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AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
February 09 2015 18:17 GMT
#41
On February 10 2015 03:03 BrownBear wrote:
RLewis really nailed this one. It irritates me that he's really the only guy doing actual journalism in the scene, because he's about as unprofessional as a journalist can be while still calling themselves a journalist, but the man gets results.

Also rumors that H2K and MYM might swap midlaners? https://www.facebook.com/H2kGaming.EU?fref=ts

As mentioned in the esportsheaven article I linked earlier, this was what Kori wanted all along.
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Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
February 09 2015 19:06 GMT
#42
Well who would join MYM volunteerly now?
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Majax
Profile Joined December 2014
France816 Posts
February 10 2015 10:43 GMT
#43
Maybe the team won't be MYM's for long ?
I certainly hope so, despite the fact that it would make difficult for Riot to force them to pay what they owe to the players.
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Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-10 17:39:48
February 10 2015 17:16 GMT
#44
They actually tweeted big sorry...






+ Show Spoiler +
First off, we’d like to thank Richard Lewis and the Daily Dot for exposing a weakness in our management structure. Sometimes, we trust in the wrong people and we’re guilty of doing that more that we’d like.

Please know that the actions of the few involved do not represent the passionate hard-working team we have at MeetYourMakers. Upon hearing the news, we've spent time collecting the facts to investigate internally.

We wanted to share this, our immediate actions and follow up, with the entire community. This is to everyone that’s experienced the same emotional rollercoaster we have the last few days.

THE FACTS :

1. Sebastian ‘Falli’ Rotterdam, MYM’s General Manager did have a threatening conversation with Marcin ‘Kori’ Wolski upon discovering Kori’s desire to leave the team house prior to the start of the LCS.
2. Also present in the room was MYM’s e-sports manager, Damir ‘NestlieK’ Dedic
3. No other people were physically in the room when the recorded conversation occurred
4. This incident was not reported to the CEO, Khaled Naim.

IMMEDIATE ACTIONS :

1. Seabstian Falli Rotterdam. Falli has been immediately released from MYM.
2. Kori. We’re part of an open dialogue with Kori, ourselves and RIOT. We’ll always try to do what’s best for our players. Once a decision that Kori is happy with has been decided, we will let everyone know (or Daily Dot will!)
3. RIOT. RIOT are now deliberating over the unfolded events and will release their own formal statement soon
4. Damir. We’ve decided to retain Damir, our esports Manager. We want to see punishment served for the offenders not harm the victims. Upon discussions with the players, it became clear that Damir is not being blamed for what transpired. Like Kori, he felt threatened and pressured by a higher-up in the company who had later told him his job was at risk if Kori left the team.

FOLLOW UP :

1. We will host 1 on 1 sessions with our players and a neutral third party. The objective will be to understand any areas of improvement and identify any issues like this proactively.
2. We’ve always trusted our managers to do what’s best for the players and exercise discretion in their decision making. In this instance, our trust has been abused. Going forward, we will host regular bi-monthly chats with all players + management to keep updated on any ongoing concerns. Management will also need to ask for approval from the CEO for any decisions involving player changes so that ultimate responsibility lies with CEO Khaled.
3. We will wait for an official RIOT statement and accept that we will need to ensure going forward something of this magnitude never happens again
4. 4. Our staff are part of the community we all call home. We rely on our conversations with all of you. Journalists, redditors, players, managers. Please if you ever hear of something as fundamentally shocking as what has happened, drop us just a one line.

We didn’t want this to sound like a rehearsed PR statement.

As the CEO of MYM, I can only say that I truly apologize for my own choice of words in my communication. I would also like to extend a sincere apology to Richard Lewis and his team at Daily Dot- in the future we want to be part of the solution not cause issues for those doing great work for the community.

We owe a massive debt of gratitude to everyone who spend even a moment watching MYM including our hard working staff. To confirm, we are already working with Kori to figure out what he wants to do next.

Kori will soon make his own announcement which we feel shouldn’t come from us, as this has affected him so personally. We’ll support any statement he makes and stand-by him no matter what. He’s a big part of MYM and he’ll be treated as such.

TL:DR :

- General Manager Sebastian Falli’ Rotterdam fired
- Esports Manager Damir stays on- players agreed
- Kori to decide what his next steps are
- CEO Khaled to have 1-to-1’s with players + staff alongside a netural third party to identify any existing issues
- MYM wants to thank the community for their ongoing support and concern
- MYM wants to thank Richard Lewis and the Daily Dot for making us aware of these issues. We want to acknowledge Richard’s and esport journalist’s role as essential for teams like us

Thank you all,
Khaled Naim & the entire MYM


EDIT: They deleted the big sorry tweet.

https://twitter.com/myMYMcom/status/565197033594970112


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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
February 10 2015 17:20 GMT
#45
You know what's the funniest thing?

2. Also present in the room was MYM’s e-sports manager, Damir ‘NestlieK’ Dedic

This NestliK guy. Who was a 'coach' for DotA2 ex-mouz and ex-MYM team with Ace, unicornxoxo, Cr1t etc. etc. when I was still part of it. Dude that has no freaking idea about managing a team and is well known racist (http://www.gosugamers.net/forums/topic/1029249-elpride-lions-pride-racist-flame/) and still a kid, this should explain what kind of people are in MYM organisation.
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St3MoR
Profile Joined November 2002
Spain3256 Posts
February 10 2015 17:34 GMT
#46
as far as I am concerned the damage is already done, it will take a lot of time to repair their image...
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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-10 17:55:30
February 10 2015 17:36 GMT
#47
MYM's countless previous fuck ups still didn't kill them. At this point the only way for them to be truly driven out is for them to actually move someone's mother.

Riot pls wave your heavy handed non-toxic punishments and just kill MYM, you'll be doing everyone a favour.


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AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
February 10 2015 17:58 GMT
#48
Well I'm not emotionally invested all that much so I mostly wonder what will happen to the rosters now.
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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
February 10 2015 18:41 GMT
#49
On February 11 2015 02:36 Fusilero wrote:
MYM's countless previous fuck ups still didn't kill them. At this point the only way for them to be truly driven out is for them to actually move someone's mother.

Riot pls wave your heavy handed non-toxic punishments and just kill MYM, you'll be doing everyone a favour.

Yeah I also hope Riot kicks out MYM. I am just not sure if they are able to do so.
It also might set an unwelcome precident and some will say Riot should not that much power, be accuser and judge at the same time etc.
Off-season = best season
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
February 10 2015 18:54 GMT
#50
On February 11 2015 03:41 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2015 02:36 Fusilero wrote:
MYM's countless previous fuck ups still didn't kill them. At this point the only way for them to be truly driven out is for them to actually move someone's mother.

Riot pls wave your heavy handed non-toxic punishments and just kill MYM, you'll be doing everyone a favour.

Yeah I also hope Riot kicks out MYM. I am just not sure if they are able to do so.
It also might set an unwelcome precident and some will say Riot should not that much power, be accuser and judge at the same time etc.


>> Changes in Ownership may only occur between Splits, meaning after the most
recent Playoffs and Promotion Matches but before the start of the following Split.

It's just by quoting rule 3.1 from LCS Rule Set.
So I don't think it's possible in current state, at least if Riot don't want to force precedent.

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LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
February 10 2015 18:55 GMT
#51
On February 11 2015 02:36 Fusilero wrote:
MYM's countless previous fuck ups still didn't kill them. At this point the only way for them to be truly driven out is for them to actually move someone's mother.

Riot pls wave your heavy handed non-toxic punishments and just kill MYM, you'll be doing everyone a favour.

https://twitter.com/RLewisReports/status/565206508225298432
Lomo




they can have zero fans and still get Riot money, only Riot can kill them.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
February 10 2015 18:57 GMT
#52
The MYM statement is complete bs. Already that it starts with thanking RL says it all. It should start with apologizing to Kori. In fact the whole text does not contain a direct apology to Kori, but one to RL. What? Shows so much that they are not sorry for their behaviour but sorry to be caught.

I also want to point out that it was Kori who collected all the evidence. He then chose to publish this evidence via Dailydot and esportsexpress. I dont see how those are the big heros now, they barely did anything.

And then MYM only did the bare minimum with firing Falli. He was gone anyway. They really could not have done less, which again shows how insincere the whole thing is. Not that this is surprising with the type of people assembled at MYM. It is one lot with one similar mindset that simply needs to go. That they hired YamatoCannon as coach also fits right in there.
Off-season = best season
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 10 2015 23:10 GMT
#53
On February 11 2015 03:54 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2015 03:41 Redox wrote:
On February 11 2015 02:36 Fusilero wrote:
MYM's countless previous fuck ups still didn't kill them. At this point the only way for them to be truly driven out is for them to actually move someone's mother.

Riot pls wave your heavy handed non-toxic punishments and just kill MYM, you'll be doing everyone a favour.

Yeah I also hope Riot kicks out MYM. I am just not sure if they are able to do so.
It also might set an unwelcome precident and some will say Riot should not that much power, be accuser and judge at the same time etc.


>> Changes in Ownership may only occur between Splits, meaning after the most
recent Playoffs and Promotion Matches but before the start of the following Split.

It's just by quoting rule 3.1 from LCS Rule Set.
So I don't think it's possible in current state, at least if Riot don't want to force precedent.


They could fine them so much it's financially infeasible for mym to continue playing in lcs.
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Nickroseville
Profile Joined January 2015
United States2 Posts
February 10 2015 23:40 GMT
#54
riot should say big sorry to move your mothers and revoke their LCS license
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-11 08:35:03
February 11 2015 08:33 GMT
#55
On February 11 2015 08:10 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2015 03:54 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On February 11 2015 03:41 Redox wrote:
On February 11 2015 02:36 Fusilero wrote:
MYM's countless previous fuck ups still didn't kill them. At this point the only way for them to be truly driven out is for them to actually move someone's mother.

Riot pls wave your heavy handed non-toxic punishments and just kill MYM, you'll be doing everyone a favour.

Yeah I also hope Riot kicks out MYM. I am just not sure if they are able to do so.
It also might set an unwelcome precident and some will say Riot should not that much power, be accuser and judge at the same time etc.


>> Changes in Ownership may only occur between Splits, meaning after the most
recent Playoffs and Promotion Matches but before the start of the following Split.

It's just by quoting rule 3.1 from LCS Rule Set.
So I don't think it's possible in current state, at least if Riot don't want to force precedent.


They could fine them so much it's financially infeasible for mym to continue playing in lcs.


And again, it's called as "setting up unfavourable precedent".

We don't have respectable orgs in general in EU league right now outside of Fnatic/SK, other are basically nonames or MYM level orgs.
Alex Garfield can't have his brands in LCS, NiP don't want to League anymore after all those collapses, mTw is dead in the waters, CIS orgs don't want to LCS as well, neither does Acer and Team Liquid is in NA.

Unless Riot are going to continue this trend and basically force people to create specific organisations for LCS, we're going to have it here.
It's not like they have license either, people forget that team owns spot in LCS, not players, so if you drop the team, players are going to get dropped as well, unless they change rules drastically.
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Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
February 11 2015 15:24 GMT
#56
The problem with simply removing MYM from the LCS is that you're then in turn hurting the players, as well as the organization. You really can't separate hurting the organization from hurting the players. Any fines or restrictions are going to impact the players I'm sure. MYM having trouble paying its players? I doubt fining them will help with that. Unless Riot wants to remove MYM's sponsorship of the team, and pay for the team's expenses with the money they used to fund MYM, there's no way that the players will benefit from Riot action against MYM. If they do give the money to the players directly, there's no real promise that their next manager won't be as corrupt as their last manager. This is a problem when you mix naive young adults with experienced con artists/thugs.
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Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-12 09:02:42
February 12 2015 08:12 GMT
#57
http://na.lolesports.com/articles/investigation-marcin-“kori”-wolski-and-meetyourmakers

+ Show Spoiler +
Immediately prior to the start of the 2015 LCS season, we were informed that Marcin “Kori” Wolski had decided to leave MeetYourMakers (MYM). LCS officials accepted it was an emergency situation and the team was allowed to use a substitute for the upcoming games in Wolski’s absence. Subsequent facts have come to light which exhibit significant mismanagement and unprofessional behavior from a senior member of MYM’s management team. In this kind of complex case, full investigation of the facts takes time to complete, but after review we wanted to give insight into our internal investigation and next steps.

Although teams and players are ultimately responsible for navigating their own contractual relationships, we will do everything in our power to discourage and work against unacceptable environments involving our teams and players. We have zero tolerance for intimidation of players within an LCS organization.

On January 23, 2015 Wolski reached out to LCS officials stating that he had been threatened by MYM management. He also informed LCS officials that he had a recording of the conversation. We took this matter very seriously and continued our open investigation into the mistreatment of the player, although given legal concerns regarding the recording which was obtained without all parties’ knowledge, we did not request or use it to inform our ongoing investigation. The severity of the situation has since emerged through the recording being made public by Wolski, showing that he and his immediate family were threatened with legal action by MYM manager Sebastian Rotterdam.

Our investigation found fault on behalf of both player and management. Despite Wolski’s claims that payments had been withheld, we found the only missing payments stemmed from the Supa Hot Crew (SHC) organisation, of which Wolski was a player in the 2014 season. As we understand it, the failure to receive payments from SHC arose due to Wolski's own failure to provide requested tax documentation, and this problem can be resolved once Wolski produces these documents. As a separate organization, MYM has provided us with documentation verifying that they have not withheld any payment from its players. As such, it appeared that by leaving the team ahead of the beginning of the spring split Wolski was breaking an active contract and commitment to MYM.

It is not our intention to create a precedent that discourages teams from discussing legal issues or informing players of their liabilities should they seek to disavow an existing contract, as in Wolski’s case. In fact, teams and players should have these conversations and negotiations independently and with full context and knowledge of the legal commitments and restrictions. What we also believe, however, is that teams have a moral commitment to treat players - who are often inexperienced and vulnerable - with dignity and respect. Rotterdam’s actions in conversation with Wolski when addressing this contract break were both unprofessional and unjustifiable.

As confirmed by the team earlier today, MYM, of its own accord, has taken action against Rotterdam and fired him from his position as team manager. Rotterdam will also be indefinitely suspended by Riot from competing within the LCS as a manager or any other team position.

An entire LCS organization shoulders the responsibility for the behavior of their team members and ensuring their players have a safe and professional environment. MYM will be held accountable for Rotterdam’s actions towards Wolski and for failing to protect their team members from his unacceptable and bullying behavior. As such, Riot will be issuing MYM with a fine of €5,000 for unprofessional behaviour.

We know this fine may not satisfy those hoping for a harsher punishment for MYM, but there’s some important context as to how we reached this amount. In deciding the severity of the fine we took several factors into account. Primarily, we considered the fact that Rotterdam’s actions - and MYM’s failure to protect players from them - created an unprofessional work environment for the team. We also took into account the fact that MYM acted decisively to remove Rotterdam from the organization once the full facts of his behavior had come to light. Lastly, although it in no way justifies threats or intimidation, we also considered when deciding on a punishment the fact that Wolski appeared to break a commitment to a team, which put not only his career but those of his teammates in jeopardy.

We’re aware that questions have been raised as to whether MYM should be stripped of their LCS slot. After concluding our investigation, we feel that MYM has taken significant steps to remove toxic influence from within their organization and is prepared to move forward in the best interests of their players and their competitive careers. We believe that forfeiting the slot would unnecessarily penalize players and interrupt their pro careers through no fault of their own. Even though MYM has acted swiftly to correct this issue, any further violations can and will put them on a path to suspension from the LCS.

We appreciate the strength of community sentiment against any influence that would threaten or otherwise challenge the safety and security of pro teams and players. For Riot, cases like this tread a difficult balance between relying on the contractual relationships negotiated between teams and players to appropriately guide their behavior, and using our influence to try and ensure a professional, and ethical environment for those parties operating within the LCS ecosystem. Where we feel strongly that unprofessionalism is putting player security at risk, we can and will use our influence to try to ensure that the LCS pro experience is a positive one.
RELEVANT RULES

10.2.10 Moral Turpitude

A Team Member may not engage in any activity which is deemed by the LCS to be immoral, disgraceful, or contrary to conventional standards of proper ethical behavior.
RULING

MYM has violated rule 10.2.10 of the LCS ruleset and will be subject to penalties.
COMPETITION PENALTIES

MYM is:

Fined €5000

Sebastian Rotterdam is:

Banned indefinitely from competing within the LCS as a manager or any other team position


They seem to be ignoring all of the previous reporting that implicated the CEO in the situation. It doesn't look like this is going to be the end of this.

CLG is regretting poaching Scarra now, should have just threatened Dig instead.
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
February 12 2015 08:16 GMT
#58
5.000 euros and Rotterdam banned, rofl, what a joke.
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Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9411 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-12 09:17:43
February 12 2015 09:00 GMT
#59
On February 12 2015 17:12 Ansibled wrote:
http://na.lolesports.com/articles/investigation-marcin-“kori”-wolski-and-meetyourmakers

+ Show Spoiler +
Immediately prior to the start of the 2015 LCS season, we were informed that Marcin “Kori” Wolski had decided to leave MeetYourMakers (MYM). LCS officials accepted it was an emergency situation and the team was allowed to use a substitute for the upcoming games in Wolski’s absence. Subsequent facts have come to light which exhibit significant mismanagement and unprofessional behavior from a senior member of MYM’s management team. In this kind of complex case, full investigation of the facts takes time to complete, but after review we wanted to give insight into our internal investigation and next steps.

Although teams and players are ultimately responsible for navigating their own contractual relationships, we will do everything in our power to discourage and work against unacceptable environments involving our teams and players. We have zero tolerance for intimidation of players within an LCS organization.

On January 23, 2015 Wolski reached out to LCS officials stating that he had been threatened by MYM management. He also informed LCS officials that he had a recording of the conversation. We took this matter very seriously and continued our open investigation into the mistreatment of the player, although given legal concerns regarding the recording which was obtained without all parties’ knowledge, we did not request or use it to inform our ongoing investigation. The severity of the situation has since emerged through the recording being made public by Wolski, showing that he and his immediate family were threatened with legal action by MYM manager Sebastian Rotterdam.

Our investigation found fault on behalf of both player and management. Despite Wolski’s claims that payments had been withheld, we found the only missing payments stemmed from the Supa Hot Crew (SHC) organisation, of which Wolski was a player in the 2014 season. As we understand it, the failure to receive payments from SHC arose due to Wolski's own failure to provide requested tax documentation, and this problem can be resolved once Wolski produces these documents. As a separate organization, MYM has provided us with documentation verifying that they have not withheld any payment from its players. As such, it appeared that by leaving the team ahead of the beginning of the spring split Wolski was breaking an active contract and commitment to MYM.

It is not our intention to create a precedent that discourages teams from discussing legal issues or informing players of their liabilities should they seek to disavow an existing contract, as in Wolski’s case. In fact, teams and players should have these conversations and negotiations independently and with full context and knowledge of the legal commitments and restrictions. What we also believe, however, is that teams have a moral commitment to treat players - who are often inexperienced and vulnerable - with dignity and respect. Rotterdam’s actions in conversation with Wolski when addressing this contract break were both unprofessional and unjustifiable.

As confirmed by the team earlier today, MYM, of its own accord, has taken action against Rotterdam and fired him from his position as team manager. Rotterdam will also be indefinitely suspended by Riot from competing within the LCS as a manager or any other team position.

An entire LCS organization shoulders the responsibility for the behavior of their team members and ensuring their players have a safe and professional environment. MYM will be held accountable for Rotterdam’s actions towards Wolski and for failing to protect their team members from his unacceptable and bullying behavior. As such, Riot will be issuing MYM with a fine of €5,000 for unprofessional behaviour.

We know this fine may not satisfy those hoping for a harsher punishment for MYM, but there’s some important context as to how we reached this amount. In deciding the severity of the fine we took several factors into account. Primarily, we considered the fact that Rotterdam’s actions - and MYM’s failure to protect players from them - created an unprofessional work environment for the team. We also took into account the fact that MYM acted decisively to remove Rotterdam from the organization once the full facts of his behavior had come to light. Lastly, although it in no way justifies threats or intimidation, we also considered when deciding on a punishment the fact that Wolski appeared to break a commitment to a team, which put not only his career but those of his teammates in jeopardy.

We’re aware that questions have been raised as to whether MYM should be stripped of their LCS slot. After concluding our investigation, we feel that MYM has taken significant steps to remove toxic influence from within their organization and is prepared to move forward in the best interests of their players and their competitive careers. We believe that forfeiting the slot would unnecessarily penalize players and interrupt their pro careers through no fault of their own. Even though MYM has acted swiftly to correct this issue, any further violations can and will put them on a path to suspension from the LCS.

We appreciate the strength of community sentiment against any influence that would threaten or otherwise challenge the safety and security of pro teams and players. For Riot, cases like this tread a difficult balance between relying on the contractual relationships negotiated between teams and players to appropriately guide their behavior, and using our influence to try and ensure a professional, and ethical environment for those parties operating within the LCS ecosystem. Where we feel strongly that unprofessionalism is putting player security at risk, we can and will use our influence to try to ensure that the LCS pro experience is a positive one.
RELEVANT RULES

10.2.10 Moral Turpitude

A Team Member may not engage in any activity which is deemed by the LCS to be immoral, disgraceful, or contrary to conventional standards of proper ethical behavior.
RULING

MYM has violated rule 10.2.10 of the LCS ruleset and will be subject to penalties.
COMPETITION PENALTIES

MYM is:

Fined €5000

Sebastian Rotterdam is:

Banned indefinitely from competing within the LCS as a manager or any other team position


They seem to be ignoring all of the previous reporting that implemented the CEO in the situation. It doesn't look like this is going to be the end of this.

CLG is regretting poaching Scarra now, should have just threatened Dig instead.


In the chat logs, the MYM CEO mentioned how bad it looked for Kori, a big fine, and how he had worked out a PR strategy with RIOT-
When I read that, it was my impression (along with several others), that it seemed like MYM just wanted to cover up its own flaws. However, they had in fact paid wages to Kori, so besides the house-comment, MYM hadn't actually crossed any lines (imo). Also, Riot also didn't comment on the PR-strategy, which indicates that the CEO did indeed talk to Riot.

Regarding the house-comment, think about this: If you were Rotterdam and had threatened to take his mothers house in order to get Kori back, would you then go to the CEO and tell him about the exact conversation? Or would you rather say something like "I convinced him to get back by remindering him that he had written a contract and there will be consequences if he broke it". The latter seems morally acceptable to me, and I think it's much more likely that's what actually occured inside the MYM-organization.

If anything, this just seems like a classical witchhunt where the public want this organization to be evil even if there is no evidence behind it.
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Last Edited: 2015-02-12 09:39:07
February 12 2015 09:14 GMT
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I mean, the chat logs with MYMs CEO show him lying to Kori but I'm sure he's completely innocent and it was all this one manager who was the sole problem with MYM.

According to Riot, they had no involvement with fines.

Any fine levied by the team against Kori is solely at the discretion of the team. Riot had no involvement in this as it is a team/player issue tied to the player's contract and caused by the player not being available to play in their LCS matches at the start of the season.

And yet

[1/30/2015 3:21:15 PM] Khaled Naim: but your fine will be high

[1/30/2015 3:21:24 PM] Khaled Naim: this is what I have discussed with Riot too

[1/30/2015 3:21:27 PM] Khaled Naim: AND

[1/30/2015 3:21:37 PM] Khaled Naim: we will find a pr strategy together with riot

[1/30/2015 3:21:45 PM] Khaled Naim: to make some statements about you and mym and what happened]

What about the part where he told Kori he couldn't play in Challenger even though it seems like he would have been able to?

[1/30/2015 3:08:35 PM] Khaled Naim: “We would have prevented him from playing LCS or CS while he had the MYM contract though"

However, Roar’s CEO, Eric Wong, spoke with someone at Riot Games, about a week earlier, and Wolski playing for the team in the Challenger Qualifiers was not a breach of contract with Riot nor MeetYourMakers. It turns out that what was said to Wolski by Khaled was a lie and Wolski could have played with Roar, but only in the Challenger Series.

:^)

Also weren't there issues with other members of SHC not getting paid, not just Kori? It seems unlikely that after chasing payments for months the problem would still be a tax form.
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