• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 08:28
CET 14:28
KST 22:28
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners7Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting12[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11
Community News
Starcraft, SC2, HoTS, WC3, returning to Blizzcon!29$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship5[BSL21] RO32 Group Stage4Weekly Cups (Oct 26-Nov 2): Liquid, Clem, Solar win; LAN in Philly2Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win9
StarCraft 2
General
Starcraft, SC2, HoTS, WC3, returning to Blizzcon! TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners 5.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8) RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win
Tourneys
Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) $3,500 WardiTV Korean Royale S4
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions [BSL21] RO32 Group Stage BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ SnOw's ASL S20 Finals Review
Tourneys
[ASL20] Grand Finals [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] RO32 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO32 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta PvZ map balance How to stay on top of macro? Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread Dating: How's your luck?
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Coffee x Performance in Espo…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Why we need SC3
Hildegard
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Our Last Hope in th…
KrillinFromwales
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1765 users

[WCG] 2011 Busan Grand Finals Discussion - Page 71

Forum Index > LoL Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 69 70 71 72 73 79 Next
jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
December 11 2011 06:12 GMT
#1401
Ridiculous. HSGG tp to top was useless. High risk high reward, but I wouldn't have done it, even without hindsight knowledge.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17264 Posts
December 11 2011 06:13 GMT
#1402
clg's inability to force a fight is what's really killing them

they only have tf ult stun or trundle pillar, neither of which are sufficient

if they had something that could hard initiate they could crush france since they keep getting them all half hp
twitch.tv/cratonz
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
December 11 2011 06:13 GMT
#1403
Who is calling shit for CLGCA. Cuz for the life of me it just looks like they are playing solo q.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
December 11 2011 06:14 GMT
#1404
Linak real hero.
God Bless
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17264 Posts
December 11 2011 06:14 GMT
#1405
that entire game by both sides was absolutely terrible play
twitch.tv/cratonz
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
December 11 2011 06:14 GMT
#1406
Hero Udyr lol
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
Lancer723
Profile Joined September 2011
United States486 Posts
December 11 2011 06:15 GMT
#1407
Finals starting on main stage I think, game 2 at least >_>
LoL ID - Lancer723 Gold III
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
December 11 2011 06:15 GMT
#1408
france team was really trying hard to throw the game there at the end, but the minions managed to save it
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
December 11 2011 06:15 GMT
#1409
That 2nd baron steal was sweet though, his team just full respawned, flash smite just in time, bang 5 baron buffs, beautiful.
GreenManalishi
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada834 Posts
December 11 2011 06:15 GMT
#1410
On December 11 2011 15:13 Two_DoWn wrote:
Who is calling shit for CLGCA. Cuz for the life of me it just looks like they are playing solo q.


Poor execution more than poor calls I felt. If Elementz had silenced Udyr the 1st time, the game would have been over. If someone had bothered throwing a pink ward down in the baron pit, they would have gotten the second baron. Just sloppy execution.
nosliw
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2716 Posts
December 11 2011 06:15 GMT
#1411
1-1 tied up?
tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
December 11 2011 06:15 GMT
#1412
baron steals won the game lol

pretty funny game, I thought for sure France was going to win quickly when they started pushing down towers
"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-11 06:16:31
December 11 2011 06:15 GMT
#1413
On December 11 2011 15:13 Craton wrote:
clg's inability to force a fight is what's really killing them

they only have tf ult stun or trundle pillar, neither of which are sufficient

if they had something that could hard initiate they could crush france since they keep getting them all half hp


They placed such a large emphasis on poke it handicapped them everywhere else. Entire team made of paper.

Also, all the solo q pseudo-hero plays. Wtf?

France won, but barely. Pimp plays by Linak saved them, which should've been unnecessary.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
December 11 2011 06:17 GMT
#1414
On December 11 2011 15:15 jacosajh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2011 15:13 Craton wrote:
clg's inability to force a fight is what's really killing them

they only have tf ult stun or trundle pillar, neither of which are sufficient

if they had something that could hard initiate they could crush france since they keep getting them all half hp


They placed such a large emphasis on poke it handicapped them everywhere else. Entire team made of paper.


No their team comp was good... just bad play
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
December 11 2011 06:18 GMT
#1415
Why is the second stage quality stream so much better than the mainstage stream T_T
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
December 11 2011 06:18 GMT
#1416
Game 2 of the actual final is on the main stage.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Microchaton
Profile Joined March 2011
France342 Posts
December 11 2011 06:19 GMT
#1417
Counting dan dihn's restream with commentary and all LoL streams, more than 3 times as many viewers for LoL than SC2's finals but with that shitty ass format and fucked up schedule it doesn't say much... One game of the finals not streamed in LoL and CS finals is just utter bullshit :/ Sooo many terrible things in this tournament it's mind-boggling.
Stormy
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
December 11 2011 06:20 GMT
#1418
On December 11 2011 15:15 jacosajh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2011 15:13 Craton wrote:
clg's inability to force a fight is what's really killing them

they only have tf ult stun or trundle pillar, neither of which are sufficient

if they had something that could hard initiate they could crush france since they keep getting them all half hp


They placed such a large emphasis on poke it handicapped them everywhere else. Entire team made of paper.

Also, all the solo q pseudo-hero plays. Wtf?

France won, but barely. Pimp plays by Linak saved them, which should've been unnecessary.

This kind of team comp has been proven to work against the highest level of competition repeatedly. They just performed really horribly and France did really well in flanking with Udyr and Rumble in a lot of the team fights.
DEN1ED
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1087 Posts
December 11 2011 06:20 GMT
#1419
Ya mainstage stream quality makes it almost unwatchable.
jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
December 11 2011 06:20 GMT
#1420
On December 11 2011 15:17 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2011 15:15 jacosajh wrote:
On December 11 2011 15:13 Craton wrote:
clg's inability to force a fight is what's really killing them

they only have tf ult stun or trundle pillar, neither of which are sufficient

if they had something that could hard initiate they could crush france since they keep getting them all half hp


They placed such a large emphasis on poke it handicapped them everywhere else. Entire team made of paper.


No their team comp was good... just bad play


Good for the first half of the game. Please tell me how they were supposed to initiate any fight at all.
Prev 1 69 70 71 72 73 79 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
12:00
King of the Hill #230
WardiTV509
iHatsuTV 12
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko306
RotterdaM 237
Codebar 2
StarCraft: Brood War
Jaedong 1455
GuemChi 1215
Light 849
EffOrt 788
Stork 420
Mini 390
Larva 382
actioN 287
Barracks 259
Snow 241
[ Show more ]
BeSt 221
hero 148
Leta 145
Rush 116
sSak 110
JYJ70
Aegong 70
PianO 51
Pusan 42
sas.Sziky 39
Backho 37
zelot 28
sorry 27
Noble 25
Movie 22
soO 19
Sharp 19
yabsab 17
NaDa 16
scan(afreeca) 14
Shine 12
Bale 10
HiyA 8
Terrorterran 6
Dota 2
Gorgc6356
qojqva1152
XcaliburYe236
420jenkins116
League of Legends
Reynor94
Counter-Strike
zeus753
allub283
edward51
Other Games
singsing1723
B2W.Neo628
DeMusliM387
crisheroes314
Sick308
XaKoH 178
Happy139
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick552
Counter-Strike
PGL208
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 44
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 1732
• WagamamaTV298
League of Legends
• Jankos3869
Upcoming Events
LAN Event
1h 32m
Lambo vs Harstem
FuturE vs Maplez
Scarlett vs FoxeR
Gerald vs Mixu
Zoun vs TBD
Clem vs TBD
ByuN vs TBD
TriGGeR vs TBD
Korean StarCraft League
13h 32m
CranKy Ducklings
20h 32m
LAN Event
1d 1h
IPSL
1d 4h
dxtr13 vs OldBoy
Napoleon vs Doodle
BSL 21
1d 6h
Gosudark vs Kyrie
Gypsy vs Sterling
UltrA vs Radley
Dandy vs Ptak
Replay Cast
1d 9h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 20h
WardiTV Korean Royale
1d 22h
LAN Event
2 days
[ Show More ]
IPSL
2 days
JDConan vs WIZARD
WolFix vs Cross
BSL 21
2 days
spx vs rasowy
HBO vs KameZerg
Cross vs Razz
dxtr13 vs ZZZero
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
Classic vs Solar
herO vs Cure
Reynor vs GuMiho
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Solar vs Zoun
MaxPax vs Bunny
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Classic vs Creator
Cure vs TriGGeR
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 21 Points
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual

Upcoming

BSL Season 21
SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.