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At any point of IEM Season 6 Championship, if you think of an interesting byline, please drop a sentence in the Pro Scene thread. At the end of the month, I'll catalogue the results of Hannover but also any interesting facts or events that happen over the course of the tournament. Thanks. Neo, 06.03.2012 |
On March 07 2012 00:34 TheKefka wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 00:32 Shiv. wrote:On March 07 2012 00:30 TheKefka wrote:On March 07 2012 00:28 Craton wrote:On March 07 2012 00:26 TheKefka wrote:
I still think that wriggles is completely nonsensical on phoenix udyr,but hey he's the pro. I don't see how you'd deal with Yorick without one. He bought double gp/5s before the wriggles.......It had nothing to do with the yorick. That's like saying Wriggle's after double GP10 on jungle Jarman has nothing to do with the jungle, lol. You want your gold items ticking asap, and if he still felt the lane was too volatile against Yorick, there's no better item to get. It's not like Phoenixdyr doesn't attack at all. I have no idea who goes double gp items and wriggles on jarvan jungle,but even that is a terrible comparison. Top lane isn't the jungle.
Smash does. All I need to know to see it's legit.
Besides, I was trying to point out how your argument basically was ''he bought 2 GP10, so the Wriggle's wasn't because of Yorick.''
How does that make sense?
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On March 07 2012 00:32 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 00:28 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Never understood why people think shyv is good. She does nothing except auto attack and I do mean that literally. Also alistar is completely worthless because if he uses his cc to initiate he'll die instantly if he isn't farmed up a ton, or if he's saving it to peel he'll just die to accidental aoe. Shyvana is all about damage, yes, but being a tanky permaslow with tons of damage isn't really a bad thing, especially as she can 1v1 just about everything and deals plenty of AoE damage as well while being extremely tanky. I think damage is quite underrated. She can very well be a better asset for the team than Fiddlesticks for example even though Fiddle is a CC king while Shyvana has nothing but damage.
Shyv doesn't have any slows. If you're counting mallet then anything can be better than shyv. And she doesn't have a ton of damage, she does little other than auto attack.
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woah 102k on the mainstream oO.
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new to lol, but that fastest game rule sounds just stupid and arbitrary. couldn't they think of something better?
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This winspeed tiebreaker rule is just completely retarded. This promotes unsafe play and makes you want to finish the game too fast, leading into throwing your lead. At least make the tiebreaker either the kill/death ratio or the gold earned-ratio(This one would imo be clearly the best). Those at least somewhat make sense. Whoever made that rule up should be fired.
On March 07 2012 00:37 SnK-Arcbound wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 00:32 Shikyo wrote:On March 07 2012 00:28 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Never understood why people think shyv is good. She does nothing except auto attack and I do mean that literally. Also alistar is completely worthless because if he uses his cc to initiate he'll die instantly if he isn't farmed up a ton, or if he's saving it to peel he'll just die to accidental aoe. Shyvana is all about damage, yes, but being a tanky permaslow with tons of damage isn't really a bad thing, especially as she can 1v1 just about everything and deals plenty of AoE damage as well while being extremely tanky. I think damage is quite underrated. She can very well be a better asset for the team than Fiddlesticks for example even though Fiddle is a CC king while Shyvana has nothing but damage. Shyv doesn't have any slows. If you're counting mallet then anything can be better than shyv. And she doesn't have a ton of damage, she does little other than auto attack.
Of course I'm counting mallet because she rushes it every game. Rest of your post is just theorycraft without reality basis so I won't comment on it further.
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On March 07 2012 00:37 SnK-Arcbound wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 00:32 Shikyo wrote:On March 07 2012 00:28 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Never understood why people think shyv is good. She does nothing except auto attack and I do mean that literally. Also alistar is completely worthless because if he uses his cc to initiate he'll die instantly if he isn't farmed up a ton, or if he's saving it to peel he'll just die to accidental aoe. Shyvana is all about damage, yes, but being a tanky permaslow with tons of damage isn't really a bad thing, especially as she can 1v1 just about everything and deals plenty of AoE damage as well while being extremely tanky. I think damage is quite underrated. She can very well be a better asset for the team than Fiddlesticks for example even though Fiddle is a CC king while Shyvana has nothing but damage. Shyv doesn't have any slows. If you're counting mallet then anything can be better than shyv. And she doesn't have a ton of damage, she does little other than auto attack.
ArP from E and permaW is little other than AA?
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On March 07 2012 00:38 dooraven wrote:
woah 102k on the mainstream oO.
Hit 115k during CLG game heh.
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is d v aaa not going to be on any stream? sadface ..
edit: nesl stream came on!
edit: then off .....
on again yay
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On March 07 2012 00:37 Shiv. wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 00:34 TheKefka wrote:On March 07 2012 00:32 Shiv. wrote:On March 07 2012 00:30 TheKefka wrote:On March 07 2012 00:28 Craton wrote:On March 07 2012 00:26 TheKefka wrote:
I still think that wriggles is completely nonsensical on phoenix udyr,but hey he's the pro. I don't see how you'd deal with Yorick without one. He bought double gp/5s before the wriggles.......It had nothing to do with the yorick. That's like saying Wriggle's after double GP10 on jungle Jarman has nothing to do with the jungle, lol. You want your gold items ticking asap, and if he still felt the lane was too volatile against Yorick, there's no better item to get. It's not like Phoenixdyr doesn't attack at all. I have no idea who goes double gp items and wriggles on jarvan jungle,but even that is a terrible comparison. Top lane isn't the jungle. Smash does. All I need to know to see it's legit. Besides, I was trying to point out how your argument basically was ''he bought 2 GP10, so the Wriggle's wasn't because of Yorick.'' How does that make sense?
It makes sense because wriggles does nothing for a phoenix udyr cept get him armor and a ward and delays your wits end which is the real item you want on a phoenix udyr obviously.
Building double gp items on a top lane is saying this:"I'm so safe and you can't even kill me or out sustain me even if you tried",so it clearly wasn't because he had problems with yorick.
What ever,its just my opinion and its not like I'm a pro as I said so there must be a good reason which i don't see.
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On March 07 2012 00:37 SnK-Arcbound wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 00:32 Shikyo wrote:On March 07 2012 00:28 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Never understood why people think shyv is good. She does nothing except auto attack and I do mean that literally. Also alistar is completely worthless because if he uses his cc to initiate he'll die instantly if he isn't farmed up a ton, or if he's saving it to peel he'll just die to accidental aoe. Shyvana is all about damage, yes, but being a tanky permaslow with tons of damage isn't really a bad thing, especially as she can 1v1 just about everything and deals plenty of AoE damage as well while being extremely tanky. I think damage is quite underrated. She can very well be a better asset for the team than Fiddlesticks for example even though Fiddle is a CC king while Shyvana has nothing but damage. Shyv doesn't have any slows. If you're counting mallet then anything can be better than shyv. And she doesn't have a ton of damage, she does little other than auto attack.
If you think her damage is from auto attack, you should probably stop talking about the champion.
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On March 07 2012 00:37 SnK-Arcbound wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 00:32 Shikyo wrote:On March 07 2012 00:28 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Never understood why people think shyv is good. She does nothing except auto attack and I do mean that literally. Also alistar is completely worthless because if he uses his cc to initiate he'll die instantly if he isn't farmed up a ton, or if he's saving it to peel he'll just die to accidental aoe. Shyvana is all about damage, yes, but being a tanky permaslow with tons of damage isn't really a bad thing, especially as she can 1v1 just about everything and deals plenty of AoE damage as well while being extremely tanky. I think damage is quite underrated. She can very well be a better asset for the team than Fiddlesticks for example even though Fiddle is a CC king while Shyvana has nothing but damage. Shyv doesn't have any slows. If you're counting mallet then anything can be better than shyv. And she doesn't have a ton of damage, she does little other than auto attack.
Her ultimate gives her Singed's poison trail times two. Add all her other AoE and she deals ridiculous amounts of AoE damage.
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On March 07 2012 00:37 SnK-Arcbound wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 00:32 Shikyo wrote:On March 07 2012 00:28 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Never understood why people think shyv is good. She does nothing except auto attack and I do mean that literally. Also alistar is completely worthless because if he uses his cc to initiate he'll die instantly if he isn't farmed up a ton, or if he's saving it to peel he'll just die to accidental aoe. Shyvana is all about damage, yes, but being a tanky permaslow with tons of damage isn't really a bad thing, especially as she can 1v1 just about everything and deals plenty of AoE damage as well while being extremely tanky. I think damage is quite underrated. She can very well be a better asset for the team than Fiddlesticks for example even though Fiddle is a CC king while Shyvana has nothing but damage. Shyv doesn't have any slows. If you're counting mallet then anything can be better than shyv. And she doesn't have a ton of damage, she does little other than auto attack.
Nah, that Shyvana was having a bad day I guess. With wriggle and manage to get outfarmed by a gp5 Shen. She was wasting so much time early in the game when she camp mid for like a minute or so. Bigfatjj just pretending like he didn't know she was there and let aAa kept the hope that they could gank him.
Shyvana with proper farm is a monster late game. Press R fly into the enemy team, press W and Q away. But CLG just didn't let it come to that.
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On March 07 2012 00:39 aliasds wrote:
is d v aaa not going to be on any stream? sadface ..
edit: nesl stream came on!
edit: then off .....
dunno could be on the AL stream
twitch.tv/absolutetv
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On March 07 2012 00:37 Shiv. wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 00:34 TheKefka wrote:On March 07 2012 00:32 Shiv. wrote:On March 07 2012 00:30 TheKefka wrote:On March 07 2012 00:28 Craton wrote:On March 07 2012 00:26 TheKefka wrote:
I still think that wriggles is completely nonsensical on phoenix udyr,but hey he's the pro. I don't see how you'd deal with Yorick without one. He bought double gp/5s before the wriggles.......It had nothing to do with the yorick. That's like saying Wriggle's after double GP10 on jungle Jarman has nothing to do with the jungle, lol. You want your gold items ticking asap, and if he still felt the lane was too volatile against Yorick, there's no better item to get. It's not like Phoenixdyr doesn't attack at all. I have no idea who goes double gp items and wriggles on jarvan jungle,but even that is a terrible comparison. Top lane isn't the jungle. Smash does. All I need to know to see it's legit. Besides, I was trying to point out how your argument basically was ''he bought 2 GP10, so the Wriggle's wasn't because of Yorick.'' How does that make sense?
Maybe he bought to be able to invade better and steal golems all the time? MOAR FARM....
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On March 07 2012 00:41 BlueSpace wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 00:37 Shiv. wrote:On March 07 2012 00:34 TheKefka wrote:On March 07 2012 00:32 Shiv. wrote:On March 07 2012 00:30 TheKefka wrote:On March 07 2012 00:28 Craton wrote:On March 07 2012 00:26 TheKefka wrote:
I still think that wriggles is completely nonsensical on phoenix udyr,but hey he's the pro. I don't see how you'd deal with Yorick without one. He bought double gp/5s before the wriggles.......It had nothing to do with the yorick. That's like saying Wriggle's after double GP10 on jungle Jarman has nothing to do with the jungle, lol. You want your gold items ticking asap, and if he still felt the lane was too volatile against Yorick, there's no better item to get. It's not like Phoenixdyr doesn't attack at all. I have no idea who goes double gp items and wriggles on jarvan jungle,but even that is a terrible comparison. Top lane isn't the jungle. Smash does. All I need to know to see it's legit. Besides, I was trying to point out how your argument basically was ''he bought 2 GP10, so the Wriggle's wasn't because of Yorick.'' How does that make sense? Maybe he bought to be able to invade better and steal golems all the time? MOAR FARM....
Yep that actually sounds logical,he was looking to steal the red a couple of times i guess.
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u dont have enough sustain vs yorick with only philo+turtle stance
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On March 07 2012 00:44 DURRHURRDERP wrote:
u dont have enough sustain vs yorick with only philo+turtle stance
Rivington: So, how did that Udyr work?
Hotshot: I know Yorrick and Shyvana have no kill potential after I am level 4 so I just ran around trololol.
O rly?
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Good to see Vayne putting in work after her massive nerfs stopped nearly everyone from playing her
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Overall I think clg is the stronger team, and momentum makes all the difference, but I'm such a huge Shushei fan, would be awesome if Fnatic wins.
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