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onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
November 04 2012 23:09 GMT
#3681
Hmm Captain Jack on Graves. I am interested
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 04 2012 23:09 GMT
#3682
YES CPTJACK GRAVES
Glorious SEA doto
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
November 04 2012 23:09 GMT
#3683
On November 05 2012 08:06 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 07:59 ketchup wrote:
Gah, the casters calling this an extended series rule rather than what it actually is. It's just double elimination!

No, it is extended series. It'd be triple elimination for blaze if they lose in the end, but only double if NJN loses.


No? Blaze has already lost a game to Najin earlier. So that was their one loss. Najin just dropped a series to Blaze.

So both teams have lost one series. So now whoever wins this is the champion. Whoever loses has lost twice.
foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2337 Posts
November 04 2012 23:10 GMT
#3684
On November 05 2012 07:53 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 07:50 Doctorbeat wrote:
On November 05 2012 07:48 Perplex wrote:
On November 05 2012 07:46 Doctorbeat wrote:
On November 05 2012 07:45 Redox wrote:
Seriously the late game off Blaze is infuriating if you want them to win. Wrong decisions, subpar teamfights, timings off.


Cpt Jacks build is really weird too. Maybe he wants all the movement speed to kite skarner, but he has QSS. A BT would help him out way more imo.


I agree, bloodthirster is so good on vayne, and he really needs it this game. He just got bullied out of that fight instantly and couldn't recover.


BT isn't just about the lifesteal. IE buffed crits scale really hard with AD.

Ideally my end game Vayne would be 2PD, BT, IE, QSS/GA and another PD or a LW.


PD is so much more damage than LW.

Pros have an obsession with LW, but damage wise, its only really ideal on like Cait and Ashe.


This is just wrong. With LW armour pen alone, at 100 armour you deal 20% more damage, 200 armour - 26%, 300 armour - 30%. Then add on top of that 40 bonus AD.
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
November 04 2012 23:12 GMT
#3685
Graves is the most boring, standard AD carry out there lol. What's there to be excited about?
Retvrn to Forvms
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
November 04 2012 23:13 GMT
#3686
On November 05 2012 08:12 Chrispy wrote:
Graves is the most boring, standard AD carry out there lol. What's there to be excited about?


I wouldn't consider him to be the most standard AD carry. He's really bursty. I think that Kog, Caitlyn, and Vayne embody what people think of when they think of "AD carry," a lot more than Graves. He is boring though and I think it's funny that he's Cpt Jack's "signature champ."
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
November 04 2012 23:14 GMT
#3687
On November 05 2012 08:12 Chrispy wrote:
Graves is the most boring, standard AD carry out there lol. What's there to be excited about?

Captain Jack plays a mean Graves and he hasn't played it yet this tournament.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
November 04 2012 23:15 GMT
#3688
On November 05 2012 08:12 Chrispy wrote:
Graves is the most boring, standard AD carry out there lol. What's there to be excited about?

It's just that you saw too many bad Graves :p
The legend of Darien lives on
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 04 2012 23:15 GMT
#3689
On November 05 2012 08:13 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 08:12 Chrispy wrote:
Graves is the most boring, standard AD carry out there lol. What's there to be excited about?


I wouldn't consider him to be the most standard AD carry. He's really bursty. I think that Kog, Caitlyn, and Vayne embody what people think of when they think of "AD carry," a lot more than Graves. He is boring though and I think it's funny that he's Cpt Jack's "signature champ."

Koreans always make graves exciting since they always dive in deeper than any other AD on graves.
Glorious SEA doto
Wrath 2.1
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany880 Posts
November 04 2012 23:15 GMT
#3690
On November 05 2012 08:12 Chrispy wrote:
Graves is the most boring, standard AD carry out there lol. What's there to be excited about?

this.

At least we see Watch's Noc again.
The tigers of wrath are wiser than the horses of instruction.
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
November 04 2012 23:15 GMT
#3691
On November 05 2012 08:10 foxmeep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 07:53 cLutZ wrote:
On November 05 2012 07:50 Doctorbeat wrote:
On November 05 2012 07:48 Perplex wrote:
On November 05 2012 07:46 Doctorbeat wrote:
On November 05 2012 07:45 Redox wrote:
Seriously the late game off Blaze is infuriating if you want them to win. Wrong decisions, subpar teamfights, timings off.


Cpt Jacks build is really weird too. Maybe he wants all the movement speed to kite skarner, but he has QSS. A BT would help him out way more imo.


I agree, bloodthirster is so good on vayne, and he really needs it this game. He just got bullied out of that fight instantly and couldn't recover.


BT isn't just about the lifesteal. IE buffed crits scale really hard with AD.

Ideally my end game Vayne would be 2PD, BT, IE, QSS/GA and another PD or a LW.


PD is so much more damage than LW.

Pros have an obsession with LW, but damage wise, its only really ideal on like Cait and Ashe.


This is just wrong. With LW armour pen alone, at 100 armour you deal 20% more damage, 200 armour - 26%, 300 armour - 30%. Then add on top of that 40 bonus AD.


Depends on champions:

http://www.reignofgaming.net/blogs/a-different-view/gentleman-gustaf/21273-yelling-about-last-whisper

LW isn't as strong on Vayne/Kog/Corki.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
November 04 2012 23:16 GMT
#3692
Lol TF has like 400 HP and probably 15 armour, y dey send him there?
Retvrn to Forvms
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
November 04 2012 23:16 GMT
#3693
On November 05 2012 08:09 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 08:06 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On November 05 2012 07:59 ketchup wrote:
Gah, the casters calling this an extended series rule rather than what it actually is. It's just double elimination!

No, it is extended series. It'd be triple elimination for blaze if they lose in the end, but only double if NJN loses.


No? Blaze has already lost a game to Najin earlier. So that was their one loss. Najin just dropped a series to Blaze.

So both teams have lost one series. So now whoever wins this is the champion. Whoever loses has lost twice.

Do they not have the same format as sc2 and the score is reset every set?
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-04 23:17:26
November 04 2012 23:16 GMT
#3694
Derp, double post.

These lanes are weird.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
November 04 2012 23:18 GMT
#3695
makoon 8 cs wtf
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
November 04 2012 23:18 GMT
#3696
On November 05 2012 08:16 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 08:09 overt wrote:
On November 05 2012 08:06 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On November 05 2012 07:59 ketchup wrote:
Gah, the casters calling this an extended series rule rather than what it actually is. It's just double elimination!

No, it is extended series. It'd be triple elimination for blaze if they lose in the end, but only double if NJN loses.


No? Blaze has already lost a game to Najin earlier. So that was their one loss. Najin just dropped a series to Blaze.

So both teams have lost one series. So now whoever wins this is the champion. Whoever loses has lost twice.

Do they not have the same format as sc2 and the score is reset every set?


There is no extended series in League like there is in SC2.

In the grand finals for League at MLG the team that hasn't lost a series needs to win one bo3 to win. The team that came from loser's bracket has to win two bo3s.

So even though Najin 2-0'd them and Blaze took that last series 2-1 the score is currently 0-0 in this new bo3 instead of 3-2 in a typical MLG extended series.
misirlou
Profile Joined June 2010
Portugal3300 Posts
November 04 2012 23:18 GMT
#3697
On November 05 2012 08:16 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 08:09 overt wrote:
On November 05 2012 08:06 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On November 05 2012 07:59 ketchup wrote:
Gah, the casters calling this an extended series rule rather than what it actually is. It's just double elimination!

No, it is extended series. It'd be triple elimination for blaze if they lose in the end, but only double if NJN loses.


No? Blaze has already lost a game to Najin earlier. So that was their one loss. Najin just dropped a series to Blaze.

So both teams have lost one series. So now whoever wins this is the champion. Whoever loses has lost twice.

Do they not have the same format as sc2 and the score is reset every set?


on the open bracket they keep the score of last bo3 and play a bo7. on the finals they reset the score and play a double eliminations (the guy who comes from winers only needs to win one set)
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-04 23:21:22
November 04 2012 23:19 GMT
#3698
Wow horrible trade. Maknoon has probably gotten a boatload of exp off that kill.

A thing to notice is that Blaze takes the turret of which lane they want to roam mid game. This game it's TF. Very nice strategy.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
November 04 2012 23:21 GMT
#3699
If only Karthus had his ult ha
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
November 04 2012 23:21 GMT
#3700
At least this has been a harsh lesson in why you can't lane vs AD + Support without armour seals at the very least.
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
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