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Keep the rage to a minimum. This includes wait times between games, music, and balance.

Fair warning to all.
MrMercuG
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands2389 Posts
October 04 2012 19:02 GMT
#1401
On October 05 2012 04:00 wei2coolman wrote:
if clg plays like that again, they're gunna lose a fan...

that was so badly played out. what have they been doing after regional? They've been too busy solo queuing and streaming, rather than scrimming. I mean seriously, they have fucking gaming house, and CLG.eu to scrim with. they also have clg.black to play against as well.

embarrassing performance. Should be ashamed imo.


Probably had to much fun in their new gaming house?
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
October 04 2012 19:02 GMT
#1402
On October 05 2012 04:00 Jamial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 03:52 Doctorbeat wrote:
Wow CLG surrenders.

Well that's it for CLG.na

Byebye and cya in S3.


I hope not. HSGG is a douche. If they lose him, maybe I'll start rooting for them. Otherwise, good game from iG in the end, deserved win. Skarner op!


He owns the team and has an ego the size of a planet so that ain't happening.
Remember Violet.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
October 04 2012 19:02 GMT
#1403
On October 05 2012 04:01 monkh wrote:
I thought the lol community hated Twitch and loved own3d? why does the twitch stream have 250k and own3d only has 90k.

Twitch is the default stream offered by Riot.
Thats pretty much it.
Off-season = best season
oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-04 19:03:07
October 04 2012 19:02 GMT
#1404
On October 05 2012 04:01 HazMat wrote:
Can we not completely shit on CLG for losing? I don't like them either but don't shit talk them about not caring and whatnot because they played bad their first game.

I don't know why people would say they don't care when its finals, and CLG did get a little stomped.

holy fuck 230k viewers, and it was at 250k..wow. PLAY ADS FOR BIG BUCKS! lol
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
October 04 2012 19:02 GMT
#1405
On October 05 2012 04:02 MrMercuG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 04:00 wei2coolman wrote:
if clg plays like that again, they're gunna lose a fan...

that was so badly played out. what have they been doing after regional? They've been too busy solo queuing and streaming, rather than scrimming. I mean seriously, they have fucking gaming house, and CLG.eu to scrim with. they also have clg.black to play against as well.

embarrassing performance. Should be ashamed imo.


Probably had to much fun in their new gaming house?

Giant frat houses have poor win rates in esports.
Glorious SEA doto
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
October 04 2012 19:02 GMT
#1406
On October 05 2012 03:57 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 03:55 Gorsameth wrote:
I dont see why people are so confused by CLG.NA. They have not been practicing. They kept streaming soloQ. even going as far as to do a minimum of 8 hours a day per person. This is TERRIBLE practice for the biggest tournament of your life.


I was making this point to a friend of mine. The NA scene is currently torn between conflicting priorities. TSM/CLG et al make megabucks streaming all the time, but being an entertaining streamer is fairly exclusive with the sort of practice/drilling/strategizing that's required to be competitive on the world stage.


Part of CLG's reason probably involved the lack of TSM streamers over these same 2 weeks. CLG streams in general lost a lot of viewers over the last few months when they were in Korea and couldn't stream at good times for the NA audience. They trade off doing well at WC for gaining back viewers and maybe stealing some from TSM. This seems more like a business decision than a competition decision, meaning CLG.na didn't think they had a chance here and thought they would make the best out of it.
ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
October 04 2012 19:02 GMT
#1407
On October 05 2012 04:00 TheKefka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 03:58 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
To the people mentioning CLG's passive play... they blew several flashes early on before minions even spawned. This caused them to play passive in lane, start losing out on cs, and simply never recover. It's tough to really get back on track in that scenario w/ mundo as your jungle.

That's like the 13th reason in a line of importance why clg got stomped lol
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Their lack of cs and objective control from being behind is what put them further behind as the game progressed. That was all a symptom of their early problems. However, feel free to make your list of 12 things that were more important.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-04 19:03:45
October 04 2012 19:03 GMT
#1408
On October 05 2012 04:01 monkh wrote:
I thought the lol community hated Twitch and loved own3d? why does the twitch stream have 250k and own3d only has 90k.




twitch improved their service quality and bound some good streamers to them by sponsoring.
yazu
Profile Joined September 2010
United States255 Posts
October 04 2012 19:03 GMT
#1409
Yea its becoming painful to even watch them play anymore. It's almost so painful to watch that I might have to start rooting for TSM.
g.cuisine
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
October 04 2012 19:03 GMT
#1410
On October 05 2012 04:02 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 04:00 Jamial wrote:
On October 05 2012 03:52 Doctorbeat wrote:
Wow CLG surrenders.

Well that's it for CLG.na

Byebye and cya in S3.


I hope not. HSGG is a douche. If they lose him, maybe I'll start rooting for them. Otherwise, good game from iG in the end, deserved win. Skarner op!


He owns the team and has an ego the size of a planet so that ain't happening.

Personality is the main reason I don't care for TSM. Oddone and Chaox are fine, but the rest of them just annoy me.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
October 04 2012 19:03 GMT
#1411
On October 05 2012 04:03 yazu wrote:
Yea its becoming painful to even watch them play anymore. It's almost so painful to watch that I might have to start rooting for TSM.

Cheer for sword all glory to the MAN TOSS.
Glorious SEA doto
Perchloric
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil163 Posts
October 04 2012 19:03 GMT
#1412
Dman finally!
gyth
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
657 Posts
October 04 2012 19:03 GMT
#1413
On October 05 2012 03:57 Seuss wrote:
TSM/CLG et al make megabucks streaming all the time, but being an entertaining streamer is fairly exclusive with the sort of practice/drilling/strategizing that's required to be competitive on the world stage.

I think that is what Dyrus means by it being a hassle.
The plural of anecdote is not data.
DragoonTT
Profile Joined April 2012
3398 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-04 19:05:04
October 04 2012 19:04 GMT
#1414
On October 05 2012 04:00 3 Lions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 03:58 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
To the people mentioning CLG's passive play... they blew several flashes early on before minions even spawned. This caused them to play passive in lane, start losing out on cs, and simply never recover. It's tough to really get back on track in that scenario w/ mundo as your jungle.

Yes, CLG's picks were actually pretty solid imo. Its just that after the flashes lvl 1 they had no presence in lane or throughout jungle whatsoever, resulting in passive play and lost lanes.

CLG had better lanes on every lane, but Hotshot and Jiji lost Flashes at level one. No ganks, and mid has to play extra carefully, not abusing Vladimir's weak earlygame. Yorick could get blue, so Diana can't just smash him into the tower and slowly run him out of mana. Graves/Lulu pushed bot, and Corki expertly froze it. Consequence: early game lost instantly for CLG.

Edit: > 400k viewers on english riot streams, ~25k on Garena. Not even counting Korean, Chinese and minor european streams. Wow.
SuperFanBoy
Profile Joined June 2011
New Zealand1068 Posts
October 04 2012 19:04 GMT
#1415
Frost + iG to make it out of the group.
MrMercuG
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands2389 Posts
October 04 2012 19:04 GMT
#1416
On October 05 2012 04:03 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 04:03 yazu wrote:
Yea its becoming painful to even watch them play anymore. It's almost so painful to watch that I might have to start rooting for TSM.

Cheer for sword all glory to the MAN TOSS.


MAKNOOONNNNN!!!!
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
October 04 2012 19:05 GMT
#1417
On October 05 2012 04:04 MrMercuG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 04:03 Fusilero wrote:
On October 05 2012 04:03 yazu wrote:
Yea its becoming painful to even watch them play anymore. It's almost so painful to watch that I might have to start rooting for TSM.

Cheer for sword all glory to the MAN TOSS.


MAKNOOONNNNN!!!!

SWORD IS TOO MANLY FOR THESE SCRUB TEAMS, BOW DOWN ALL YOU NERDS.
Glorious SEA doto
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 04 2012 19:05 GMT
#1418
On October 05 2012 04:01 HazMat wrote:
Can we not completely shit on CLG for losing? I don't like them either but don't shit talk them about not caring and whatnot because they played bad their first game.

the problem wasn't just that they played poorly, it's that they're making mistakes that they made back in regionals. there was no improvement at all in their play. jiji still plays passive as fuck, he's like the only ap mid in the pro-scene that isn't confident in 1v1ing the enemy mid. he only gets kills when it's a teamfight, or obvious 2v1 fight that they can win. hsgg played full derp entire game, knew botlane getting camped, didn't really do anything all game, fail ganked top more times than i can count, didn't offer any botlane support. Only got 1 decent gank from super greedy ass alistar trying to dive onto Cass.

chauster probably hte only one not derping that entire game, had very awesome ulti usage, and was able to kite really well.
liftlift > tsm
Kronen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States732 Posts
October 04 2012 19:05 GMT
#1419
please please!! get rid of phreak and let wheat cast!! Oooh for the love of saint mary...
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
October 04 2012 19:05 GMT
#1420
lol everytime wheat is on the stage, the audible "I LOVE YOU WHEAT" from some guy in the audience.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
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