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At any point of IEM Season 6 Championship, if you think of an interesting byline, please drop a sentence in the Pro Scene thread.

At the end of the month, I'll catalogue the results of Hannover but also any interesting facts or events that happen over the course of the tournament.

Thanks.

Neo, 06.03.2012
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
March 08 2012 10:29 GMT
#3501
On March 08 2012 19:26 Slusher wrote:
Ever since M5 won Kiev CLG has said it was because they were in Korea, the fact that the dream match is now finally official is enough for me. I'd love for CLG to win, but it feels like a really tall order.

In the mean time, can't wait for the next set Ocelot is one of my favorite players.

CLG's playstyle actually counters M5... CLG might have the best knowledge of counter picking
also, super safe early game while dominating all lanes.


the only thing what im worried is dragon timer... CLG never take first drag huehuehue
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 08 2012 10:29 GMT
#3502
On March 08 2012 19:26 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 19:22 Shikyo wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:21 EchelonTee wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:13 Shikyo wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:12 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:10 Shikyo wrote:
Phreak GOOD JOB calling it backdooring when he had his own minions there, really showing us your shining knowledge of terminology.

d t
Semantics.

TF backdoors all the time and it's with creeps pretty often. >_>

Wut? With creeps it's called pushing. That's not just semantics, Backdooring has a really negative sound to it and you shouldn't accuse people of it without good reason in my opinion, I'd consider it quite rude.

ESPECIALLY as in that case it was actually CLG Backdooring the inhibitor while the Lee Sin was pushing normally.

BTW SYDTKO best.


backdooring is a valid tactic; saying that it has a "negative sound" to it is like when people criticize cheese... it's just a tactic.

lee sin = backdooring b/c it wasnt as part of a standard push, he slipped in when everyone else was gone. TECHNICALLY, if you want to ignore the state of the game at the moment, yes it was not backdooring, but it's "semantics".

You realize that CLG actually was backdooring and Lee Sin wasn't? It was a standard push, their creep wave was all the way at CLGs base while CLG itself backdoored mid, that's not just semantics. Unless you don't mind people saying blatantly incorrect things

On March 08 2012 19:21 EchelonTee wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:13 Shikyo wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:12 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:10 Shikyo wrote:
Phreak GOOD JOB calling it backdooring when he had his own minions there, really showing us your shining knowledge of terminology.

d t
Semantics.

TF backdoors all the time and it's with creeps pretty often. >_>

Wut? With creeps it's called pushing. That's not just semantics, Backdooring has a really negative sound to it and you shouldn't accuse people of it without good reason in my opinion, I'd consider it quite rude.

ESPECIALLY as in that case it was actually CLG Backdooring the inhibitor while the Lee Sin was pushing normally.

BTW SYDTKO best.


backdooring is a valid tactic; saying that it has a "negative sound" to it is like when people criticize cheese... it's just a tactic.

lee sin = backdooring b/c it wasnt as part of a standard push, he slipped in when everyone else was gone. TECHNICALLY, if you want to ignore the state of the game at the moment, yes it was not backdooring, but it's "semantics".

No that's the equivalent of a Zerg going 15hatch 15pool and you calling it cheese


If we really disliked incorrect things I feel like you'd have a lot more flame for shit you say in GD threads, lol.

1 guy attacking an inhib = push, but the entire enemy team attacking an inhib = backdoor, according to you. I don't think minions matter much if you're considering inhibs, not towers.

So if an opponent has only nexus and their creeps are at enemy base and the opposing team 5mans their nexus that's not backdooring?

You realize that the amount of people doing it has nothing to do with it being backdooring or not? It's all about having minions.

Did you even know that in League of Legends there's a slight anti-backdoor system that gives structures additional armor and magic resist when you are attacking them without your own minions around? If you don't know the terms just don't say anything.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
March 08 2012 10:30 GMT
#3503
On March 08 2012 19:27 De4ngus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 19:20 Zdrastochye wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:19 deskscaress wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:15 zulu_nation8 wrote:
sydtko probably shouldnt be playing at tourney level


ftfy

or if you prefer

On March 08 2012 19:15 zulu_nation8 wrote:
sydtko probably shouldnt be playing league of legends


works too


honestly, sydtko is an instant loss. i can't think of a single time he's had any positive impact on a game. it's PATHETIC that you can put up an ad on reddit, find a random player that plays ON A DIFFERENT SERVER, have him fill in for your solo top player, play ZERO practice games, and outperform your starter. PATHETIC.

nyjacky is sooooooo good, crumbzz is really really good, cop + elementz aren't anywhere near top tier but definitely passable, but holyyyy shiiiiiiit syyyyyyyyyydtkooooooooooo


SYDTKO didn't play any worse than TRM's Irelia. :O

trm doesnt die over and over to ganks tho


Did you watch TSM vs SK for the last spot from group B? Literally the last game TSM played at this tourney.
Hey! How you doin'?
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
March 08 2012 10:31 GMT
#3504
guys, take your silly backdoor arguing to PM and stop wasting space here please, thanks
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
March 08 2012 10:31 GMT
#3505
On March 08 2012 19:30 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 19:27 De4ngus wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:20 Zdrastochye wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:19 deskscaress wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:15 zulu_nation8 wrote:
sydtko probably shouldnt be playing at tourney level


ftfy

or if you prefer

On March 08 2012 19:15 zulu_nation8 wrote:
sydtko probably shouldnt be playing league of legends


works too


honestly, sydtko is an instant loss. i can't think of a single time he's had any positive impact on a game. it's PATHETIC that you can put up an ad on reddit, find a random player that plays ON A DIFFERENT SERVER, have him fill in for your solo top player, play ZERO practice games, and outperform your starter. PATHETIC.

nyjacky is sooooooo good, crumbzz is really really good, cop + elementz aren't anywhere near top tier but definitely passable, but holyyyy shiiiiiiit syyyyyyyyyydtkooooooooooo


SYDTKO didn't play any worse than TRM's Irelia. :O

trm doesnt die over and over to ganks tho


Did you watch TSM vs SK for the last spot from group B? Literally the last game TSM played at this tourney.

yes?
GANDHISAUCE
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
March 08 2012 10:31 GMT
#3506
On March 08 2012 19:30 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 19:27 De4ngus wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:20 Zdrastochye wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:19 deskscaress wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:15 zulu_nation8 wrote:
sydtko probably shouldnt be playing at tourney level


ftfy

or if you prefer

On March 08 2012 19:15 zulu_nation8 wrote:
sydtko probably shouldnt be playing league of legends


works too


honestly, sydtko is an instant loss. i can't think of a single time he's had any positive impact on a game. it's PATHETIC that you can put up an ad on reddit, find a random player that plays ON A DIFFERENT SERVER, have him fill in for your solo top player, play ZERO practice games, and outperform your starter. PATHETIC.

nyjacky is sooooooo good, crumbzz is really really good, cop + elementz aren't anywhere near top tier but definitely passable, but holyyyy shiiiiiiit syyyyyyyyyydtkooooooooooo


SYDTKO didn't play any worse than TRM's Irelia. :O

trm doesnt die over and over to ganks tho


Did you watch TSM vs SK for the last spot from group B? Literally the last game TSM played at this tourney.

but be honest all member of TSM played bad
meanwhile only sytko is clearly dragging crs down.
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
March 08 2012 10:32 GMT
#3507
On March 08 2012 19:29 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 19:26 Zdrastochye wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:22 Shikyo wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:21 EchelonTee wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:13 Shikyo wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:12 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:10 Shikyo wrote:
Phreak GOOD JOB calling it backdooring when he had his own minions there, really showing us your shining knowledge of terminology.

d t
Semantics.

TF backdoors all the time and it's with creeps pretty often. >_>

Wut? With creeps it's called pushing. That's not just semantics, Backdooring has a really negative sound to it and you shouldn't accuse people of it without good reason in my opinion, I'd consider it quite rude.

ESPECIALLY as in that case it was actually CLG Backdooring the inhibitor while the Lee Sin was pushing normally.

BTW SYDTKO best.


backdooring is a valid tactic; saying that it has a "negative sound" to it is like when people criticize cheese... it's just a tactic.

lee sin = backdooring b/c it wasnt as part of a standard push, he slipped in when everyone else was gone. TECHNICALLY, if you want to ignore the state of the game at the moment, yes it was not backdooring, but it's "semantics".

You realize that CLG actually was backdooring and Lee Sin wasn't? It was a standard push, their creep wave was all the way at CLGs base while CLG itself backdoored mid, that's not just semantics. Unless you don't mind people saying blatantly incorrect things

On March 08 2012 19:21 EchelonTee wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:13 Shikyo wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:12 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:10 Shikyo wrote:
Phreak GOOD JOB calling it backdooring when he had his own minions there, really showing us your shining knowledge of terminology.

d t
Semantics.

TF backdoors all the time and it's with creeps pretty often. >_>

Wut? With creeps it's called pushing. That's not just semantics, Backdooring has a really negative sound to it and you shouldn't accuse people of it without good reason in my opinion, I'd consider it quite rude.

ESPECIALLY as in that case it was actually CLG Backdooring the inhibitor while the Lee Sin was pushing normally.

BTW SYDTKO best.


backdooring is a valid tactic; saying that it has a "negative sound" to it is like when people criticize cheese... it's just a tactic.

lee sin = backdooring b/c it wasnt as part of a standard push, he slipped in when everyone else was gone. TECHNICALLY, if you want to ignore the state of the game at the moment, yes it was not backdooring, but it's "semantics".

No that's the equivalent of a Zerg going 15hatch 15pool and you calling it cheese


If we really disliked incorrect things I feel like you'd have a lot more flame for shit you say in GD threads, lol.

1 guy attacking an inhib = push, but the entire enemy team attacking an inhib = backdoor, according to you. I don't think minions matter much if you're considering inhibs, not towers.

So if an opponent has only nexus and their creeps are at enemy base and the opposing team 5mans their nexus that's not backdooring?

You realize that the amount of people doing it has nothing to do with it being backdooring or not? It's all about having minions.

Did you even know that in League of Legends there's a slight anti-backdoor system that gives structures additional armor and magic resist when you are attacking them without your own minions around? If you don't know the terms just don't say anything.


Right, I know nothing and you know everything. Forgot who I'm arguing with.
Hey! How you doin'?
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
March 08 2012 10:32 GMT
#3508
jiji did not miss a single ult that game that wasn't not forced away (saint kicked) or unidentifiable (projectiles going @ chau who was standing on top of jiji as well)

he applied very successful early game pressure which CLG constantly laments the lack thereof

and good lane control (until crumbzz and nyjacky coordinated their ults for a kill after revive, which saint should ideally try to be in position to countergank with wards to see when crumbzz is camping as after nyjacky's ult is down they have 0 kill potential vs him)

a very exciting game, good for nyjacky and jiji fans
Hey! Listen!
Darkchylde
Profile Joined January 2010
United States473 Posts
March 08 2012 10:32 GMT
#3509
On March 08 2012 19:07 Aurdon wrote:
I like the way that CLG built their two mages. Both went for Merc treads, but HSGG got the Abyssal to make up the MPen difference.

Mage vs Veigar you need to have mercs to lessen the stun duration else you just get blown up before you get out of CC.

On March 08 2012 19:14 wei2coolman wrote:
Can't help but think CLG totally planned out the zilean + mundo combo. So fucking sick. 1 cleaver hit, INSTABEAST MODE ACTIVATED on SV.

I think they just stumbled on it and it turned out to be a counter to Veigar as you can double speed Mundo who doesn't care about CC with merc/burning agony/Zil ult/Mundo ult and you can't run away from Mundo cleaver + Zil slow so if you get caught away from a tower, they are just gonna run you down. Veigar was using stuns to try and save team and CLG just forced fights without him being able to insta-gib combo someone.
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
March 08 2012 10:33 GMT
#3510
On March 08 2012 19:31 De4ngus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 19:30 Zdrastochye wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:27 De4ngus wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:20 Zdrastochye wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:19 deskscaress wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:15 zulu_nation8 wrote:
sydtko probably shouldnt be playing at tourney level


ftfy

or if you prefer

On March 08 2012 19:15 zulu_nation8 wrote:
sydtko probably shouldnt be playing league of legends


works too


honestly, sydtko is an instant loss. i can't think of a single time he's had any positive impact on a game. it's PATHETIC that you can put up an ad on reddit, find a random player that plays ON A DIFFERENT SERVER, have him fill in for your solo top player, play ZERO practice games, and outperform your starter. PATHETIC.

nyjacky is sooooooo good, crumbzz is really really good, cop + elementz aren't anywhere near top tier but definitely passable, but holyyyy shiiiiiiit syyyyyyyyyydtkooooooooooo


SYDTKO didn't play any worse than TRM's Irelia. :O

trm doesnt die over and over to ganks tho


Did you watch TSM vs SK for the last spot from group B? Literally the last game TSM played at this tourney.

yes?


He repeatedly died to ganks, and started 0-3. Over and over dying to ganks.
Hey! How you doin'?
Zealot Orgy
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom537 Posts
March 08 2012 10:34 GMT
#3511
Joe!
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 08 2012 10:34 GMT
#3512
On March 08 2012 19:32 Darkchylde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 19:07 Aurdon wrote:
I like the way that CLG built their two mages. Both went for Merc treads, but HSGG got the Abyssal to make up the MPen difference.

Mage vs Veigar you need to have mercs to lessen the stun duration else you just get blown up before you get out of CC.

Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 19:14 wei2coolman wrote:
Can't help but think CLG totally planned out the zilean + mundo combo. So fucking sick. 1 cleaver hit, INSTABEAST MODE ACTIVATED on SV.

I think they just stumbled on it and it turned out to be a counter to Veigar as you can double speed Mundo who doesn't care about CC with merc/burning agony/Zil ult/Mundo ult and you can't run away from Mundo cleaver + Zil slow so if you get caught away from a tower, they are just gonna run you down. Veigar was using stuns to try and save team and CLG just forced fights without him being able to insta-gib combo someone.

Kind of, one thing I don't get though is why mundo didn't go Frozen Mallet/atmas instead of Atmogs. The guaranteed slow and guaranteed cleaver hits would IMO have been more useful than the extra hp from Warmogs. Maybe he was certain he'd land the cleavers but yeah.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
March 08 2012 10:35 GMT
#3513
lol@ the troll face. Did they event realize that?
Terran
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
March 08 2012 10:36 GMT
#3514
On March 08 2012 19:33 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 19:31 De4ngus wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:30 Zdrastochye wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:27 De4ngus wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:20 Zdrastochye wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:19 deskscaress wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:15 zulu_nation8 wrote:
sydtko probably shouldnt be playing at tourney level


ftfy

or if you prefer

On March 08 2012 19:15 zulu_nation8 wrote:
sydtko probably shouldnt be playing league of legends


works too


honestly, sydtko is an instant loss. i can't think of a single time he's had any positive impact on a game. it's PATHETIC that you can put up an ad on reddit, find a random player that plays ON A DIFFERENT SERVER, have him fill in for your solo top player, play ZERO practice games, and outperform your starter. PATHETIC.

nyjacky is sooooooo good, crumbzz is really really good, cop + elementz aren't anywhere near top tier but definitely passable, but holyyyy shiiiiiiit syyyyyyyyyydtkooooooooooo


SYDTKO didn't play any worse than TRM's Irelia. :O

trm doesnt die over and over to ganks tho


Did you watch TSM vs SK for the last spot from group B? Literally the last game TSM played at this tourney.

yes?


He repeatedly died to ganks, and started 0-3. Over and over dying to ganks.


Dont forget he JUST warded it
KCCO!
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
March 08 2012 10:36 GMT
#3515
On March 08 2012 19:32 Darkchylde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 19:07 Aurdon wrote:
I like the way that CLG built their two mages. Both went for Merc treads, but HSGG got the Abyssal to make up the MPen difference.

Mage vs Veigar you need to have mercs to lessen the stun duration else you just get blown up before you get out of CC.

Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 19:14 wei2coolman wrote:
Can't help but think CLG totally planned out the zilean + mundo combo. So fucking sick. 1 cleaver hit, INSTABEAST MODE ACTIVATED on SV.

I think they just stumbled on it and it turned out to be a counter to Veigar as you can double speed Mundo who doesn't care about CC with merc/burning agony/Zil ult/Mundo ult and you can't run away from Mundo cleaver + Zil slow so if you get caught away from a tower, they are just gonna run you down. Veigar was using stuns to try and save team and CLG just forced fights without him being able to insta-gib combo someone.


I doubt they just stumbled upon it consider they first picked Mundo/Zilean...

On March 08 2012 19:29 emucxg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 19:26 Slusher wrote:
Ever since M5 won Kiev CLG has said it was because they were in Korea, the fact that the dream match is now finally official is enough for me. I'd love for CLG to win, but it feels like a really tall order.

In the mean time, can't wait for the next set Ocelot is one of my favorite players.

CLG's playstyle actually counters M5... CLG might have the best knowledge of counter picking
also, super safe early game while dominating all lanes.


the only thing what im worried is dragon timer... CLG never take first drag huehuehue


CLG will just trade first dragon for top tower like they do every game. It's a pretty even trade. I'd almost rather have the top tower than dragon tbh.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
March 08 2012 10:36 GMT
#3516
SV timing the 2 enemies recalling in the brush blindly and going in right when 1 recalled and the other not was my favourite moment! Too bad the casters didnt appreciate how good that was.
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
March 08 2012 10:37 GMT
#3517
On March 08 2012 19:29 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 19:26 Zdrastochye wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:22 Shikyo wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:21 EchelonTee wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:13 Shikyo wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:12 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:10 Shikyo wrote:
Phreak GOOD JOB calling it backdooring when he had his own minions there, really showing us your shining knowledge of terminology.

d t
Semantics.

TF backdoors all the time and it's with creeps pretty often. >_>

Wut? With creeps it's called pushing. That's not just semantics, Backdooring has a really negative sound to it and you shouldn't accuse people of it without good reason in my opinion, I'd consider it quite rude.

ESPECIALLY as in that case it was actually CLG Backdooring the inhibitor while the Lee Sin was pushing normally.

BTW SYDTKO best.


backdooring is a valid tactic; saying that it has a "negative sound" to it is like when people criticize cheese... it's just a tactic.

lee sin = backdooring b/c it wasnt as part of a standard push, he slipped in when everyone else was gone. TECHNICALLY, if you want to ignore the state of the game at the moment, yes it was not backdooring, but it's "semantics".

You realize that CLG actually was backdooring and Lee Sin wasn't? It was a standard push, their creep wave was all the way at CLGs base while CLG itself backdoored mid, that's not just semantics. Unless you don't mind people saying blatantly incorrect things

On March 08 2012 19:21 EchelonTee wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:13 Shikyo wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:12 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:10 Shikyo wrote:
Phreak GOOD JOB calling it backdooring when he had his own minions there, really showing us your shining knowledge of terminology.

d t
Semantics.

TF backdoors all the time and it's with creeps pretty often. >_>

Wut? With creeps it's called pushing. That's not just semantics, Backdooring has a really negative sound to it and you shouldn't accuse people of it without good reason in my opinion, I'd consider it quite rude.

ESPECIALLY as in that case it was actually CLG Backdooring the inhibitor while the Lee Sin was pushing normally.

BTW SYDTKO best.


backdooring is a valid tactic; saying that it has a "negative sound" to it is like when people criticize cheese... it's just a tactic.

lee sin = backdooring b/c it wasnt as part of a standard push, he slipped in when everyone else was gone. TECHNICALLY, if you want to ignore the state of the game at the moment, yes it was not backdooring, but it's "semantics".

No that's the equivalent of a Zerg going 15hatch 15pool and you calling it cheese


If we really disliked incorrect things I feel like you'd have a lot more flame for shit you say in GD threads, lol.

1 guy attacking an inhib = push, but the entire enemy team attacking an inhib = backdoor, according to you. I don't think minions matter much if you're considering inhibs, not towers.

So if an opponent has only nexus and their creeps are at enemy base and the opposing team 5mans their nexus that's not backdooring?

You realize that the amount of people doing it has nothing to do with it being backdooring or not? It's all about having minions.

Did you even know that in League of Legends there's a slight anti-backdoor system that gives structures additional armor and magic resist when you are attacking them without your own minions around? If you don't know the terms just don't say anything.


Ok I will bite.

So you ace them 5-0, all yours up, but minions are in your base and they have naked nexus. It's backdooring if you attack their nexus. Lolol.
Hey! How you doin'?
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 08 2012 10:38 GMT
#3518
On March 08 2012 19:37 Zdrastochye wrote:
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On March 08 2012 19:29 Shikyo wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:26 Zdrastochye wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:22 Shikyo wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:21 EchelonTee wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:13 Shikyo wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:12 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:10 Shikyo wrote:
Phreak GOOD JOB calling it backdooring when he had his own minions there, really showing us your shining knowledge of terminology.

d t
Semantics.

TF backdoors all the time and it's with creeps pretty often. >_>

Wut? With creeps it's called pushing. That's not just semantics, Backdooring has a really negative sound to it and you shouldn't accuse people of it without good reason in my opinion, I'd consider it quite rude.

ESPECIALLY as in that case it was actually CLG Backdooring the inhibitor while the Lee Sin was pushing normally.

BTW SYDTKO best.


backdooring is a valid tactic; saying that it has a "negative sound" to it is like when people criticize cheese... it's just a tactic.

lee sin = backdooring b/c it wasnt as part of a standard push, he slipped in when everyone else was gone. TECHNICALLY, if you want to ignore the state of the game at the moment, yes it was not backdooring, but it's "semantics".

You realize that CLG actually was backdooring and Lee Sin wasn't? It was a standard push, their creep wave was all the way at CLGs base while CLG itself backdoored mid, that's not just semantics. Unless you don't mind people saying blatantly incorrect things

On March 08 2012 19:21 EchelonTee wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:13 Shikyo wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:12 NeoIllusions wrote:
On March 08 2012 19:10 Shikyo wrote:
Phreak GOOD JOB calling it backdooring when he had his own minions there, really showing us your shining knowledge of terminology.

d t
Semantics.

TF backdoors all the time and it's with creeps pretty often. >_>

Wut? With creeps it's called pushing. That's not just semantics, Backdooring has a really negative sound to it and you shouldn't accuse people of it without good reason in my opinion, I'd consider it quite rude.

ESPECIALLY as in that case it was actually CLG Backdooring the inhibitor while the Lee Sin was pushing normally.

BTW SYDTKO best.


backdooring is a valid tactic; saying that it has a "negative sound" to it is like when people criticize cheese... it's just a tactic.

lee sin = backdooring b/c it wasnt as part of a standard push, he slipped in when everyone else was gone. TECHNICALLY, if you want to ignore the state of the game at the moment, yes it was not backdooring, but it's "semantics".

No that's the equivalent of a Zerg going 15hatch 15pool and you calling it cheese


If we really disliked incorrect things I feel like you'd have a lot more flame for shit you say in GD threads, lol.

1 guy attacking an inhib = push, but the entire enemy team attacking an inhib = backdoor, according to you. I don't think minions matter much if you're considering inhibs, not towers.

So if an opponent has only nexus and their creeps are at enemy base and the opposing team 5mans their nexus that's not backdooring?

You realize that the amount of people doing it has nothing to do with it being backdooring or not? It's all about having minions.

Did you even know that in League of Legends there's a slight anti-backdoor system that gives structures additional armor and magic resist when you are attacking them without your own minions around? If you don't know the terms just don't say anything.


Ok I will bite.

So you ace them 5-0, all yours up, but minions are in your base and they have naked nexus. It's backdooring if you attack their nexus. Lolol.

It is. I mean, I don't even get why you're arguing this.

Read more here:
http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Backdoor
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Use PM.

Fair warning to all.
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