EPTI don't think you could accomplish that in the jungle.
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Haemonculus
United States6980 Posts
I don't think you could accomplish that in the jungle. | ||
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
On December 19 2011 06:10 goldenkrnboi wrote: has anybody tried singed jungle? i've seen it a bit on streams and ranked games (though my ELO is pretty low, so) but i have no idea what the proper build would be for him that seems like it would be mind-numbingly slow, plus his ganks would only be okish (goop is good, but fling can be iffy) | ||
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Cosmology
Canada360 Posts
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On December 19 2011 06:10 goldenkrnboi wrote: has anybody tried singed jungle? i've seen it a bit on streams and ranked games (though my ELO is pretty low, so) but i have no idea what the proper build would be for him i used to before they changed masteries/jungle it was pretty slow, plus if they make it out of goop and you dont hit them with fling its kinda worthless. unless they got like a stun or something | ||
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Cosmology
Canada360 Posts
basically what I'm asking is, can a good singed player succeed in most lanes and farm well? | ||
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57 Corvette
Canada5941 Posts
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Lightswarm
Canada966 Posts
On December 24 2011 12:44 Cosmology wrote: I have heard the Singed loses a LOT of top lane match ups, do you guys think it would be wise to make singed my main tank and lets say im 3rd pick, pick him if they haven't picked theit top yet? or is he way too easy to shut down? basically what I'm asking is, can a good singed player succeed in most lanes and farm well? he is shut down until he gets catalyst. pure and simple | ||
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Haemonculus
United States6980 Posts
You can even die a few times and it's no big deal as long as you eventually get that crazy CS count. Eventually you are an unstoppable freight train and incredibly annoying in team fights! | ||
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Haasts
New Zealand4445 Posts
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Ecael
United States6703 Posts
On January 15 2012 22:30 Haasts wrote: So, what's the deal with all the jungle Singeds running amok at the moment? 9/21/0 or 0/21/9, and do you have to run AP runes Maokai style, or are you fine w/a defensive/mspeed setup? You can run defensive/ms setup but I have been considering AP to make the first clear smoother and be content with using shurelia/ghost/ult as the only speed boosts. I've been running 9util, but don't see why 9 off wouldn't work really. Probably comes down to preference. On December 19 2011 10:19 travis wrote: I have tried jungle singed, and it was hilarious slow and pretty bad. The speed is average from 1~4, after 5 though q spam is pretty fast and efficient at anything but buffs. | ||
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broz0rs
United States2294 Posts
On January 15 2012 22:30 Haasts wrote: So, what's the deal with all the jungle Singeds running amok at the moment? 9/21/0 or 0/21/9, and do you have to run AP runes Maokai style, or are you fine w/a defensive/mspeed setup? it's because of Dyrus and TheOddOne creating a bandwagon effect. Still thinks he sucks ass as jungler. | ||
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Saeglopur
Canada177 Posts
http://www.leaguereplays.com/replays/match/149872/ This is around 1600+ elo. | ||
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Haasts
New Zealand4445 Posts
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noggnoskill
United States97 Posts
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Haasts
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xbankx
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Singed's real bad matchup is kayle and lulu. These two matchups are so hard if they counterpick with them. I rather just go to support position and let soraka top or something. \Many people think rumble, teemo, vlad counter singed but at my elo you can easily outplay them. Teemo can be hard if you play it wrong lvl 2 and lvl 3. I generally all in teemo at lvl 2 burnin my ghost and ignite. Diving onto him flip autoattack psn while moving along side him to continuously deal psn damage. Many teemo people doesn't actually realize singed actually beats teemo if singed doesnt get kited. Rumble is an decent matchup. I usually go in at last tick of flamethrow, take a point of damage then flip him into my range creeps then proceed to psn+punch him. Im sure at higher elo 1800+ maybe, they won't work but right now I generally outdamage rumble and beat him in lane. Vlad beat you at lvl 7 or so where his 2 spells begin chunking you and have good kill potential with ult+ignite but if you get a good gank and get a kill early and get an catalyst. You can shove him 2-3 wave then roam a bit to gank and counter jungle. Vlad matchup really focuses on singed running around for ganks+objectives because vlad outscales singed really hard so your team has to do all the carrying. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On August 10 2012 10:56 xbankx wrote: So I actually been maining singed for about 3 weeks already around 80 games. Got about 60-65% win rate on him between 1400-1600 elo. Singed's real bad matchup is kayle and lulu. These two matchups are so hard if they counterpick with them. I rather just go to support position and let soraka top or something. \Many people think rumble, teemo, vlad counter singed but at my elo you can easily outplay them. Teemo can be hard if you play it wrong lvl 2 and lvl 3. I generally all in teemo at lvl 2 burnin my ghost and ignite. Diving onto him flip autoattack psn while moving along side him to continuously deal psn damage. Many teemo people doesn't actually realize singed actually beats teemo if singed doesnt get kited. Rumble is an decent matchup. I usually go in at last tick of flamethrow, take a point of damage then flip him into my range creeps then proceed to psn+punch him. Im sure at higher elo 1800+ maybe, they won't work but right now I generally outdamage rumble and beat him in lane. Vlad beat you at lvl 7 or so where his 2 spells begin chunking you and have good kill potential with ult+ignite but if you get a good gank and get a kill early and get an catalyst. You can shove him 2-3 wave then roam a bit to gank and counter jungle. Vlad matchup really focuses on singed running around for ganks+objectives because vlad outscales singed really hard so your team has to do all the carrying. I'm a kayle maining player and I just have to say that's it's not even as close as you think it is. I mean I get that kayle is probably one of the best counters to singed, and I will bully you and prevent you from csing until at least level 3 while trying not to push as hard as I can and warding for ganks. But if I ever get flinged, the trade only goes mildly in my favor as long as I don't chase and stay in position to auto you. I'll probably end up winning lane and pushing lanes back fast enough to not let it hit my tower, and force you back a lot, but not enough to take tower. Eventually, best case scenario I'll take your tower but if I leave my tower you can take it. And you're still pretty dang tanky mid game. Also, same as teemo. No mr kayle takes a lot of damage from a fling. Kayle wins a lot of matchups hard but there are some that aren't won as easily as others. If I start boots + 3pot I can be ganked by a jungler once you activate my E and run away, since I will push the wave. If I start boots + 1 ward + pot, then I only have 150 life to spare before damage becomes permanent. If I start anything other than boots I can't really kite very well. | ||
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Arisen
United States2382 Posts
1) When do you go for GP10's, and how do they interact with your early catalyst? Do you completely skip the catalyst and go straight to raylais after, or do you still go for catalyst, etc. When are GP10s a really good idea versus it being better to rush catalyst? 2) For an intermediate singed player, is it better to run exhaust/ghost or TP ghost, and what mastery setup is better if you are using TP? I like running TP, but I'm not sure if I want to run utility masteries when I'm not 100% confident in winning my lane (defensive masteries help a lot), and TP's CD is just so long without mastermind. Should I just run exhaust, or should I half ass use TP? | ||
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Craton
United States17250 Posts
TP is good in lanes where you don't have much kill potential, but also don't have much threat from the enemy lane. I usually don't take TP because lower level / Elo players are very bad at taking advantage of TP and I don't play Singed on my main. | ||
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