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On May 07 2015 05:36 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2015 05:34 Ramiz1989 wrote:On May 07 2015 05:27 Musicus wrote:On May 07 2015 05:25 MyrionSC wrote:
Wtf, do adepts have 2 base armor or something? Bio just doesn't touch them.. 1 base armor, but guardian shield is good, plus 180 hp. Also Protoss isn't weak, beta changes fast, zerg is the weakest now according to Honor at least, who is Protoss but plays all 3 races in LotV right now. I will take everything with a grain of salt, since the game isn't even figured out yet. I am not sure exactly how weak Zerg is with Lurkers and new almost broken Swarm Hosts. Not even mentioning that Vipers became Defilers of SC2 now with Parasitic Bomb because they are countering everything now, funny thing is that most of the people forget about that ability and just get crushed by enemy air. Late game Cracklings and 8 armor Ultralisks take the lead. Yes Ravagers are nerfed, and they really need to be redesigned into something else, but I doubt that Zerg is the weakest race, unless you are looking just into the early game where they seem a bit weaker since Ravager nerf. Yeah the problem seems to be that zerg just dies in the early game or is always behind after the early game, thanks to new Reapers and Adepts. But who cares, it's the beta, it's good that zerg has to use other units than the ravager for a while until Blizzard puts them back into the game.
I agree, but still it just feels like that they didn't adapt to the new Reapers and Adepts yet. Ravagers are just big Roaches right now, that are also weaker and it doesn't make any sense lol. Only reason you would use them right now is against Force Fields and that's it.
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I will admit, it will be interesting to watch a gateway unit with a large amount of shield compared to hitpoints. Might force ghosts into play again. Or atleast a lot of widow mines  We'll see.
The adept certainly looks like a core unit right now.
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On May 07 2015 05:40 Ramiz1989 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2015 05:36 Musicus wrote:On May 07 2015 05:34 Ramiz1989 wrote:On May 07 2015 05:27 Musicus wrote:On May 07 2015 05:25 MyrionSC wrote:
Wtf, do adepts have 2 base armor or something? Bio just doesn't touch them.. 1 base armor, but guardian shield is good, plus 180 hp. Also Protoss isn't weak, beta changes fast, zerg is the weakest now according to Honor at least, who is Protoss but plays all 3 races in LotV right now. I will take everything with a grain of salt, since the game isn't even figured out yet. I am not sure exactly how weak Zerg is with Lurkers and new almost broken Swarm Hosts. Not even mentioning that Vipers became Defilers of SC2 now with Parasitic Bomb because they are countering everything now, funny thing is that most of the people forget about that ability and just get crushed by enemy air. Late game Cracklings and 8 armor Ultralisks take the lead. Yes Ravagers are nerfed, and they really need to be redesigned into something else, but I doubt that Zerg is the weakest race, unless you are looking just into the early game where they seem a bit weaker since Ravager nerf. Yeah the problem seems to be that zerg just dies in the early game or is always behind after the early game, thanks to new Reapers and Adepts. But who cares, it's the beta, it's good that zerg has to use other units than the ravager for a while until Blizzard puts them back into the game. I agree, but still it just feels like that they didn't adapt to the new Reapers and Adepts yet. Ravagers are just big Roaches right now, that are also weaker and it doesn't make any sense lol. Only reason you would use them right now is against Force Fields and that's it.
Yeah I think they should patch Ravagers back again and make them Lair tech instead. Maybe give zerg hatch tech Hydras, without the speed/range upgrade of course which would stay Lair tech.
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Japan1927 Posts
On May 07 2015 05:27 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2015 05:25 MyrionSC wrote:
Wtf, do adepts have 2 base armor or something? Bio just doesn't touch them.. 1 base armor, but guardian shield is good, plus 180 hp. Also Protoss isn't weak, beta changes fast, zerg is the weakest now according to AI.Honor at least, who is Protoss but plays all 3 races in LotV right now.Oh and KiWiKaKi is a god . Edit: Also there is the plus 50 shield upgrade for adepts, I think they might just be good as a core unit with that, even in later stages.
Oh god, the balance comments in this thread are so far gone it's depressing. The number of threads on this kind of thing are overwhelming.
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I really don't see how zerg is the weakest as well. They just got so much new powerful stuff to work with. 8 armor ultras, lurkers, vipers, real cracklings (personal favorite :p ). I guess the problem right now is surviving till the good parts.
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On May 07 2015 05:45 MyrionSC wrote:
I really don't see how zerg is the weakest as well. They just got so much new powerful stuff to work with. 8 armor ultras, lurkers, vipers, real cracklings (personal favorite :p ). I guess the problem right now is surviving till the good parts.
Exactly, if zerg gets to the midgame without falling behind early, they are absolutely now weak at all. Just doesn't seem to happen right now .
It's completely normal too and nothing too worry about, Blizzard just doesn't want to see Ravagers every game.
But now look at early game buffs for each race and you will see Zerg got none, while Adepts and Reapers are going ham. Could also be zergs adapt and learn to defend in the next weeks without a patch.
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The thing is when you take a look at those ZvX early games, all of the Zerg players are doing quite a big mistakes against Reapers/Tank Drops etc. We can't really judge about ZvX until we see top Koreans in the current state of the game but even without them game will probably change in 1-2 weeks.
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On May 07 2015 05:53 Ramiz1989 wrote:
The thing is when you take a look at those ZvX early games, all of the Zerg players are doing quite a big mistakes against Reapers/Tank Drops etc. We can't really judge about ZvX until we see top Koreans in the current state of the game but even without them game will probably change in 1-2 weeks.
Yeah I'm just talking state of the beta right now, with the players playing right now. Nobody knows what would happen when Life touches the game. That would be sick.
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Are there going to be vods for all of tonight's games?
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On May 07 2015 07:19 robopork wrote:
Are there going to be vods for all of tonight's games?
Probably, BasetradeTV usually upload VODs on their Youtube channel and I guess you can also watch them on twitch listed under the "past broadcasts".
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Woah KiWiKaKi. I haven't seen him play since what... 3 years ? Can't wait to watch his matches in the tournament !
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On May 07 2015 05:27 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2015 05:25 MyrionSC wrote:
Wtf, do adepts have 2 base armor or something? Bio just doesn't touch them.. 1 base armor, but guardian shield is good, plus 180 hp. Also Protoss isn't weak, beta changes fast, zerg early game is the weakest now according to AI.Honor at least, who is Protoss but plays all 3 races in LotV right now. Oh and KiWiKaKi is a god . Edit: Also there is the plus 50 shield upgrade for adepts, I think they might just be good as a core unit with that, even in later stages. Edit 2: Changed "zerg is the waekest" to "zerg early game is the waekest", to avoid confusion.
protoss is by far the weakest race in lotv, zerg is the best
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At the moment TakeTv is showing "challanger matches" for the league:
True vs Heart and Slivko vs Huk fight for the last 2 invite slots on twitch.tv/takeTv (german)
True plays with the account of patience, Heart with the account of duncan
Invited players: Patience, PartinG, Harstem, Bly, MMA and the strongest of them all, TBA
The 3 qualified players: Semper, Kiwikaki and Iaguz.
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The Players are up completly:
Lambo
Harstem
GoOdy
TargA
BeastyQT
MaNa
HeRoMaRinE
DIMAGA
CranK
MMA
PartinG
Stephano
QXC
Nercio
Patience
Bly
KiWiKaKi
Iaguz
Semper
DeMuslim after some missunderstandings he will be part of it
Today gone trough:
True
HuK
22 Players. 11*21 Bo5s
Website with standings, brackets and upcoming matches. Allmost finished.
http://live.taketv.net/lotus
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So there's one bo5 per day from now on?
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11x bo5's per week. For 21 weeks. according to schedule. If they manage to keep the schedule but it seems like a lot of work to organize everything
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This is exactly the tournament format LotV needs right now! Gets player to actually play a lot, spectators to be able to watch a lot and Blizzard to hopefully learn a lot 
Awesome event as ALWAYS taketv♥
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Oh sick, PartinG's in this
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On May 12 2015 06:00 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
11x bo5's per week. For 21 weeks. according to schedule. If they manage to keep the schedule but it seems like a lot of work to organize everything
Its 3 weeks with 11 bo5 each and 9 weeks with 22 bo5 each. First week is 11 bo5.
Woche 1 Lambo vs Harstem
Woche 1 Semper vs BeastyQT
Woche 1 iaguz vs MaNa
Woche 1 KiWiKaKi vs HeRoMaRiNe
Woche 1 Patience vs DIMAGA
Woche 1 Nerchio vs CranK
Woche 1 QXC vs MMA
Woche 1 Stephano vs PartinG
Woche 1 Bly vs DemusliM
Woche 1 GoOdy vs TruE
Woche 1 HuK vs TargA
Woche 1 = Week 1
Some of them are already scheduled.
Friday 7PM - Semper vs BeastyQT
Saturday 2PM - CranK vs Nerchio
Saturday 4PM - DemusliM vs Bly
Saturday 6PM - QXC vs MMA
Sunday 8PM - MaNa vs iaguz
Some of them are still pending, I am doing my best to schedule. It might be the case that not everything will always be LIVE but sometimes casted from replays which is unavoidable when you have 231 bo5. I still hope we do a good job and show most stuff live 
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