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Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9188 Posts
April 10 2013 12:57 GMT
#621
On April 10 2013 21:42 Letmelose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2013 21:28 Dan HH wrote:
On April 10 2013 21:20 Letmelose wrote:
Maknoon did well. I'm not sure if PE is playing like crap, or if Najin Sword is on the upswing.

Aluka is playing terrible as usual, PE can't win against any team with a world class top laner.


How did they defeat TPA?

I'm actually not sure whether TPA is in a massive slump or they just don't care about anything other than GPL at the moment.
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
April 10 2013 13:13 GMT
#622
Well, at least Najin Sword avoided the embarassment of losing against the fourth best team in China. Now off they go to face iG again.
TL+ Member
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
April 10 2013 19:45 GMT
#623
Doing the NA recast of the of the Gigabyte StarsWar today! WE vs iG in a Bo5!

Here is the Reddit thread for it, please check it out!

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1c30sc/2_hours_from_this_post_we_vs_ig_face_off_in_an/
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
April 10 2013 21:24 GMT
#624
On April 10 2013 21:57 Dan HH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2013 21:42 Letmelose wrote:
On April 10 2013 21:28 Dan HH wrote:
On April 10 2013 21:20 Letmelose wrote:
Maknoon did well. I'm not sure if PE is playing like crap, or if Najin Sword is on the upswing.

Aluka is playing terrible as usual, PE can't win against any team with a world class top laner.


How did they defeat TPA?

I'm actually not sure whether TPA is in a massive slump or they just don't care about anything other than GPL at the moment.

My personal feeling is that it's a combination of:
- Stanley's weak 1v2 being exposed further in S3 than S2
- Common mid champion pool focused on assassins/gankers that Toyz isn't suited for
- Loss of Mistake
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AA.spoon
Profile Joined January 2011
Belgium331 Posts
April 11 2013 10:08 GMT
#625
when is PE vs Najin Sword? Was it already played?
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
April 11 2013 11:27 GMT
#626
any VOD for IG vs WE? and spoiler for result?
ESLAsia
Profile Joined October 2012
Hong Kong218 Posts
April 16 2013 08:52 GMT
#627
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1cg5a5/in_just_over_three_hours_the_swl_losers_bracket/

iG vs. Najin Sword tonight (03:00 PST - 06:00 EST - 12:00 CEST - 18:00 SGT - 19:00 KST - 20:00 SYD)


On April 11 2013 20:27 justiceknight wrote:
any VOD for IG vs WE? and spoiler for result?


You can find the previous VODs (including iG vs. WE) at this address : http://www.twitch.tv/eslasia
http://beta.esl.asia/asia/sc2/masters
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
April 16 2013 11:22 GMT
#628
Xiaoxiao gets caught quite often :<
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
AA.spoon
Profile Joined January 2011
Belgium331 Posts
April 16 2013 11:28 GMT
#629
Why do people think maknoon is a great toplaner?
Every time I see him play he gets outlaned. Now he is even losing vs IG.Kid who is an adc player. Maknoon definately can't compete with expression, shy or other korean toplaners.
I like the jayce+khazix combo from IG. Good poke.
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
April 16 2013 11:35 GMT
#630
On April 16 2013 20:28 AA.spoon wrote:
Why do people think maknoon is a great toplaner?
Every time I see him play he gets outlaned. Now he is even losing vs IG.Kid who is an adc player. Maknoon definately can't compete with expression, shy or other korean toplaners.
I like the jayce+khazix combo from IG. Good poke.


Najin Sword focuses a lot of their plays based on Maknoon. He certainly is capable of carrying the game by himself, but if you watch a lot of their games you'll often notice how Watch babysits the top lane. Maknoon is a top class player, and has been for quite some time, but there are superior top-laners as of now. Maknoon himself admitted that Expession is individually more talented than himself. I personally rate Shy, Ssumday, and Flame ahead of Maknoon currently, and that's just counting the Korean scene.
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Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
April 16 2013 12:14 GMT
#631
Game 2 is over already.
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9188 Posts
April 16 2013 12:16 GMT
#632
On April 16 2013 20:28 AA.spoon wrote:
Why do people think maknoon is a great toplaner?
Every time I see him play he gets outlaned. Now he is even losing vs IG.Kid who is an adc player. Maknoon definately can't compete with expression, shy or other korean toplaners.
I like the jayce+khazix combo from IG. Good poke.

Because he speaks English in public and Ssumday, PDD, Expression, etc. don't. Same goes for Locodoco and Reapered.
Don't get me wrong, they're all great players but that one single fact is what differentiates them in the eyes of the western viewers from others that are at least as skilled
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
April 16 2013 12:22 GMT
#633
On April 16 2013 21:16 Dan HH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2013 20:28 AA.spoon wrote:
Why do people think maknoon is a great toplaner?
Every time I see him play he gets outlaned. Now he is even losing vs IG.Kid who is an adc player. Maknoon definately can't compete with expression, shy or other korean toplaners.
I like the jayce+khazix combo from IG. Good poke.

Because he speaks English in public and Ssumday, PDD, Expression, etc. don't. Same goes for Locodoco and Reapered.
Don't get me wrong, they're all great players but that one single fact is what differentiates them in the eyes of the western viewers from others that are at least as skilled


thats right. Nobody else knows how to represent themself.

Illusion misses a lot of stuns with his elise
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
AA.spoon
Profile Joined January 2011
Belgium331 Posts
April 16 2013 13:12 GMT
#634
On April 16 2013 21:16 Dan HH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2013 20:28 AA.spoon wrote:
Why do people think maknoon is a great toplaner?
Every time I see him play he gets outlaned. Now he is even losing vs IG.Kid who is an adc player. Maknoon definately can't compete with expression, shy or other korean toplaners.
I like the jayce+khazix combo from IG. Good poke.

Because he speaks English in public and Ssumday, PDD, Expression, etc. don't. Same goes for Locodoco and Reapered.
Don't get me wrong, they're all great players but that one single fact is what differentiates them in the eyes of the western viewers from others that are at least as skilled


Oh that explains it for loco too.

I love IG. They always come up with some cheesy/uncommon strat. now they are playing pantheon, a champion that in my experience is useless 20+min in the game. Curious what will happen.

foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2337 Posts
April 16 2013 13:32 GMT
#635
How does a pro team not even have dial up quality Internet...
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9188 Posts
April 16 2013 14:44 GMT
#636
Well, that was anticlimactic.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
April 16 2013 14:58 GMT
#637
On April 16 2013 20:35 Letmelose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2013 20:28 AA.spoon wrote:
Why do people think maknoon is a great toplaner?
Every time I see him play he gets outlaned. Now he is even losing vs IG.Kid who is an adc player. Maknoon definately can't compete with expression, shy or other korean toplaners.
I like the jayce+khazix combo from IG. Good poke.


Najin Sword focuses a lot of their plays based on Maknoon. He certainly is capable of carrying the game by himself, but if you watch a lot of their games you'll often notice how Watch babysits the top lane. Maknoon is a top class player, and has been for quite some time, but there are superior top-laners as of now. Maknoon himself admitted that Expession is individually more talented than himself. I personally rate Shy, Ssumday, and Flame ahead of Maknoon currently, and that's just counting the Korean scene.


How can you put Flame ahead of Reapered. Blaze hasn't been the same since that change.
Freeeeeeedom
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
April 16 2013 15:08 GMT
#638
The fact that Blaze WAS better does not mean that Flame hasn't improved, nor does it mean that Reapered stayed on top form.
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Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
April 16 2013 15:18 GMT
#639
On April 16 2013 23:58 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2013 20:35 Letmelose wrote:
On April 16 2013 20:28 AA.spoon wrote:
Why do people think maknoon is a great toplaner?
Every time I see him play he gets outlaned. Now he is even losing vs IG.Kid who is an adc player. Maknoon definately can't compete with expression, shy or other korean toplaners.
I like the jayce+khazix combo from IG. Good poke.


Najin Sword focuses a lot of their plays based on Maknoon. He certainly is capable of carrying the game by himself, but if you watch a lot of their games you'll often notice how Watch babysits the top lane. Maknoon is a top class player, and has been for quite some time, but there are superior top-laners as of now. Maknoon himself admitted that Expession is individually more talented than himself. I personally rate Shy, Ssumday, and Flame ahead of Maknoon currently, and that's just counting the Korean scene.


How can you put Flame ahead of Reapered. Blaze hasn't been the same since that change.


For the very simple reason that Flame has a vastly superior laning phase than Reapered. You could argue that Reapered has more to offer than his laning ability due to his multi-faceted talents, but as a top-laner, there is little doubt for me that Flame is one of the strongest in his position at the moment. CJ Entus Blaze's fall from grace is due to their weak bottom lane and lackluster performances from Helios, which Reapered made up for by popularizing two versus one lane swaps, and basically telling Helios what to do. His individual strengths as a top laner, however, is inferior to Flame in my eyes.

Reapered's strengths as a top-laner is overrated by a lot of people since he won IEM Cologne in my eyes. Long-friggin'-panda did pretty good in that tournament as a top laner, and he is defunct from the professional scene as of today. His strengths lie elsewhere, and that's why CJ Entus Blaze never reached the heights back when Reapered was part of the team.
TL+ Member
niukasu1990
Profile Joined July 2012
1007 Posts
April 16 2013 21:01 GMT
#640
On April 17 2013 00:18 Letmelose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2013 23:58 cLutZ wrote:
On April 16 2013 20:35 Letmelose wrote:
On April 16 2013 20:28 AA.spoon wrote:
Why do people think maknoon is a great toplaner?
Every time I see him play he gets outlaned. Now he is even losing vs IG.Kid who is an adc player. Maknoon definately can't compete with expression, shy or other korean toplaners.
I like the jayce+khazix combo from IG. Good poke.


Najin Sword focuses a lot of their plays based on Maknoon. He certainly is capable of carrying the game by himself, but if you watch a lot of their games you'll often notice how Watch babysits the top lane. Maknoon is a top class player, and has been for quite some time, but there are superior top-laners as of now. Maknoon himself admitted that Expession is individually more talented than himself. I personally rate Shy, Ssumday, and Flame ahead of Maknoon currently, and that's just counting the Korean scene.


How can you put Flame ahead of Reapered. Blaze hasn't been the same since that change.


For the very simple reason that Flame has a vastly superior laning phase than Reapered. You could argue that Reapered has more to offer than his laning ability due to his multi-faceted talents, but as a top-laner, there is little doubt for me that Flame is one of the strongest in his position at the moment. CJ Entus Blaze's fall from grace is due to their weak bottom lane and lackluster performances from Helios, which Reapered made up for by popularizing two versus one lane swaps, and basically telling Helios what to do. His individual strengths as a top laner, however, is inferior to Flame in my eyes.

Reapered's strengths as a top-laner is overrated by a lot of people since he won IEM Cologne in my eyes. Long-friggin'-panda did pretty good in that tournament as a top laner, and he is defunct from the professional scene as of today. His strengths lie elsewhere, and that's why CJ Entus Blaze never reached the heights back when Reapered was part of the team.



I remembered one night I was watching zzitai's stream, Helios talked to zzitai and told him he was not as good as before. It seemed that he noticed his problem but he can't improve it.
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