• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 11:11
CET 17:11
KST 01:11
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets0$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)12Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns7[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 103SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1822
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns Spontaneous hotkey change zerg Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18
Tourneys
$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) WardiTV Winter Cup WardiTV Mondays SC2 AI Tournament 2026 OSC Season 13 World Championship
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes
Brood War
General
I would like to say something about StarCraft Potential ASL qualifier breakthroughs? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion StarCraft & BroodWar Campaign Speedrun Quest
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 SLON Grand Finals – Season 2
Strategy
Game Theory for Starcraft Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Mechabellum Beyond All Reason Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced
Blogs
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Physical Exercise (HIIT) Bef…
TrAiDoS
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1243 users

[MLG] Spring Championship 2012 - Page 79

Forum Index > LoL Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 77 78 79 80 81 163 Next
flying-egg
Profile Joined April 2011
10 Posts
June 10 2012 17:32 GMT
#1561
On June 11 2012 02:28 Beyonder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 02:27 flying-egg wrote:
the lol streams are just black.. for like 15 minutes now... anyone else got this problem?

I cleard the stream (X right top) and then dragged stream 2 back in through the box right top of the window >_> Then it worked


lol, clg.na gonna get ROLLED. YOu cant play like this when your jungle sucks imo



didnt work for me...

Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
June 10 2012 17:33 GMT
#1562
Graves 50 cs ahead of Renekton 10 minutes in.
Zero fighting.
PardonYou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1360 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-10 17:34:49
June 10 2012 17:34 GMT
#1563
On June 11 2012 02:33 Jaksiel wrote:
Graves 50 cs ahead of Renekton 10 minutes in.

I'm comparing him to Yorick still since they have similar lanes.
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
June 10 2012 17:36 GMT
#1564
On June 11 2012 02:34 NexRex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 02:33 Jaksiel wrote:
Graves 50 cs ahead of Renekton 10 minutes in.

I'm comparing him to Yorick still since they have similar lanes.


If you prefer, Graves is also 20 cs ahead of Corki (although Yorick just died again). If both Renekton and Yorick get shut down, that's advantage to CLG.NA, right?
Zero fighting.
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
June 10 2012 17:37 GMT
#1565
On June 11 2012 02:36 Jaksiel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 02:34 NexRex wrote:
On June 11 2012 02:33 Jaksiel wrote:
Graves 50 cs ahead of Renekton 10 minutes in.

I'm comparing him to Yorick still since they have similar lanes.


If you prefer, Graves is also 20 cs ahead of Corki (although Yorick just died again). If both Renekton and Yorick get shut down, that's advantage to CLG.NA, right?

Yep, yorick more useful if not farmed I think. Ulti ftw!

But they also greatly sacrifice dragon control like this.. 2 players top means almost free dragons for CLG.EU >_>
Moderator
triangle
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3803 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-10 17:38:09
June 10 2012 17:37 GMT
#1566
I think shen should camp top and just feed graves, just like noc is camping bot to feed corki :/

Edit - guess they didn't need it lol.
Also known as waterfall / w4terfall
PardonYou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1360 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-10 17:39:04
June 10 2012 17:37 GMT
#1567
On June 11 2012 02:36 Jaksiel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 02:34 NexRex wrote:
On June 11 2012 02:33 Jaksiel wrote:
Graves 50 cs ahead of Renekton 10 minutes in.

I'm comparing him to Yorick still since they have similar lanes.


If you prefer, Graves is also 20 cs ahead of Corki (although Yorick just died again). If both Renekton and Yorick get shut down, that's advantage to CLG.NA, right?

Depending on how much Yorick dies. As I just read this as he died yet again.

Edit: Although, he is worth less gold over time, but damage in team fights with clones is useful.
icemanzdoinwork
Profile Joined August 2010
447 Posts
June 10 2012 17:38 GMT
#1568
On June 11 2012 02:31 MooMooMugi wrote:
There's like a Graves in every game in MLG even with all the nerfs


Yea wrong patch, but the nerfs aren't impressive. He will get picked until they Nerf his passive.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
June 10 2012 17:38 GMT
#1569
Eu so much better than clg.na atm
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
June 10 2012 17:38 GMT
#1570
On June 11 2012 02:37 triangle wrote:
I think shen should camp top and just feed graves, just like noc is camping bot to feed corki :/

he should be helping mid, karthus is overextending to enemy wraits all the time.. cant let him do that. Hence the 50 CS discrepency in mid, jiji cant handle it alone >_>
Moderator
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-10 17:39:51
June 10 2012 17:38 GMT
#1571
Why doesn't Wicked just build a heart of gold if he is being shut down this hard. He isn't using his life steal from dorans much.

HAHA that Shen Ult. Shield Graves when he is at 75% health just incase Karthus decides to ult after he dies.
jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
June 10 2012 17:39 GMT
#1572
I have no idea why CLG.NA consistently tries all of these weird meta changes.

It's almost as if they still think they are so far ahead of everyone else that they ARE the meta.

They lost dragon control. And although DL's CS is higher, they are still behind in gold.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
June 10 2012 17:40 GMT
#1573
Baited as fuck
Also, shen ult might have helped there
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
June 10 2012 17:40 GMT
#1574
On June 11 2012 02:39 jacosajh wrote:
I have no idea why CLG.NA consistently tries all of these weird meta changes.

It's almost as if they still think they are so far ahead of everyone else that they ARE the meta.

They lost dragon control. And although DL's CS is higher, they are still behind in gold.

no way to fight CLG.EU straight up, and they know it.. better try this^^
Moderator
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
June 10 2012 17:41 GMT
#1575
The Yorick 1v2 thing is not new.
jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
June 10 2012 17:42 GMT
#1576
On June 11 2012 02:40 Beyonder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 02:39 jacosajh wrote:
I have no idea why CLG.NA consistently tries all of these weird meta changes.

It's almost as if they still think they are so far ahead of everyone else that they ARE the meta.

They lost dragon control. And although DL's CS is higher, they are still behind in gold.

no way to fight CLG.EU straight up, and they know it.. better try this^^


And then CLG.EU decides to throw lolol.


CLUTCH. Really, that's all CLG.NA has become. Clutch. Like Boxer at SC:BW. Just Clutch. Nothing else. Yet they get so much fanbase because of clutch plays. Not solid gameplay all day every day year round like a lot of other teams.
PardonYou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1360 Posts
June 10 2012 17:43 GMT
#1577
Phreak has to stop saying CLG. I'm getting confused what he is actually saying.

CLG.EU needs to force a winnable team fight.
jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
June 10 2012 17:44 GMT
#1578
On June 11 2012 02:41 BlackMagister wrote:
The Yorick 1v2 thing is not new.


It's not, but I feel Yorick would've done better vs Renekton. And been more useful in teamfights, just like we saw.

Look at me, feeling like Man Dinh.
Owned Noob
Profile Joined April 2010
United States731 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-10 17:47:36
June 10 2012 17:46 GMT
#1579
On June 11 2012 02:44 jacosajh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 02:41 BlackMagister wrote:
The Yorick 1v2 thing is not new.


It's not, but I feel Yorick would've done better vs Renekton. And been more useful in teamfights, just like we saw.

Look at me, feeling like Man Dinh.

they didnt want the karth/noc ganks with corki ali

edit: wow nice baron
jaedong the man with the huge dong
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
June 10 2012 17:46 GMT
#1580
Is there a link to the stream? the ones on solomid say streams starting soon?
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Prev 1 77 78 79 80 81 163 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Wardi Open
14:00
#69
WardiTV1487
TKL 196
Rex171
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko471
Harstem 311
TKL 196
Rex 171
BRAT_OK 18
MindelVK 11
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 2811
EffOrt 1822
Larva 956
ggaemo 820
Horang2 631
ZerO 610
Mini 514
Snow 511
actioN 469
BeSt 407
[ Show more ]
Light 394
Barracks 331
firebathero 136
Sharp 115
JYJ 102
Hyun 91
Mind 65
sorry 55
Aegong 51
Leta 48
Movie 44
910 36
Mong 31
Free 26
Rock 22
zelot 21
soO 19
Terrorterran 15
ajuk12(nOOB) 12
GoRush 11
Sacsri 10
Dota 2
qojqva2213
syndereN415
ODPixel144
XcaliburYe98
Counter-Strike
markeloff298
adren_tv121
oskar113
Super Smash Bros
Westballz9
Other Games
Grubby2711
Gorgc2435
singsing1815
Liquid`RaSZi1772
hiko824
B2W.Neo331
Pyrionflax306
crisheroes306
Liquid`VortiX166
RotterdaM137
XaKoH 130
FrodaN91
QueenE67
ZerO(Twitch)14
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick5079
BasetradeTV1
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• HappyZerGling 97
• poizon28 3
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Michael_bg 4
• FirePhoenix2
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• TFBlade1402
Upcoming Events
Monday Night Weeklies
1h 19m
WardiTV Invitational
19h 49m
WardiTV Invitational
1d 19h
The PondCast
2 days
OSC
2 days
OSC
3 days
All Star Teams
4 days
INnoVation vs soO
sOs vs Scarlett
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
All Star Teams
5 days
MMA vs DongRaeGu
Rogue vs Oliveira
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
[ Show More ]
OSC
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-01-11
Big Gabe Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W4
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Rongyi Cup S3
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Nations Cup 2026
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.