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bigjenk
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1543 Posts
August 20 2011 18:45 GMT
#2841
wtb game 1 restream or vod nodded off for a bit after clg game, damn you eu tournament times.
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AsianEcksDragon
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1036 Posts
August 20 2011 18:47 GMT
#2842
On August 21 2011 03:41 bigjenk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 03:40 AsianEcksDragon wrote:
On August 21 2011 03:37 bigjenk wrote:
On August 21 2011 03:35 AsianEcksDragon wrote:
Are tanks going obsolete now? I've been seeing lots of team pass up on a tank and have their entire team build tanky (Rod of Age, Wits end etc.)


Irelia generally builds tanks as most tanks. One offensive item that still gives hp is the standard build.


She's still a tanky dps. I've been seeing a lot of Irelia, Singed, Cho gath, and GP. Alistar is the only support tank being used because he simply doesn't need farm while others like Shen and Maokai are no where to be seen.



Define tank then? Shen, rammus and amumu only ones that don't build any offense generally(even amumu go abyssal late often)


That's pretty much the definition of a tank. Guys like Irelia and Rumble are tanky dps/mage because that deal damage but don't have any utility to protect a squishy.
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Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
August 20 2011 18:47 GMT
#2843
On August 21 2011 03:45 DarthThienAn wrote:
i really don't understand why they have kelly do these interviews..

To make them as awkward and hilarious as possible (especially with the European players who are less fluent in English). I mean just check out her interview with Ocelote for some laughs.
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
August 20 2011 18:50 GMT
#2844
On August 21 2011 03:47 Slow Motion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 03:45 DarthThienAn wrote:
i really don't understand why they have kelly do these interviews..

To make them as awkward and hilarious as possible (especially with the European players who are less fluent in English). I mean just check out her interview with Ocelote for some laughs.

it doesn't even seem like she 1) understands the basics of the game or 2) watched the games that just happened...
and she's asked regi the same set of questions like 4 times too lol.
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Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-20 18:52:35
August 20 2011 18:52 GMT
#2845
Gotta say that jax pick from chaox completely fucked up fnatic, really balsy to pull him out in the final game when you never see chaox play him normally.
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DarkRise
Profile Joined November 2010
1644 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-20 18:56:27
August 20 2011 18:54 GMT
#2846
On August 21 2011 03:52 Senx wrote:
Gotta say that jax pick from chaox completely fucked up fnatic, really balsy to pull him out in the final game when you never see chaox play him normally.


I agree!! Zilean + Jax is kinda OP atm
Jax just jump on any squishies while being revive by Zilean
Double AP vs no AD
The good thing about double AP is that they can stay in the back doing damage but Jax can just jump to them and kill them.
bigjenk
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1543 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-20 18:58:36
August 20 2011 18:54 GMT
#2847
On August 21 2011 03:47 AsianEcksDragon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 03:41 bigjenk wrote:
On August 21 2011 03:40 AsianEcksDragon wrote:
On August 21 2011 03:37 bigjenk wrote:
On August 21 2011 03:35 AsianEcksDragon wrote:
Are tanks going obsolete now? I've been seeing lots of team pass up on a tank and have their entire team build tanky (Rod of Age, Wits end etc.)


Irelia generally builds tanks as most tanks. One offensive item that still gives hp is the standard build.


She's still a tanky dps. I've been seeing a lot of Irelia, Singed, Cho gath, and GP. Alistar is the only support tank being used because he simply doesn't need farm while others like Shen and Maokai are no where to be seen.



Define tank then? Shen, rammus and amumu only ones that don't build any offense generally(even amumu go abyssal late often)


That's pretty much the definition of a tank. Guys like Irelia and Rumble are tanky dps/mage because that deal damage but don't have any utility to protect a squishy.


So your asking why they aren't played when shen is super nerfed from when he was pickable and rammus is considered a weak jungle by many, amumu is still played quite a bit eu side. Singed is pretty much the definition of tank, he just needs items to not be ignorable, his whole kit is zoning, kiting and getting carry in range, jarvan is considered a tank but most top level players build at least 1 or 2 offensive items on him otherwise he is useless. I mean if you pick shen and a support in a game(ignoring the fact his lane is shit and he can't really jungle) you have 2 characters that do 0 damage late game(carries will have banshees your q + passive does like 5 percent of their health), you have a one second disable with mercs. Jax has just as much cc and does 10x more damage, and is still tanky as shit. Irelia does way more damage heals for a fair amount and gets just as tanky with super cc reduction. Honestly the only way amumu is good is for aoe/double mage for his passive as well as his ult.

Plus if you look at dota it is pretty much the same thing(diff mechanics ignored) tanky dps >tanks. Also amumu is pretty much tanky dps since tears+e+sunfire is a lot of constant damage(on par or more than singed)
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bigjenk
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1543 Posts
August 20 2011 18:55 GMT
#2848
On August 21 2011 03:52 Senx wrote:
Gotta say that jax pick from chaox completely fucked up fnatic, really balsy to pull him out in the final game when you never see chaox play him normally.


Honestly he was really passive, if that was dyrus they would have forced bot lane back every few waves and forced a jungle babysit.
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Bulldozer
Profile Joined October 2010
United States89 Posts
August 20 2011 19:04 GMT
#2849
The one thing I like about maokai as a tank is in lane he can punish those out of position, provide limited sight with acorns as mini wards, and once level 7, is able to farm if he needs to after babysitting the carry. As someone who thinks the champ is awesome, I'd flip shit if I saw him played
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bigjenk
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1543 Posts
August 20 2011 19:04 GMT
#2850
Great to see both american teams gonna make money considering travel+lodging was like per team, while the eu teams didn't have to really pay for anything.
Ignore my opinions I am bad
bigjenk
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1543 Posts
August 20 2011 19:05 GMT
#2851
Just to credit it dyrus was one of the big forces behind beating double ap with singed top and soraka jax bot, since he is the master of both.
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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13926 Posts
August 20 2011 19:15 GMT
#2852
really cool to see CLG vs TSM in finals. We're gona get a rematch of that at MLG too can't wait.
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Psyqo
Profile Joined November 2007
United States401 Posts
August 20 2011 19:16 GMT
#2853
On August 21 2011 04:04 bigjenk wrote:
Great to see both american teams gonna make money considering travel+lodging was like per team, while the eu teams didn't have to really pay for anything.


This is especially important for their sponsors to see just how damn good they are, and should also coax the sponsors into fucking buying in and ponying up the cash to send these teams to future tournaments. The fact that they had to do so much stuff just to finance their own way there is pretty sad on the part of the sponsors.
Shawngood
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany473 Posts
August 20 2011 19:17 GMT
#2854
If you guys have an account on the ESL website (NESL is working as well!) make sure to vote for the MVP of the tournament: http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season6/cologne/news/168604/
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CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
August 20 2011 19:35 GMT
#2855
Wow, TSM and CLG are both doing really well. Go america

Was kinda scared for CLG.
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
bigjenk
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1543 Posts
August 20 2011 19:35 GMT
#2856
On August 21 2011 04:16 Psyqo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 04:04 bigjenk wrote:
Great to see both american teams gonna make money considering travel+lodging was like per team, while the eu teams didn't have to really pay for anything.


This is especially important for their sponsors to see just how damn good they are, and should also coax the sponsors into fucking buying in and ponying up the cash to send these teams to future tournaments. The fact that they had to do so much stuff just to finance their own way there is pretty sad on the part of the sponsors.


Yeah it is so much easier for an eu sponsor to cover travel since it costs what 400$ Since esports so centralized around germany pretty much costs what 400$ for milenium to travel there? So many na teams are so spread apart and Us is so big even mlg events cost a big chunk of cash to fly to, which is part of why the eu esports scene tends to be much bigger.
Ignore my opinions I am bad
bigjenk
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1543 Posts
August 20 2011 19:36 GMT
#2857
On August 21 2011 04:35 CeriseCherries wrote:
Wow, TSM and CLG are both doing really well. Go america

Was kinda scared for CLG.


Yeah from mid game 2 was so scared for them especially after picks game 3 and the irelia free farm but saint so strong that game put his rape face on.
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NEOtheONE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2233 Posts
August 20 2011 19:39 GMT
#2858
For those watching the Dominion show matches, anyone else think that revive/teleport Karthus would be pretty broken for this game mode? Think about it. He parks over the point with his E up and if he dies that's 7 seconds that the other team cannot capture, and then he revives and teleports back into the fray.
Abstracts, the too long didn't read of the educated world.
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
August 20 2011 19:40 GMT
#2859
On August 21 2011 04:39 NEOtheONE wrote:
For those watching the Dominion show matches, anyone else think that revive/teleport Karthus would be pretty broken for this game mode? Think about it. He parks over the point with his E up and if he dies that's 7 seconds that the other team cannot capture, and then he revives and teleports back into the fray.

Can't select Teleport, and Revive is likely not so attractive if its cooldown is like 1/3 of the length of the game.
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Belgo
Profile Joined September 2009
United States721 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-20 19:50:20
August 20 2011 19:43 GMT
#2860
So, I was watching the re-runs of the semis on the official riot page. I had to refresh and now its dominion play.

Did I break it some how, or just had ee han timing for when they started the dominion stuff?

Edit: Never mind, I'm a silly billy. Official Iem stream is rerunning. Clg shall rain supreme.
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