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[Patch 6.13] Tastes Like Purple General Discussion - Page 4

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M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4186 Posts
June 30 2016 16:13 GMT
#61
I saw Thalia banned in LCS, does that mean that she sees pro play? I am not following the scene too closely
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
June 30 2016 16:32 GMT
#62
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St3MoR
Profile Joined November 2002
Spain3256 Posts
June 30 2016 16:51 GMT
#63
On July 01 2016 00:26 kongoline wrote:
when rerolling 3 skin shards to get random skin is it only for champions i already own or for every champ in game ?


iirc it's for champs you can use, so owned + free that week
Prophet in TL of the Makoto0124 ways
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-30 17:43:34
June 30 2016 17:43 GMT
#64
On July 01 2016 01:10 iCanada wrote:
VA is there a story behind that? Lol.


VA ascended the salt throne and got killed from TL
but what is dead may never die
but rises again
harder and stronger
aka Teutonica
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
June 30 2016 17:48 GMT
#65
On June 30 2016 16:27 Amui wrote:
Testing math brb.

Math is different depending on when it determines the pool, either on game start or on kill with discards of invalid options if the problem arises.

Given that we want the probability of 3 air dragon's in a row.
For just the 3 dragon case, it's 1/36 (3.7%) vs. 1/64(1.56%), which should be pretty self-explanatory. In the 4 dragon case, it's 4/105 (3.81%) valid spawn configurations vs. 6/252 (2.38%)

5 dragon case is 12/210 (4.14%) and 27/964 (2.80)%

Given enough of a sample size, it could be figured out.

EDIT: forgot the 4/3 for initial chance to spawn on fixed pool, should be final math now.


On June 30 2016 17:12 Scip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2016 15:41 cLutZ wrote:
The math is hard because its conditional probability. It can go Cloud>Cloud>Fire>Fire and the chance for the next one being cloud is 1/4

how do you know it works this way, source?
it could be this
it's 1/3 the next one is air, 1/3 the next one is fire, 1/6 the next one is water and 1/6 the next one is earth.


No one knows which model is correct. This is why I assumed the 2nd model Amui mathed out.
Freeeeeeedom
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
June 30 2016 17:52 GMT
#66
whats all this based on? What's the algorithm for drake spawn probability?

I'm seeing a lot of math thrown around but no idea what the premise is
aka Teutonica
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
June 30 2016 18:30 GMT
#67
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-30 18:34:24
June 30 2016 18:33 GMT
#68
Well you can say that about anything, JimmiC
burn them all

why we care about anything outside the solar system mate we can't even go there see that shit ever LOL
aka Teutonica
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
June 30 2016 18:45 GMT
#69
Someone asked what the chances of getting 3 cloud drakes in a game is, because apparently that is the threshold for that buff being useful.
Freeeeeeedom
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
June 30 2016 18:53 GMT
#70
no its so you can curse your cruel existence with mathematically accurate complaints about the unlikelihood of said event
aka Teutonica
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
June 30 2016 19:31 GMT
#71
On July 01 2016 03:45 cLutZ wrote:
Someone asked what the chances of getting 3 cloud drakes in a game is, because apparently that is the threshold for that buff being useful.


Amuis math is wrong. I did the hard count. You can check if you want it's on the prior page
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
June 30 2016 19:52 GMT
#72
On July 01 2016 00:26 kongoline wrote:
when rerolling 3 skin shards to get random skin is it only for champions i already own or for every champ in game ?

A champion you don't already have. If you have all the champions it gives you one randomly as punishment for being stupid and not waiting for the next one to come out.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-30 20:04:05
June 30 2016 20:00 GMT
#73
On July 01 2016 04:31 Goumindong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2016 03:45 cLutZ wrote:
Someone asked what the chances of getting 3 cloud drakes in a game is, because apparently that is the threshold for that buff being useful.


Amuis math is wrong. I did the hard count. You can check if you want it's on the prior page

What numbers are you getting? I did my numbers by counting valid configurations(nothing with 4 or more of any type). As far as I can tell I didn't do anything wrong, unless you're wanting just 3 air dragons, not 3 in a row, which is different.

eg. with 4 drakes taken, fixed pool would have 81(3^4) 4/3 (sometimes you won't get air dragon in the pool), and -3 invalid configurations for 105 total possibilities.Out of these, you have 4 configs where you'd have 3 air dragons in a row.

AAA D2, AAA D3, D2 AAA, and D3 AAA, giving you 3.81%.

Just getting 3 air dragons in 4 kills would double that, to 7.62%, which is actually pretty sizable. Means that in over 30% of your games, you'd be getting 3 of a drake in the first 4 spawns with the first model.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-30 20:06:51
June 30 2016 20:06 GMT
#74
On July 01 2016 04:31 Goumindong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2016 03:45 cLutZ wrote:
Someone asked what the chances of getting 3 cloud drakes in a game is, because apparently that is the threshold for that buff being useful.


Amuis math is wrong. I did the hard count. You can check if you want it's on the prior page


Here is the table for just the first 3 drakes. You will see there are 64 possible combinations, only one of which is CCC

+ Show Spoiler +
https://imgur.com/a/t4PUh
Freeeeeeedom
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-30 21:30:18
June 30 2016 21:28 GMT
#75
nvm fixed
Carrilord has arrived.
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
June 30 2016 22:52 GMT
#76
On July 01 2016 05:00 Amui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2016 04:31 Goumindong wrote:
On July 01 2016 03:45 cLutZ wrote:
Someone asked what the chances of getting 3 cloud drakes in a game is, because apparently that is the threshold for that buff being useful.


Amuis math is wrong. I did the hard count. You can check if you want it's on the prior page

What numbers are you getting? I did my numbers by counting valid configurations(nothing with 4 or more of any type). As far as I can tell I didn't do anything wrong, unless you're wanting just 3 air dragons, not 3 in a row, which is different.

eg. with 4 drakes taken, fixed pool would have 81(3^4) 4/3 (sometimes you won't get air dragon in the pool), and -3 invalid configurations for 105 total possibilities.Out of these, you have 4 configs where you'd have 3 air dragons in a row.

AAA D2, AAA D3, D2 AAA, and D3 AAA, giving you 3.81%.

Just getting 3 air dragons in 4 kills would double that, to 7.62%, which is actually pretty sizable. Means that in over 30% of your games, you'd be getting 3 of a drake in the first 4 spawns with the first model.


I thought you were looking at any order. My hard count came to 90/690 for 3 in 5. It's on the last page
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
July 01 2016 00:29 GMT
#77
So uhhh, Ardent Censor... scales multiplicatively. 1500 HP Mantra E's
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
July 01 2016 02:37 GMT
#78
I think I'm done playing League. Last couple months I think "You know, I feel like playing League." and then after a game or two I just have no desire to play more.
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
July 01 2016 09:43 GMT
#79
I get that feeling too soemtimes, then I go play EU4 and Crusader Kings II, but at some point I feel like waving my mouse a bit more and end up back at League.

whats all this based on? What's the algorithm for drake spawn probability?

I'm seeing a lot of math thrown around but no idea what the premise is


No one knows the algorithm, everyone is doing calculations assuming it's a random combination and that drakes spawning do not affect the next spawn likelihoods. It's a bti confusing though because there are 4 dragons, but only 3 are allowed to spawn. Maybe once I'm back at a table I'll actually go through the question properly, I know the way I did it was gimmicky and ignored some stuff.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-01 12:07:09
July 01 2016 12:06 GMT
#80
*wrong page
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