The more I think about it, the more playing only 2 bo1s against opponents seems like a terrible idea. Bo1s are already a fairly volatile format to begin with, adding into that patch changes and so on it makes the season standings much more of a coin flip than they were.

XL Seylum

Canada10 Posts

January 07 2015 22:07 GMT

#23

On January 08 2015 06:52 c1tizen wrote:
I really think that the King of the Hill format for the final worlds seed is a really good idea.

Agreed. There's a reason why Korea has been using it for years. Having all the teams go through a single bracket should make it easier to identify the absolute strongest team at that moment, on top of being super entertaining for the fans. Seeing a team run through the qualifiers like NJWS did is a hell of a lot more exciting than the old style tournament.

Apex

United States7227 Posts

January 07 2015 22:07 GMT

#24

I like the 10th -> 1st auto-relegation. Ensures that teams just don't get all relaxed and actually play to not get last -- and same with the introduction of the championship points system, which should give Spring Split some weight.

Still don't know about Bo1s in the LCS though. Still way too volatile, but meh.

I_Love_Bacon

United States5765 Posts

January 07 2015 22:13 GMT

#25

I don't think there will ever exist a format that everybody is happy about, but at least this is a step in the right direction. It's not perfect and I agree with most of the criticisms thus far, but any improvement is still good news.

DevotioN_00

United States27 Posts

January 07 2015 23:01 GMT

#26

I love the addition of the 10th place team in LCS getting rotated out with the 1st place Challenger team. This will make the lower tier teams take their last games more seriously so they don't drop out automatically. The point system is also interesting. Now if only the LCS were like OGN and had Bo3s we would be set (I would gladly take less games more Bo3s)!

infinitestory

United States4053 Posts

January 07 2015 23:52 GMT

#27

"18 games, down from 28" is a little misleading. Total number of matches during a split, playoffs excluded, is 90 down from 112, which sounds far less drastic.

Faeny

647 Posts

January 07 2015 23:59 GMT

#28

I like the change. While it's true that the auto relegation of 10th might or might not result in a better team being replaced by a worse team, it gives LCS teams much more of an incentive to fight even when low in the standings, and for challenger teams to fight for first place. And while the first place challenger team might be weaker than the 10th LCS team, that may change when the first place challenger team gets the stable funding that being in the LCS provides.

Tortious_Tortoise

United States944 Posts

January 08 2015 00:15 GMT

#29

On January 08 2015 08:52 infinitestory wrote:
"18 games, down from 28" is a little misleading. Total number of matches during a split, playoffs excluded, is 90 down from 112, which sounds far less drastic.

I think at the end of the day, Riot needed to make the league a bit more digestible. Last season, the summer split kind of dragged on during the middle, and now with more teams, there's could have been a problem with people being even less interested.

Fionn

United States23455 Posts

January 08 2015 00:20 GMT

#30

Really enjoying the English Premiere League-type league format with a bit of Korean Champions thrown in.

The_Red_Viper

19533 Posts

January 08 2015 00:27 GMT

#31

Great changes overall i think.
Nothing really to complain about atm :D

Redox

Germany24794 Posts

January 08 2015 00:29 GMT

#32

Very good system. Personally I could not come up with a better one.

Dandel Ion

Austria17960 Posts

January 08 2015 00:30 GMT

#33

it's still bo1 but other than that it's fine i suppose

Shiranuigurumi

1 Post

January 08 2015 00:41 GMT

#34

Good changes, especially getting rid of superweek and circuit point system to make first split actually mean something

AlterKot

Poland7525 Posts

January 08 2015 01:01 GMT

#35

OK so how I would do it is keep the relegation match between 10th and 1st between spring and summer, but have two teams drop after Summer. This way you have circulation allowing new teams to use the resources to get better, but don't screw teams who just got into LCS and are potentially improving. Or get rid of relegation matches and just hold a double-elimination promotion tournament with 5 best teams from CS and 3 dropped out of LCS.

ripvlcn7

32 Posts

January 08 2015 01:07 GMT

#36

I like the idea of the auto-relegation/promotion, honestly. Just scaring off teams as a reward for winning the Challenger Series wasn't good enough.

As an overall system change I think it's a nice first stab at making both splits matter while still giving a great run-up to Worlds with the gauntlet.

Redox

Germany24794 Posts

January 08 2015 01:16 GMT

#37

On January 08 2015 10:01 AlterKot wrote:
OK so how I would do it is keep the relegation match between 10th and 1st between spring and summer, but have two teams drop after Summer. This way you have circulation allowing new teams to use the resources to get better, but don't screw teams who just got into LCS and are potentially improving. Or get rid of relegation matches and just hold a double-elimination promotion tournament with 5 best teams from CS and 3 dropped out of LCS.

With that you would shift even more importance to summer from spring as it already has though.