EPTHe's no PhantomL0rd but his Karth worked.
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
He's no PhantomL0rd but his Karth worked. | ||
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toastymow
United States254 Posts
On October 04 2011 13:08 Slow Motion wrote: Ocelote is the best player on SK period. LOL. IMO The best player on SK is either Nymph or Candy. Wickd is the worst, 100%, he's lost them so many games. >_> Ocelote is a douchebag and basically got Wetdream kicked from the team (even if Wetdream being a jerk certaintly didn't help his case). Ocelote is okay, but he's nothing compared to some of the AP players out there. You want a good AP player, go watch Crs NYJacky play Veigar or ReginaId who is so versitale and the best captain in the game, or lol, scarra and his Kat. | ||
JBright
Vancouver14381 Posts
On October 04 2011 13:10 Caphe wrote: I would pick that Karthus. Tanky and its him who win the fight to WE at the mid lane bushes where the whole Eh stay in his AOE while only Akali rush in to 1v3 WE I would have to agree on the Karthus. It seems like the other players didn't really stand out too much. Maybe that's a good thing since it means the whole team is solid rather than 1 or 2 players carrying. Probably an honorable mention to WW since he did get that baron steal. | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On October 04 2011 13:12 aliasds wrote: I'd pick whoever stole that baron for MVP. I'm assuming WW? WW smite steal indeed. | ||
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kdgns
United States2427 Posts
On October 04 2011 13:09 dnastyx wrote: Oh, there are usually lots of kills every game. I actually don't know where that stereotype came from D: In an equal-length game, you can usually expect about the same number of kills in a DoTA game as you do in LoL. EDIT: Early game has a lot less "mistakes" though, so the teamfights and ganks are stacked toward mid-endgame. Actually, its due to EHOME's dota team, they basically figured out how to defend the high ground indefinately, with multiple buybacks so teams literally could not attack the tower unless they kill the other team twice, it dragged the game out, even though kills stacked up. This led to the buyback timer that icefrog introduced to counter the pure defense strat, it also lead to the popularity of lone druid as the main carry (20 min radiance, 22 min phase boots, 30 min hyperstone/assault cuirass => endless tower pushing with 0 chance to die since you are using your bear)_ | ||
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dnastyx
United States2707 Posts
On October 04 2011 13:12 toastymow wrote: LOL. IMO The best player on SK is either Nymph or Candy. Wickd is the worst, 100%, he's lost them so many games. >_> Ocelote is a douchebag and basically got Wetdream kicked from the team (even if Wetdream being a jerk certaintly didn't help his case). Ocelote is okay, but he's nothing compared to some of the AP players out there. You want a good AP player, go watch Crs NYJacky play Veigar or ReginaId who is so versitale and the best captain in the game, or lol, scarra and his Kat. Best SK player is definitely Nyph...Candy is a close second. | ||
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MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
On October 04 2011 13:13 dnastyx wrote: Best SK player is definitely Nyph...Candy is a close second. Nyph+CandyPanda are amazing because of the synergy between them. They've played together so much. Candy even said that if Nyph left SK, he'd leave too. | ||
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dtz
5834 Posts
On October 04 2011 13:12 toastymow wrote: LOL. IMO The best player on SK is either Nymph or Candy. Wickd is the worst, 100%, he's lost them so many games. >_> Ocelote is a douchebag and basically got Wetdream kicked from the team (even if Wetdream being a jerk certaintly didn't help his case). Ocelote is okay, but he's nothing compared to some of the AP players out there. You want a good AP player, go watch Crs NYJacky play Veigar or ReginaId who is so versitale and the best captain in the game, or lol, scarra and his Kat. I'd agree. The Nyph-Candy lane is no doubt SK's greatest strength. I have very rarely seen that duo got outplayed / lost their lane. But lately i've really been liking Snoopeh's ganks and initiations. I feel like he is really clutch and does well when it counts. ( Plus he always save ocelote when he is losing mid with very nice ganks) | ||
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tyCe
Australia2542 Posts
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On October 04 2011 13:13 dnastyx wrote: Best SK player is definitely Nyph...Candy is a close second. Seconded. Oce is a good AP player. He just looks better than he really is because he plays a carry role and secures kills. (imo) Mechanically, doing everything needed and necessary with his champion's kit, Nyph makes his supports shine. | ||
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MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
On October 04 2011 13:15 tyCe wrote: Why are you guys so defensive about me talking Dignitas down? I'm just hyped because I've never seen such back and forth action in any NA/EU pro-matches and none with that degree of teamfight control. China offers good competition, but it's hard to use Dignitas as the benchmark or to proclaim that China will beat the world. Both teams had some pretty bad mistakes. Perhaps in the future though!  | ||
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dnastyx
United States2707 Posts
On October 04 2011 13:15 tyCe wrote: Why are you guys so defensive about me talking Dignitas down? I'm just hyped because I've never seen such back and forth action in any NA/EU pro-matches and none with that degree of teamfight control. You need to watch RS more often then It's also because your statement implied that they'd lose to these Chinese teams, which you can argue about for however long you like, but it hasn't happened yet. If you had left out the first part about dissing RS, no one would contest your statement. | ||
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MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
On October 04 2011 13:15 dtz wrote: I'd agree. The Nyph-Candy lane is no doubt SK's greatest strength. I have very rarely seen that duo got outplayed / lost their lane. But lately i've really been liking Snoopeh's ganks and initiations. I feel like he is really clutch and does well when it counts. ( Plus he always save ocelote when he is losing mid with very nice ganks) Snoopeh was a good addition for SK. But he's no Jatt/SaintV/TOO. It's a problem with a lot of EU Teams. There's no real superstar jungler. They're all good, but nothing amazing. | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On October 04 2011 13:15 tyCe wrote: Why are you guys so defensive about me talking Dignitas down? I'm just hyped because I've never seen such back and forth action in any NA/EU pro-matches and none with that degree of teamfight control. Not defensive. You just made a stupid comment and some of us are replying towards that. From one game, you're declaring that one of the premiere NA teams can't stand on equal ground with Ehome/WEGIGA. what? Edit: what DNA said is also correct. It's questionable whether or not Dignitas is the "best" NA team atm. But they are definitely the cleanest. Out of their recent tourney matches, they rarely make drastic mistakes. This last game, there were plenty of mistakes made. Though it did contribute to the back and forth tempo, which made it fun to watch. | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On October 04 2011 13:15 tyCe wrote: Why are you guys so defensive about me talking Dignitas down? I'm just hyped because I've never seen such back and forth action in any NA/EU pro-matches and none with that degree of teamfight control. Dignitas fanboy ^_^ While the aggressive style is more fun to watch it also caused quite a few mistakes that cost ehome the game (the early invasion where they threw advantage away and then losing baron). | ||
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Aus.Force
Australia1278 Posts
On October 04 2011 13:13 dnastyx wrote: Best SK player is definitely Nyph...Candy is a close second. gonna have to agree. wickd just isn't mature enough, and tends to buckle under any form of pressure. oce has improved a lot lately, and his attitude has gotten so much better. i think he finally realised after the wetdream fiasco that he needs to mature and act a bit more professional if they want esports and LoL to work. | ||
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MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
On October 04 2011 13:17 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: Dignitas fanboy ^_^ While the aggressive style is more fun to watch it also caused quite a few mistakes that cost ehome the game (the early invasion where they threw advantage away and then losing baron). I would say you're stubborn like SKT Fanbois. But everyone knows that CLG Fanbois are the equivalent of SKT Fanbois~ | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On October 04 2011 13:17 MoonBear wrote: Snoopeh was a good addition for SK. But he's no Jatt/SaintV/TOO. It's a problem with a lot of EU Teams. There's no real superstar jungler. They're all good, but nothing amazing. Eh, no. "good" is an overstatement imo, haha. I don't feel like SK's jungle presence has changed any since picking up Snoopeh. | ||
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daemir
Finland8662 Posts
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Cixah
United States11285 Posts
Though I will say that I think Dignitas would have most likely taken this tournament without a whole lot of difficulty. | ||
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