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LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
June 11 2012 02:41 GMT
#2801
On June 11 2012 11:36 daSilvaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 11:32 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On June 11 2012 11:30 daSilvaz wrote:
Look at that...dumb extended series saving TSM again....


It's not an extended series. It's a winner's and losers bracket. If you got knocked out after you first Bo3 loss then TSM would've already won the tournament. Makes complete sense.

Regardless its dumb and unfair to both teams, just make it a normal format ffs like champions league




no its, not, this is how online games are played. When organizing real world tournaments for my sport of choice, i actually tried to use this too as its much better than some annoying group stage into single elemination.
But people get confused too much, expecting football format.





I hate CLG, i really wanted to go to sleep.
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
June 11 2012 02:41 GMT
#2802
On June 11 2012 11:36 daSilvaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 11:32 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On June 11 2012 11:30 daSilvaz wrote:
Look at that...dumb extended series saving TSM again....


It's not an extended series. It's a winner's and losers bracket. If you got knocked out after you first Bo3 loss then TSM would've already won the tournament. Makes complete sense.

Regardless its dumb and unfair to both teams, just make it a normal format ffs like champions league

Be happy you get more games.
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
June 11 2012 02:41 GMT
#2803
So CLG, Kog,Nidalee poke comp?
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
June 11 2012 02:41 GMT
#2804
On June 11 2012 11:38 Jaksiel wrote:
CLG have been performing admirably, but I wonder if fatigue takes its toll at some point. CLG have already played 10 games today, whereas TSM have played 5.

Yah, that was a big problem with CLG at IPL4 where they lost to TSM and part of it was due to fatigue. Hopefully they're still okay for today! :X
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-11 02:43:48
June 11 2012 02:42 GMT
#2805
On June 11 2012 11:39 ketchup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 11:38 Jaksiel wrote:
CLG have been performing admirably, but I wonder if fatigue takes its toll at some point. CLG have already played 10 games today, whereas TSM have played 5.


I believe something similar happened in IPL(I think), where CLG won the first set, but got demolished the second. Granted, it's not all fatigue, but it probably played a part in how terribly they did in the second set.


Ok. Then TSM won the tournament yesterday.

Double elimination is the most sensible thing as it allows teams to adapt to changes they see mid tournament in the game itself and adaptability is a good skill to laud.

This tournament format has existed for years, long before MLG was even a dream. It's not some "bullshit," it's a very standard tournament format.
Remember Violet.
templar rage
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2509 Posts
June 11 2012 02:42 GMT
#2806
On June 11 2012 11:36 daSilvaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 11:32 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On June 11 2012 11:30 daSilvaz wrote:
Look at that...dumb extended series saving TSM again....


It's not an extended series. It's a winner's and losers bracket. If you got knocked out after you first Bo3 loss then TSM would've already won the tournament. Makes complete sense.

Regardless its dumb and unfair to both teams, just make it a normal format ffs like champions league


This isn't some random bullshit that MLG pulled out of their ass for this competition (extended series is, but we've clearly established that this is NOT extended series). This is quite a normal format, and I fail to see how it's unfair to both teams.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
June 11 2012 02:42 GMT
#2807
On June 11 2012 11:41 LaNague wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 11:36 daSilvaz wrote:
On June 11 2012 11:32 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On June 11 2012 11:30 daSilvaz wrote:
Look at that...dumb extended series saving TSM again....


It's not an extended series. It's a winner's and losers bracket. If you got knocked out after you first Bo3 loss then TSM would've already won the tournament. Makes complete sense.

Regardless its dumb and unfair to both teams, just make it a normal format ffs like champions league


I hate CLG, i really wanted to go to sleep.


I feel you man. I got to get up at 9am for the first time since I finished exams a few weeks back. Going to be a rough 3 hour sleep!
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-11 02:43:31
June 11 2012 02:43 GMT
#2808
On June 11 2012 11:42 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 11:39 ketchup wrote:
On June 11 2012 11:38 Jaksiel wrote:
CLG have been performing admirably, but I wonder if fatigue takes its toll at some point. CLG have already played 10 games today, whereas TSM have played 5.


I believe something similar happened in IPL(I think), where CLG won the first set, but got demolished the second. Granted, it's not all fatigue, but it probably played a part in how terribly they did in the second set.


Ok. Then TSM won the tournament yesterday.


I'm not too sure what you are saying here. Misquoting? This is MLG. The last time they faced off against each other, it was also this format. Which I believe was IPL.
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
June 11 2012 02:43 GMT
#2809
On June 11 2012 11:36 daSilvaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 11:32 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On June 11 2012 11:30 daSilvaz wrote:
Look at that...dumb extended series saving TSM again....


It's not an extended series. It's a winner's and losers bracket. If you got knocked out after you first Bo3 loss then TSM would've already won the tournament. Makes complete sense.

Regardless its dumb and unfair to both teams, just make it a normal format ffs like champions league


This is a normal format, there are plenty of mainstream sports that use the exact same system for championship brackets.
I am the Town Medic.
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-11 02:44:18
June 11 2012 02:43 GMT
#2810
TSM v CLG.NA Grand Finals Second Bo3 Game 1
Stream 1: Phreak + Rivington
Stream 2: Jatt + JoeJoeMillerMiller


TSM Bans: Alistar, Shen, Sorara
CLG Bans: Kennen, Vladimir, Urgot

TSM Picks: Janna // Graves Nautilus // Karthus Kayle
CLG Picks: Nocturne Taric // CassiOPeia Corki // Yorick

Oooh, repeat of First Bo3 Game 2!
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-11 02:44:08
June 11 2012 02:43 GMT
#2811
edit nevermind I'm dumb
Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
June 11 2012 02:44 GMT
#2812
What stream has the best commentary (or least worst...)?
Whaaaa?
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-11 02:45:36
June 11 2012 02:44 GMT
#2813
On June 11 2012 11:39 Jaksiel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 11:36 daSilvaz wrote:
On June 11 2012 11:32 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On June 11 2012 11:30 daSilvaz wrote:
Look at that...dumb extended series saving TSM again....


It's not an extended series. It's a winner's and losers bracket. If you got knocked out after you first Bo3 loss then TSM would've already won the tournament. Makes complete sense.

Regardless its dumb and unfair to both teams, just make it a normal format ffs like champions league


Double elimination is a normal format. I find this complaint odd.


Well the super bowl, world series, and world cup aren't double elim. Double elim may be fair but you have to admit that single elim at the very least tends to give a better story than "Oh they won set 1 and now we don't even get set 2". I think it's natural for people to perceive double elim as unfair since the rules themselves stack the odds in one team's favor at the end.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
June 11 2012 02:44 GMT
#2814
Less qq
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
OreoBoi
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada1639 Posts
June 11 2012 02:44 GMT
#2815
incoming mass lane swaps
ArC_man
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States2798 Posts
June 11 2012 02:45 GMT
#2816
xHazzard uses wireless mouse, #1
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
June 11 2012 02:45 GMT
#2817
On June 11 2012 11:44 Misder wrote:
What stream has the best commentary (or least worst...)?

Stream 2 obviously.
God Bless
daSilvaz
Profile Joined June 2011
809 Posts
June 11 2012 02:45 GMT
#2818
On June 11 2012 11:40 BloodNinja wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 11:36 daSilvaz wrote:
On June 11 2012 11:32 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On June 11 2012 11:30 daSilvaz wrote:
Look at that...dumb extended series saving TSM again....


It's not an extended series. It's a winner's and losers bracket. If you got knocked out after you first Bo3 loss then TSM would've already won the tournament. Makes complete sense.

Regardless its dumb and unfair to both teams, just make it a normal format ffs like champions league


This is NORMAL format. There is nothing dumb or unfair about it.

I don't understand what you can be missing here. If you are saying TSM should be out because they just lost, then CLG should have been eliminated a few rounds ago as they have already lost a BO3.

Im saying both, you just dont understand my point, its like barcelona to be able to play chelsea in the CL final after being eliminated despite having to win 2 games to get the cup.
Papvin
Profile Joined May 2009
Denmark610 Posts
June 11 2012 02:45 GMT
#2819
Okay, so they mention some Yorrick Cass gimmick, and I saw Cass getting Yorrick ulti. Is there something I'm missing?
"It's criminally negligent to dismiss Rock's contributions to other people's careers", Dukethegold
triangle
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3803 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-11 02:48:18
June 11 2012 02:46 GMT
#2820
On June 11 2012 11:44 Misder wrote:
What stream has the best commentary (or least worst...)?

Stream 2.

Also, I really dislike how TSM tends to run very similar teams a lot. It's probably unreasonable, but I wish they had like 5 different team comps for the finals they could pull out.

Oh well.

Edit - daSilvaz, you are making no sense. You are saying both, as in TSM should have won yesterday and CLG should have won after winning the last match? Those are mutually exclusive.

Double elimination is a perfectly reasonable format, and having a two part final with double elimination is more fair/reasonable/logical than randomly knocking out a team after they only lost once.
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