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TieN.nS)
Profile Joined August 2003
United States2131 Posts
November 18 2011 23:09 GMT
#41
EG hwaiting~~
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
November 18 2011 23:36 GMT
#42
No one knows if Hotshot is gonna be there or not? I remember Hotshot mentioning that he might be going to commentate and he sounded as if it was likely although not 100% certain. It'd be kind of cool to see him commentate some games with Phreak or Rivington.
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
November 18 2011 23:47 GMT
#43
On November 19 2011 08:36 overt wrote:
No one knows if Hotshot is gonna be there or not? I remember Hotshot mentioning that he might be going to commentate and he sounded as if it was likely although not 100% certain. It'd be kind of cool to see him commentate some games with Phreak or Rivington.


He's streaming right now so I doubt he's in Providence. He could have meant that he was going to commentate over the MLG stream, but that could get him into some trouble.
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dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
November 19 2011 00:04 GMT
#44
He'll just commentate audio only and tell his viewers to watch the official stream (and mute the audio lololol)
mufin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States616 Posts
November 19 2011 02:13 GMT
#45
rooting for epik to win,
I only make 5 actions per minute. But since I use all my time deliberating and planning, my 5 actions are so brutally devastating that children cry out and grown men weep.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
November 19 2011 02:28 GMT
#46
I'm surprised how popular Epik is.
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Schmieds
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States312 Posts
November 19 2011 02:54 GMT
#47
Pulling for TSM! Go Regibro )))
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freezaa
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany88 Posts
November 19 2011 03:02 GMT
#48
Hoping for TSM vs. Epik Finals and some cool comps and unsual champs. Dans Heimer vs. Regis LeBlanc in mid? :D
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
November 19 2011 03:37 GMT
#49
Now to sneak my way to the top of solo queue ladder while a large number of the good players are busy
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caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6421 Posts
November 19 2011 03:44 GMT
#50
I really want TSM to win and prove the worth of a gaming house. Dignitas is weaker than they look because all of them are busy with school and haven't been putting in the practice they want. EG is a wildcard and anything could happen. I'm thinking RFLX is going to pull some random strat and take a game from TSM and then lose.
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JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
November 19 2011 04:28 GMT
#51
Interesting stuff from the interview thread. Apparently MLG has some weird way of seeding and EG will be playing Dignitas first. This gives TSM a good chance to get to the winners finals.
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
November 19 2011 05:01 GMT
#52
On November 19 2011 13:28 JBright wrote:
Interesting stuff from the interview thread. Apparently MLG has some weird way of seeding and EG will be playing Dignitas first. This gives TSM a good chance to get to the winners finals.


A good chance...laugh. Unless Reflex has been practicing like madmen so they don't get walked all over and even then I'm not sure you can improve that much that quickly ^_^ Dignitas and Reflex weren't at Raleigh so I suspect they just flipped a coin to decide which got the higher seed. That's how they decide seeds for their sc2 event when people are tied or haven't played at an event yet at least.
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HPoirot
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1303 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-19 05:13:27
November 19 2011 05:02 GMT
#53
Just saw that. Real big fuck-up IMO. EG was the 2 seed(CLG was 1) in the qualifier so there's no way a remade bracket should result in them playing Dignitas or TSM. Not remaking the bracket means Dignitas plays RFLX. TSM is the only team there that has no logical reason to get the free win first round.

Edit: Watching Scarra's interview, they reseeded, told EG they were playing Reflex, then reseeded again and gave Reflex some of CLG's seed points so they became 3rd seed instead of Dignitas. That might be the most retarded seeding decision I have ever heard.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-19 05:24:01
November 19 2011 05:09 GMT
#54
On November 19 2011 14:02 HPoirot wrote:
Just saw that. Real big fuck-up IMO. EG was the 2 seed(CLG was 1) in the qualifier so there's no way a remade bracket should result in them playing Dignitas or TSM. Not remaking the bracket means Dignitas plays RFLX. TSM is the only team there that has no logical reason to get the free win first round.


How is that a fuck up? CLG got disqualified so unless you give Reflex their #1 seed which they don't deserve in the first place it's perfectly logical what happened.

EG #1
TSM #2

Reflex and Dignitas weren't at MLG Raleigh so they got seeded randomly as #3 and #4 (we can only guess this, but it's consistent with the sc2 portion of MLG)

Reflex #3
Dignitas #4

At least we get a Cinderella story when Dignitas takes the whole thing ^_^

EDIT: If that is true I think MLG fucked up, although it makes more sense than their extended series non sense that I already explained ^_^
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overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
November 19 2011 05:17 GMT
#55
On November 19 2011 14:02 HPoirot wrote:
Just saw that. Real big fuck-up IMO. EG was the 2 seed(CLG was 1) in the qualifier so there's no way a remade bracket should result in them playing Dignitas or TSM. Not remaking the bracket means Dignitas plays RFLX. TSM is the only team there that has no logical reason to get the free win first round.

Edit: Watching Scarra's interview, they reseeded, told EG they were playing Reflex, then reseeded again and gave Reflex some of CLG's seed points so they became 3rd seed instead of Dignitas. That might be the most retarded seeding decision I have ever heard.


o.o

How are people so bad at LoL tournaments?

And yeah if HSGG is streaming than he won't be at Providence. He said that there was a chance that Riot was going to fly him down there for commentate with Phreak/Rivington but I guess they decided not to or else he didn't want to.
HPoirot
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1303 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-19 05:39:44
November 19 2011 05:34 GMT
#56
On November 19 2011 14:09 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2011 14:02 HPoirot wrote:
Just saw that. Real big fuck-up IMO. EG was the 2 seed(CLG was 1) in the qualifier so there's no way a remade bracket should result in them playing Dignitas or TSM. Not remaking the bracket means Dignitas plays RFLX. TSM is the only team there that has no logical reason to get the free win first round.


How is that a fuck up? CLG got disqualified so unless you give Reflex their #1 seed which they don't deserve in the first place it's perfectly logical what happened.

EG #1
TSM #2

Reflex and Dignitas weren't at MLG Raleigh so they got seeded randomly as #3 and #4 (we can only guess this, but it's consistent with the sc2 portion of MLG)

Reflex #3
Dignitas #4

At least we get a Cinderella story when Dignitas takes the whole thing ^_^

Two options exist for creating the tournament bracket:
1. Carry over the qualifier bracket. This results in Reflex vs Dignitas, and TSM vs EG
2. Create a new bracket, based on seeds. EG and TSM are #1 and #2 respectively. Dignitas was seeded 5th in the qualifier(the highest seed team that wasn't at Raleigh) and Reflex was some seed outside of the top 8. Any logical reseeding should be based on these qualifier seeds and result in EG vs Reflex and TSM vs Dignitas.

According to Scarra's interview, MLG initially chose option 1.
Next, they switched to option 2.
They then decided that Reflex should get credit for some of CLG's points. This resulted in Reflex becoming a higher seed than Dignitas, causing the match-ups we have right now.

I would be fine with Dignitas or EG getting the free win. Continuing from the qualifier bracket or reseeding based on qualifier seeds are both perfectly logical options. Re-reseeding so the 2nd seed gets the easiest match first round can not be described as anything other than illogical and a fuck-up.

On the bright side, we're guaranteed an IPL finals re-match.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
November 19 2011 06:16 GMT
#57
Hmm, this tournament and how the extended series setup that MLG uses pretty much reinforces why I don't think double elimination is a very good idea for LoL tournaments. Games just take too long and traditional double elimination would make the finals too long while a modified version of it can potentially make the finals really disappointing. Knowing that the finals match could end up as either a single game or potentially seven games is kind of ridiculous.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-19 07:03:44
November 19 2011 06:58 GMT
#58
I just don't understand how you take part of CLG's seed points. Either they beat (and by beat we mean got destroyed, but got the walkover DQ) them and become the #1 seed or you just carry over seeding from MLG Raleigh. They didn't even take a game off of them ^_^ I could understand it a little better if it was 2-1 and then they got the walkover because of the DQ, but this is just ridiculous. Maybe the MLG rules next season will be better since league will actually be on the circuit hopefully.

Who did Dignitas play in the last round to qualify? As the #5 seed they should have played the #4 seed, but I don't remember who was at MLG Raleigh besides Dignitas not being there ^_^

So I'm guessing they beat Curse after looking at the teams. I couldn't find the results from the MLG website, but it sounds right. Did Dignitas get some of Curse's "seed points" from beating them or take their seed entirely? Is becoming the 3rd/4th seed higher than taking a part of the #1 seed? MLG rules are just great entertainment in general.

On November 19 2011 15:16 overt wrote:
Hmm, this tournament and how the extended series setup that MLG uses pretty much reinforces why I don't think double elimination is a very good idea for LoL tournaments. Games just take too long and traditional double elimination would make the finals too long while a modified version of it can potentially make the finals really disappointing. Knowing that the finals match could end up as either a single game or potentially seven games is kind of ridiculous.


It's only one less match in the absolute stupidest situation possible. The biggest error of it is if the teams haven't met before the grand finals in which case you get extra games to watch, but screw over the winner's bracket winner ^_^ I think my analysis of it was at the bottom of the first page if you're confused about the system.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
November 19 2011 07:02 GMT
#59
On November 19 2011 15:58 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
I just don't understand how you take part of CLG's seed points. Either they beat (and by beat we mean got destroyed, but got the walkover DQ) them and become the #1 seed or you just carry over seeding from MLG Raleigh. They didn't even take a game off of them ^_^ I could understand it a little better if it was 2-1 and then they got the walkover because of the DQ, but this is just ridiculous. Maybe the MLG rules next season will be better since league will actually be on the circuit hopefully.

Who did Dignitas play in the last round to qualify? As the #5 seed they should have played the #4 seed, but I don't remember who was at MLG Raleigh besides Dignitas not being there ^_^

So I'm guessing they beat Curse after looking at the teams. I couldn't find the results from the MLG website, but it sounds right. Did Dignitas get some of Curse's "seed points" from beating them or take their seed entirely? Is becoming the 3rd/4th seed higher than taking a part of the #1 seed? MLG rules are just great entertainment in general.

Im sure Marcou was involved somewhere.
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ddod
Profile Joined April 2009
Bulgaria144 Posts
November 19 2011 10:21 GMT
#60
On November 19 2011 16:02 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2011 15:58 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
I just don't understand how you take part of CLG's seed points. Either they beat (and by beat we mean got destroyed, but got the walkover DQ) them and become the #1 seed or you just carry over seeding from MLG Raleigh. They didn't even take a game off of them ^_^ I could understand it a little better if it was 2-1 and then they got the walkover because of the DQ, but this is just ridiculous. Maybe the MLG rules next season will be better since league will actually be on the circuit hopefully.

Who did Dignitas play in the last round to qualify? As the #5 seed they should have played the #4 seed, but I don't remember who was at MLG Raleigh besides Dignitas not being there ^_^

So I'm guessing they beat Curse after looking at the teams. I couldn't find the results from the MLG website, but it sounds right. Did Dignitas get some of Curse's "seed points" from beating them or take their seed entirely? Is becoming the 3rd/4th seed higher than taking a part of the #1 seed? MLG rules are just great entertainment in general.

Im sure Marcou was involved somewhere.

I second this wise and insightful man.
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