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Keep the rage to a minimum. This includes wait times between games, music, and balance.

Fair warning to all.
oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
October 04 2012 19:05 GMT
#1421
On October 05 2012 04:02 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 04:00 TheKefka wrote:
On October 05 2012 03:58 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
To the people mentioning CLG's passive play... they blew several flashes early on before minions even spawned. This caused them to play passive in lane, start losing out on cs, and simply never recover. It's tough to really get back on track in that scenario w/ mundo as your jungle.

That's like the 13th reason in a line of importance why clg got stomped lol
[image loading]


Their lack of cs and objective control from being behind is what put them further behind as the game progressed. That was all a symptom of their early problems. However, feel free to make your list of 12 things that were more important.

I doubt there is 12 things, but basically everything went bad for CLG that game.
Haasts
Profile Joined October 2011
New Zealand4445 Posts
October 04 2012 19:06 GMT
#1422
On October 05 2012 04:04 DragoonTT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 04:00 3 Lions wrote:
On October 05 2012 03:58 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
To the people mentioning CLG's passive play... they blew several flashes early on before minions even spawned. This caused them to play passive in lane, start losing out on cs, and simply never recover. It's tough to really get back on track in that scenario w/ mundo as your jungle.

Yes, CLG's picks were actually pretty solid imo. Its just that after the flashes lvl 1 they had no presence in lane or throughout jungle whatsoever, resulting in passive play and lost lanes.

CLG had better lanes on every lane, but Hotshot and Jiji lost Flashes at level one. No ganks, and mid has to play extra carefully, not abusing Vladimir's weak earlygame. Yorick could get blue, so Diana can't just smash him into the tower and slowly run him out of mana. Graves/Lulu pushed bot, and Corki expertly froze it. Consequence: early game lost instantly for CLG.

Edit: > 400k viewers on english riot streams, ~25k on Garena. Not even counting Korean, Chinese and minor european streams. Wow.


Alistar's double pinks clearing away all of Lulu's wards had quite an impact on bot/the blue invade, too.
PaniaoftheReef in Path of Exile TotA SSF SC // Lovelin fanclub // GreenTea #1
MidKnight
Profile Joined December 2008
Lithuania884 Posts
October 04 2012 19:06 GMT
#1423
On October 05 2012 03:57 Seuss wrote:
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On October 05 2012 03:55 Gorsameth wrote:
I dont see why people are so confused by CLG.NA. They have not been practicing. They kept streaming soloQ. even going as far as to do a minimum of 8 hours a day per person. This is TERRIBLE practice for the biggest tournament of your life.


I was making this point to a friend of mine. The NA scene is currently torn between conflicting priorities. TSM/CLG et al make megabucks streaming all the time, but being an entertaining streamer is fairly exclusive with the sort of practice/drilling/strategizing that's required to be competitive on the world stage.


Yeah, they aren't pro LoL players, they are pro LoL streamers at this point. Which is arguably even more profitable and safe than trying to win big tournaments.. Whatever works for them, I suppose. If there's a big enough fanbase it doesn't matter if your content is good (I can draw parallels to big Youtube "let's play"ers like Tobuscus or Pewdiepie), you can make a pretty good living doing that.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 04 2012 19:07 GMT
#1424
On October 05 2012 04:05 Dandel Ion wrote:
lol everytime wheat is on the stage, the audible "I LOVE YOU WHEAT" from some guy in the audience.


Probably his son imo.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Nabes
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1800 Posts
October 04 2012 19:07 GMT
#1425
Europe is the only chance we got against Asia ;_;
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
October 04 2012 19:07 GMT
#1426
how come the crowd looks so empty?

i thought tickets were sold out for the playoffs. i think they sold out before the championships did.
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9246 Posts
October 04 2012 19:07 GMT
#1427
I know it's not the best time but still the crowd is so tiny, I've seen minor european lans with more people than that. Not to mention the OGN spring final, Taiwan & EU regionals which all had 5k+ in the crowd.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 04 2012 19:07 GMT
#1428
On October 05 2012 04:02 Fusilero wrote:
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On October 05 2012 04:02 MrMercuG wrote:
On October 05 2012 04:00 wei2coolman wrote:
if clg plays like that again, they're gunna lose a fan...

that was so badly played out. what have they been doing after regional? They've been too busy solo queuing and streaming, rather than scrimming. I mean seriously, they have fucking gaming house, and CLG.eu to scrim with. they also have clg.black to play against as well.

embarrassing performance. Should be ashamed imo.


Probably had to much fun in their new gaming house?

Giant frat houses have poor win rates in esports.

Curse improved quite a bit when they were living in Hubert's million dollar apartment. TSM was winning every lan while rooming up in NY house (though they did have weak competition)
liftlift > tsm
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-04 19:08:18
October 04 2012 19:07 GMT
#1429
On October 05 2012 04:02 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 04:00 TheKefka wrote:
On October 05 2012 03:58 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
To the people mentioning CLG's passive play... they blew several flashes early on before minions even spawned. This caused them to play passive in lane, start losing out on cs, and simply never recover. It's tough to really get back on track in that scenario w/ mundo as your jungle.

That's like the 13th reason in a line of importance why clg got stomped lol
[image loading]


Their lack of cs and objective control from being behind is what put them further behind as the game progressed. That was all a symptom of their early problems. However, feel free to make your list of 12 things that were more important.

The ones that blew flash were cassio and mundo.Mid wasn't subjected to any jungle pressure early on at all,matter of fact jiji was trading with vlad constantly.
Mundo just runs around and farms early,not like he's going to suddenly flash and kill someone early on.
CLG lost because bot lane got crushed and when Dlift gets crushed CLG looses.
Not to mention the countless times someone on clg gets caught.
Cackle™
SuperFanBoy
Profile Joined June 2011
New Zealand1068 Posts
October 04 2012 19:08 GMT
#1430
If day9 started casting LoL, my life would be complete.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 04 2012 19:08 GMT
#1431
On October 05 2012 04:07 kainzero wrote:
how come the crowd looks so empty?

i thought tickets were sold out for the playoffs. i think they sold out before the championships did.


People get up in between games. You're planning to watch 12 hours of LoL, you really want to be at your seats all day?
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
October 04 2012 19:09 GMT
#1432
The dude in the hat makes me dislike SK Gaming.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Leonite7
Profile Joined July 2011
Ireland921 Posts
October 04 2012 19:09 GMT
#1433
DAT SK GANGNAM STYLE
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
October 04 2012 19:09 GMT
#1434
yellow star aka kim bora aka Psy from sk gaming
StateAlchemist
Profile Joined January 2011
France1946 Posts
October 04 2012 19:09 GMT
#1435
On October 05 2012 04:08 SuperFanBoy wrote:
If day9 started casting LoL, my life would be complete.


No, just no
You cant play monobattles in LoL.
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
October 04 2012 19:09 GMT
#1436
Such weak cheers for SK
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
October 04 2012 19:09 GMT
#1437
has anyone a rough rundown on viewers? about 250k on twitch, but cant find where own3d displays the numbers. its also streamed on a shitton of other niche portals and chinese television?
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
October 04 2012 19:09 GMT
#1438
Eeew, I got home just in time to watch SK.

...
This crowd sucks.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
October 04 2012 19:09 GMT
#1439
SK about to get dumped on
Affenaffe
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany1386 Posts
October 04 2012 19:09 GMT
#1440
On October 05 2012 04:05 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 04:01 HazMat wrote:
Can we not completely shit on CLG for losing? I don't like them either but don't shit talk them about not caring and whatnot because they played bad their first game.

the problem wasn't just that they played poorly, it's that they're making mistakes that they made back in regionals. there was no improvement at all in their play. jiji still plays passive as fuck, he's like the only ap mid in the pro-scene that isn't confident in 1v1ing the enemy mid. he only gets kills when it's a teamfight, or obvious 2v1 fight that they can win. hsgg played full derp entire game, knew botlane getting camped, didn't really do anything all game, fail ganked top more times than i can count, didn't offer any botlane support. Only got 1 decent gank from super greedy ass alistar trying to dive onto Cass.

chauster probably hte only one not derping that entire game, had very awesome ulti usage, and was able to kite really well.


also felt that chauster did some clutch moves
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