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On November 15 2015 03:04 Ansibled wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2015 03:01 Redox wrote:On November 15 2015 02:53 Ansibled wrote:On November 15 2015 02:33 Redox wrote:On November 15 2015 02:23 nafta wrote:
I am gonna be very sad if we lose another player because of elo boosting. Who gives a shit..... I do not think they are any better than scripters, actually worse. Oh no the competitive integrity of the ladder is ruined what a heinous crime. I really don't see how elo boosting can ever be considered worse than scripting. Riot cares because a large part of their player base cares. I really don't see how scripting can ever be considered worse than Elo boosting since it impacts the result of a game less on average. One of the games is fair, but the other person is better than you and you lost. One of the games somebody is literally cheating.
How is it fair if the player gets into the game under false pretenses? MMR is absolutely essential to a game like League. It can not exist without it. Which is why there is MMR even in unranked games.
Honestly I think I should be put in some teams with you. I would even try my best. Then you can decide how fairly you lost. :D
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On November 15 2015 02:56 Caiada wrote:
If your average LL player had their way, nobody'd be banned for anything but intentionally feeding in their games.
Wow that would be so terrible can you imagine that.
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On November 15 2015 03:09 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2015 03:04 Ansibled wrote:On November 15 2015 03:01 Redox wrote:On November 15 2015 02:53 Ansibled wrote:On November 15 2015 02:33 Redox wrote:On November 15 2015 02:23 nafta wrote:
I am gonna be very sad if we lose another player because of elo boosting. Who gives a shit..... I do not think they are any better than scripters, actually worse. Oh no the competitive integrity of the ladder is ruined what a heinous crime. I really don't see how elo boosting can ever be considered worse than scripting. Riot cares because a large part of their player base cares. I really don't see how scripting can ever be considered worse than Elo boosting since it impacts the result of a game less on average. One of the games is fair, but the other person is better than you and you lost. One of the games somebody is literally cheating. How is it fair if the player gets into the game under false pretenses? MMR is absolutely essential to a game like League. It can not exist without it. Which is why there is MMR even in unranked games. Honestly I think I should be put in some teams with you. I would even try my best. Then you can decide how fairly you lost. :D
Different mentalities I guess. Just don't see it like that. Doesn't help how it takes super long for riot to take action against stuff like scripters and how only "big names" get banned or w/e.
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
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On November 15 2015 03:13 AlterKot wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2015 02:56 Caiada wrote:
If your average LL player had their way, nobody'd be banned for anything but intentionally feeding in their games. Wow that would be so terrible can you imagine that.
Yeah, the problem with joking about that is some dreadful e-tough guys think that's literally what Riot should do, no satire.
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Godspeed vardags you glorious shitter
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Worrying trend for my signature.
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I for one cant wait for CLG Vardags.
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MaTRiX[SiN]
Sweden1282 Posts
On November 15 2015 03:09 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2015 03:04 Ansibled wrote:On November 15 2015 03:01 Redox wrote:On November 15 2015 02:53 Ansibled wrote:On November 15 2015 02:33 Redox wrote:On November 15 2015 02:23 nafta wrote:
I am gonna be very sad if we lose another player because of elo boosting. Who gives a shit..... I do not think they are any better than scripters, actually worse. Oh no the competitive integrity of the ladder is ruined what a heinous crime. I really don't see how elo boosting can ever be considered worse than scripting. Riot cares because a large part of their player base cares. I really don't see how scripting can ever be considered worse than Elo boosting since it impacts the result of a game less on average. One of the games is fair, but the other person is better than you and you lost. One of the games somebody is literally cheating. How is it fair if the player gets into the game under false pretenses? MMR is absolutely essential to a game like League. It can not exist without it. Which is why there is MMR even in unranked games. Honestly I think I should be put in some teams with you. I would even try my best. Then you can decide how fairly you lost. :D
If this is the reason elo boosting is considered wrong then why is smurfing ok? During the time the account is being boosted It's literally the same situation. Do you think the game is only fair if all players are at their true mmr? If so isnt the game equally unfair when a one trick pony doesnt get his role/champion and is suddenly a much worse player.
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On November 15 2015 05:54 MaTRiX[SiN] wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2015 03:09 Redox wrote:On November 15 2015 03:04 Ansibled wrote:On November 15 2015 03:01 Redox wrote:On November 15 2015 02:53 Ansibled wrote:On November 15 2015 02:33 Redox wrote:On November 15 2015 02:23 nafta wrote:
I am gonna be very sad if we lose another player because of elo boosting. Who gives a shit..... I do not think they are any better than scripters, actually worse. Oh no the competitive integrity of the ladder is ruined what a heinous crime. I really don't see how elo boosting can ever be considered worse than scripting. Riot cares because a large part of their player base cares. I really don't see how scripting can ever be considered worse than Elo boosting since it impacts the result of a game less on average. One of the games is fair, but the other person is better than you and you lost. One of the games somebody is literally cheating. How is it fair if the player gets into the game under false pretenses? MMR is absolutely essential to a game like League. It can not exist without it. Which is why there is MMR even in unranked games. Honestly I think I should be put in some teams with you. I would even try my best. Then you can decide how fairly you lost. :D If this is the reason elo boosting is considered wrong then why is smurfing ok? During the time the account is being boosted It's literally the same situation. Do you think the game is only fair if all players are at their true mmr? If so isnt the game equally unfair when a one trick pony doesnt get his role/champion and is suddenly a much worse player.
Off-topic, but I don't think "Pro scene rumor mill 2016 Pre-Season" is the best thread to discuss this.
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United States37500 Posts
It isn't. If you really want to discuss the demerits of elo boosting, use GD if you must.
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
Goldenglue, porpoise and nien have declared free agency. So immortals are starting from scratch; makes sense I guess.
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I really wish Goldenglue was given a shot where he isn't just thrown into a team mid split. I really like his play-making process and his intuition whenever I've seen him stream and think he can be an average LCS mid laner if given a stable team.
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
You're speaking about guy who was most expensive signing in Dignitas history and got benched by scarra less than half split later, because he did almost nothing scarra or anyone else couldn't do, plus making team cohesion worse.
And then he never was anywhere close to have impact Slooshi had in T8's games.
Immortals are aiming for top-3, of course they're dropping him.
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As long as Nien's gone, they're off to a great start.
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On November 16 2015 04:05 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
You're speaking about guy who was most expensive signing in Dignitas history and got benched by scarra less than half split later, because he did almost nothing scarra or anyone else couldn't do, plus making team cohesion worse.
And then he never was anywhere close to have impact Slooshi had in T8's games.
Immortals are aiming for top-3, of course they're dropping him.
Who are they getting though. Players are signing contracts and Immortals still don't have a roster.
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On November 16 2015 05:16 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2015 04:05 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
You're speaking about guy who was most expensive signing in Dignitas history and got benched by scarra less than half split later, because he did almost nothing scarra or anyone else couldn't do, plus making team cohesion worse.
And then he never was anywhere close to have impact Slooshi had in T8's games.
Immortals are aiming for top-3, of course they're dropping him. Who are they getting though. Players are signing contracts and Immortals still don't have a roster.
Besides TSM, which NA LCS team have already sign player(s)? So far I feel like tons of players are becoming free agents not nothing is signed yet.
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On November 16 2015 05:22 NpG)Explosive wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2015 05:16 Numy wrote:On November 16 2015 04:05 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
You're speaking about guy who was most expensive signing in Dignitas history and got benched by scarra less than half split later, because he did almost nothing scarra or anyone else couldn't do, plus making team cohesion worse.
And then he never was anywhere close to have impact Slooshi had in T8's games.
Immortals are aiming for top-3, of course they're dropping him. Who are they getting though. Players are signing contracts and Immortals still don't have a roster. Besides TSM, which NA LCS team have already sign player(s)? So far I feel like tons of players are becoming free agents not nothing is signed yet.
I mean the good players. Frogiven/Freeze are both in talks already with Freeze linked to RNG. TSM grabbed the only good top outside of TL. That leaves what Adrian/Rush/Altec?
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On November 16 2015 05:27 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2015 05:22 NpG)Explosive wrote:On November 16 2015 05:16 Numy wrote:On November 16 2015 04:05 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
You're speaking about guy who was most expensive signing in Dignitas history and got benched by scarra less than half split later, because he did almost nothing scarra or anyone else couldn't do, plus making team cohesion worse.
And then he never was anywhere close to have impact Slooshi had in T8's games.
Immortals are aiming for top-3, of course they're dropping him. Who are they getting though. Players are signing contracts and Immortals still don't have a roster. Besides TSM, which NA LCS team have already sign player(s)? So far I feel like tons of players are becoming free agents not nothing is signed yet. I mean the good players. Frogiven/Freeze are both in talks already with Freeze linked to RNG. TSM grabbed the only good top outside of TL. That leaves what Adrian/Rush/Altec?
+ Pobelter/GBM/Impact/Bunny/maybe Quas. 'Twitter ppl' are saying that they have top 3 line up (only TSM/CST better), so wouldn't be worry.
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On November 16 2015 05:32 orzeu wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2015 05:27 Numy wrote:On November 16 2015 05:22 NpG)Explosive wrote:On November 16 2015 05:16 Numy wrote:On November 16 2015 04:05 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
You're speaking about guy who was most expensive signing in Dignitas history and got benched by scarra less than half split later, because he did almost nothing scarra or anyone else couldn't do, plus making team cohesion worse.
And then he never was anywhere close to have impact Slooshi had in T8's games.
Immortals are aiming for top-3, of course they're dropping him. Who are they getting though. Players are signing contracts and Immortals still don't have a roster. Besides TSM, which NA LCS team have already sign player(s)? So far I feel like tons of players are becoming free agents not nothing is signed yet. I mean the good players. Frogiven/Freeze are both in talks already with Freeze linked to RNG. TSM grabbed the only good top outside of TL. That leaves what Adrian/Rush/Altec? + Pobelter/GBM/Impact/Bunny/maybe Quas. 'Twitter ppl' are saying that they have top 3 line up (only TSM/CST better), so wouldn't be worry.
Ok cool, hope they announce it soon. I'm really hyped to see what they come up with and how the team can grow. Been getting worried that they aren't signing any of the good NA players so even if they get really good ints then the NA will just drag them down.
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