in his position at the moment. CJ Entus Blaze's fall from grace is due to their weak bottom lane and lackluster performances from Helios, which Reapered made up for by popularizing two versus one lane swaps, and basically telling Helios what to do. His individual strengths as a top laner, however, is inferior to Flame in my eyes.

Reapered's strengths as a top-laner is overrated by a lot of people since he won IEM Cologne in my eyes. Long-friggin'-panda did pretty good in that tournament as a top laner, and he is defunct from the professional scene as of today. His strengths lie elsewhere, and that's why CJ Entus Blaze never reached the heights back when Reapered was part of the team.



I remembered one night I was watching zzitai's stream, Helios talked to zzitai and told him he was not as good as before. It seemed that he noticed his problem but he can't improve it.

Where did you watch zzitai's stream?


Chinese players stream at YY.com
LaM
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States1321 Posts
April 17 2013 03:33 GMT
#644
Anyone know pdd's Diana runes/masteries?
Anything is Possible
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-23 02:01:03
April 23 2013 01:54 GMT
#645
So the finals are tomorrow at 10:00 GMT (+00:00)??

Get hyped????
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
Baffels
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1486 Posts
April 23 2013 03:27 GMT
#646
On April 23 2013 10:54 emperorchampion wrote:
So the finals are tomorrow at 10:00 GMT (+00:00)??

Get hyped????


Yeah crossing my fingers for no technical issues!
ESLAsia
Profile Joined October 2012
Hong Kong218 Posts
April 23 2013 06:46 GMT
#647
In 5 hours the Grand Final will start. The match will be played live from Neo TV Studio.

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1cx227/in_five_hours_the_grand_final_of_the_gigabyte/
http://beta.esl.asia/asia/sc2/masters
-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
April 23 2013 09:20 GMT
#648
ESV TV will be covering the grand finals in just 40 minutes: http://twitch.tv/esvision
'life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery'
how sad that sc2 has no shield battery :(
Acertos
Profile Joined February 2012
France852 Posts
April 23 2013 09:54 GMT
#649
I didn't follow any of the LoL expept EU these last months.
I'm hyped as fuck for this but at the same i hope they aren't as good as everybody say, it would be good for Europe with the all-stars incoming.
Haasts
Profile Joined October 2011
New Zealand4445 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-23 10:23:08
April 23 2013 10:21 GMT
#650
So excited for this!

iG bans: Sona Caitlyn Karthus
WE bans: Diana J4 Twisted Fate

iG picks: Renekton / Varus + Hecarim / Lulu + Malphite
WE picks: Jayce + Elise / Ezreal + Rumble / Blitzcrank
PaniaoftheReef in Path of Exile TotA SSF SC // Lovelin fanclub // GreenTea #1
Artok
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands2219 Posts
April 23 2013 10:21 GMT
#651
On what patch is this?
Chun-li since ST
Haasts
Profile Joined October 2011
New Zealand4445 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-23 10:33:56
April 23 2013 10:30 GMT
#652
WE run Ez + Blitz mid vs Malphite. WE steal blue buff and give theirs to Jayce, who gets more farm bot vs Varus + Lulu compared to Malphite, but loses tower at 5:30.

First blood to Zz1tai's Malphite with a three-man gank top!
PaniaoftheReef in Path of Exile TotA SSF SC // Lovelin fanclub // GreenTea #1
Affenaffe
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany1386 Posts
April 23 2013 10:39 GMT
#653
how could jayce with bluebuff lose tower so fast? did the tower get low when he backed right after getting blue?
i can't believe that
Djin)ftw(
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Germany3357 Posts
April 23 2013 10:40 GMT
#654
not picking cleanse vs malph seems to be the new meta :o
"jk CLG best mindgames using the baron to counterthrow" - boesthius
Haasts
Profile Joined October 2011
New Zealand4445 Posts
April 23 2013 10:43 GMT
#655
Zz1tai beasting it up on Malphite.
PaniaoftheReef in Path of Exile TotA SSF SC // Lovelin fanclub // GreenTea #1
Haasts
Profile Joined October 2011
New Zealand4445 Posts
April 23 2013 10:54 GMT
#656
What an amazing teamfight/dive from iG, wow. Such a good Varus ult.
PaniaoftheReef in Path of Exile TotA SSF SC // Lovelin fanclub // GreenTea #1
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 23 2013 11:00 GMT
#657
caomei got lucky in that dl-esque facecheck.
liftlift > tsm
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-23 11:03:33
April 23 2013 11:02 GMT
#658
IG level baron throws. Hahahaha.
liftlift > tsm
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
April 23 2013 11:03 GMT
#659
iG's team composition is fantastic.

also baron steal :o
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
April 23 2013 11:03 GMT
#660
such a nice steal from clearlove but iG just chases and steamrolls WE
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