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On February 09 2013 03:17 SidianTheBard wrote: I really think hextech into seekers armguards (or vice versa) would be so amazing in lane, especially if you're facing an AD. Getting Zhoyna's is always a great item for Vlad because with that and pool you just stay alive forever in team fights. Do your full combo, pool, do full combo, zhoynas, do full combo, pool, etc etc.
Will have to experiment with that build and maybe I'll give this Rylais/Liadry's build a try, I haven't played Vlad too much recently but with the kennen buff and seekers I was playing Kennen a bit more...and since vlad and kennen work so well together why not try out vlad again. :D Seekers is probably a good choice in a heavy AD lane, I have just been defaulting to Guise because of the "double synergy" of a HP/AP item. However, I could definitely see Seeker's against a Xin/Panth/Riven type, especially if you start Cloth for the early game.
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On January 02 2013 07:41 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2013 07:40 GhandiEAGLE wrote: Haunting guise is a fun, fast pickup, but I haven't turned it into Liandry's very much yet. I think he didn't get changed too hardcore, playstyle-wise He gets the bonus 10% damage or whatever from Liandrys since pool slows them doesnt he? Seems like it'd be pretty decent on him imo.
Ehhhhh you shouldn't be using your pool for any offensive actions. It does sync well but if you are using your pool cd during teamfights for no particular reason (not using it to dodge stuns/skills shots) but only for dps then something wrong is going on (your team is annihilating the opposing team).
I dunno, if you ult 4 people then pool with a revolver, you will most likely heal up all of the damage you did to yourself, especially since pool boots healing rates. It also does a massive amount of damage. I have won 2v5s just doing that (albeit with an eve, and I was really fed)
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So should I even get Revolver/WotA on Vlad anymore? I feel like Liandry's/Rylai/Zhonya are all just stronger options.
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I still get revolver because it allows you to spam E a lot better/easier. Once you get it you can control the wave so much more.
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On April 23 2013 04:47 Requizen wrote: So should I even get Revolver/WotA on Vlad anymore? I feel like Liandry's/Rylai/Zhonya are all just stronger options. I still like revolver, dont have to turn it into WotA till way later, its still good in lane imo.
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Some people have been experimenting with turning it into Wraith Spirit because it's cheap, and dat cooldown. I like it a lot IMO, but WotA has its uses in the right comps
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Not getting Revolver sounds like a terrible idea.
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On April 23 2013 12:34 GhandiEAGLE wrote: Some people have been experimenting with turning it into Wraith Spirit because it's cheap, and dat cooldown. I like it a lot IMO, but WotA has its uses in the right comps
That 10% CDR feels so godlike. It's also great if you're playing Vlad and get to farm jungle creeps cause you just melt them.
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If you're mid lane Vlad it should definitely be worth it to it into spectral wraith since you can farm wraiths/wolves easier - from top lane it's all about preference imo and depends whether you feel like you need the extra vamp+CDR.
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What are peoples thoughts on getting both WotA and Wraith? Is it just too much money for not enough return?
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On April 26 2013 10:43 HREParabola wrote: What are peoples thoughts on getting both WotA and Wraith? Is it just too much money for not enough return?
I can't see that working in too many situations. Unless you are mid, running double ap with a magic damage jungler, and laning for 30 minutes it probably is too much of an investment for a stat that doesn't translate into very much real power.
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On April 26 2013 10:43 HREParabola wrote: What are peoples thoughts on getting both WotA and Wraith? Is it just too much money for not enough return?
Don't you think 40% spellvamp is overkill?
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On April 26 2013 10:43 HREParabola wrote: What are peoples thoughts on getting both WotA and Wraith? Is it just too much money for not enough return? Spellvamp scales better with AP than more Spellvamp.
Imagine going for 100% crit while you have no AD or AS.
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just got vlad and have been playing him top a lot. I am still trying to get a feel for how to build him. I have been starting with boots and 4 pots unless I need a ward at lvl 1. I go revolver into hourglass my main problem is I would like to get some cdr on him but not sure where to get it. I am not a fan of Wraith Spirit. against an ap heavy team I have been grabing spirit visage but otherwise i am wondering if cdr boots viable on him or do u need magic pen boots? also is the mana stats make unholy grail make it a waste on vlad?
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I main vlad and probably have several hundred games with him and I personally get cdr boots.
Then again I'm a bronze scrub.
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On July 03 2013 08:59 IamPryda wrote: just got vlad and have been playing him top a lot. I am still trying to get a feel for how to build him. I have been starting with boots and 4 pots unless I need a ward at lvl 1. I go revolver into hourglass my main problem is I would like to get some cdr on him but not sure where to get it. I am not a fan of Wraith Spirit. against an ap heavy team I have been grabing spirit visage but otherwise i am wondering if cdr boots viable on him or do u need magic pen boots? also is the mana stats make unholy grail make it a waste on vlad?
I'm no vlad expert but cdr boots are quite common on him. I think grail has too much mana to be worthwhile, if you wanted an AP/CDR item Morellos or DFG would be better choices, but I can't comment on whether these are actually good buys on Vladimir
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I haven't played Vlad much, but CDR boots+DFG+masteries puts you at that sweet 40% cdr easily.
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Oftentimes, I find that lategame, combo pool combo zhonyas combo is usually enough, since those periods of invulnerability let you get it back. I also build Wraith Spirit (although I haven't played Vlad since Wraith nerf although I assume it's still good), and am curious as to why you're not a fan of it. It's a pretty cheap power spike for Vlad.
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There are two schools of thought when it comes to vlad.
mpen+tankiness via
sorcs, liandry's, rylais, abyssal, void/dcap, hourglass
and CDR + AP
CDR boots, spectral wraith, hourglass, DFG, Dcap, Void.
Spirit visage is pretty terrible on vlad. You need a revolver item to synergize with it and . Abyssal is much better since it gives MR and a LOT more damage.
Having a revolver item increases your pressure in lane by a massive margin since your E heals for a lot and you can shove relentlessly but I'm not personally too big of a fan of it since for ~250 more gold, a haunting guise makes you tankier against all-ins/ganks and gives a massive amount of damage. You can't shove the lane quite as hard but zoning the other laner is better IMO.
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Can someone who is better at LoL than me explain why I should be getting spectral wraith and why I shouldn't be getting revolver/wota? Also why should I be getting liandry's over abyssal scepter?
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