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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35150 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-05 02:21:39
October 05 2014 02:21 GMT
#961
On October 05 2014 11:12 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2014 11:12 Gahlo wrote:
On October 05 2014 11:08 Sufficiency wrote:
On October 05 2014 10:39 ItsFunToLose wrote:
On October 05 2014 10:33 Sufficiency wrote:
On October 05 2014 10:29 Ketara wrote:
BTW, Sufficiency doesn't buy boots in a 40 minute game.

Cancerous.


I don't buy boots on Janna. I don't think it's worth it.

I got freaking 434 movement speed. That's more than enough.


that's like being too rich or too handsome, its not fucking possible. more always better.

my build hits 522 movespeed on janna, which soothes a dota itch and always gives me a laugh.


It's just gonna get soft capped,

First soft cap is 415.


Last game I was at 434 without boots.

You're thinking about hard caps. A soft cap forces diminishing returns. From 415.X-490, speed gain is reduced to 80% of effectiveness. Anything after that is cut in half.
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
October 05 2014 02:22 GMT
#962
Does Yi get affected by that, since he ignores slows?
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35150 Posts
October 05 2014 02:27 GMT
#963
On October 05 2014 11:22 Dark_Chill wrote:
Does Yi get affected by that, since he ignores slows?

It isn't a slow.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
October 05 2014 02:52 GMT
#964
On October 05 2014 11:21 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2014 11:12 Sufficiency wrote:
On October 05 2014 11:12 Gahlo wrote:
On October 05 2014 11:08 Sufficiency wrote:
On October 05 2014 10:39 ItsFunToLose wrote:
On October 05 2014 10:33 Sufficiency wrote:
On October 05 2014 10:29 Ketara wrote:
BTW, Sufficiency doesn't buy boots in a 40 minute game.

Cancerous.


I don't buy boots on Janna. I don't think it's worth it.

I got freaking 434 movement speed. That's more than enough.


that's like being too rich or too handsome, its not fucking possible. more always better.

my build hits 522 movespeed on janna, which soothes a dota itch and always gives me a laugh.


It's just gonna get soft capped,

First soft cap is 415.


Last game I was at 434 without boots.

You're thinking about hard caps. A soft cap forces diminishing returns. From 415.X-490, speed gain is reduced to 80% of effectiveness. Anything after that is cut in half.


I did say soft cap didn't I?
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
October 05 2014 02:59 GMT
#965
You also have to remember Suff that Janna has a bunch of % movespeed buffs, which stack multiplicatively with the flat movespeed on boots.

One AP item and it actually counteracts the soft cap.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
October 05 2014 03:00 GMT
#966
Or I can skip boots and get two AP items.

It's a trade off.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
October 05 2014 03:47 GMT
#967
Do K6 nowadays max W first?
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 05 2014 03:58 GMT
#968
On October 05 2014 12:47 Sufficiency wrote:
Do K6 nowadays max W first?

Yes, but some still evolve E first.
liftlift > tsm
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
October 05 2014 04:59 GMT
#969
That Zion top/Scarra coach CLG rumor, hngggg

Now we need Alex ich mid and CLG will actually have strong solos
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 05 2014 05:22 GMT
#970
On October 05 2014 13:59 schmutttt wrote:
That Zion top/Scarra coach CLG rumor, hngggg

Now we need Alex ich mid and CLG will actually have strong solos

time grab a korean jungler, and CLG will be filled with potential.
liftlift > tsm
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
October 05 2014 05:30 GMT
#971
When people say 'sup' in pregame I never know if they're greeting me or calling support.
:3
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 05 2014 05:54 GMT
#972
On October 05 2014 14:30 Eiii wrote:
When people say 'sup' in pregame I never know if they're greeting me or calling support.

sup bro.
liftlift > tsm
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
October 05 2014 07:55 GMT
#973
I think Riot needs to put out a public announcement with the proper way to call the support role. It's tearing apart champ select.
saltywet
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Hong Kong1316 Posts
October 05 2014 08:11 GMT
#974
On October 05 2014 16:55 JazzVortical wrote:
I think Riot needs to put out a public announcement with the proper way to call the support role. It's tearing apart champ select.


u kidding? i always see people type "supp" or "supp pref"
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
October 05 2014 08:51 GMT
#975
On October 05 2014 17:11 saltywet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2014 16:55 JazzVortical wrote:
I think Riot needs to put out a public announcement with the proper way to call the support role. It's tearing apart champ select.


u kidding? i always see people type "supp" or "supp pref"

Yes.

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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
October 05 2014 09:01 GMT
#976
On October 05 2014 17:51 Celial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2014 17:11 saltywet wrote:
On October 05 2014 16:55 JazzVortical wrote:
I think Riot needs to put out a public announcement with the proper way to call the support role. It's tearing apart champ select.


u kidding? i always see people type "supp" or "supp pref"

Yes.

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The unlabeled axes are killing me.
Freeeeeeedom
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35150 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-05 09:13:49
October 05 2014 09:12 GMT
#977
On October 05 2014 11:52 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2014 11:21 Gahlo wrote:
On October 05 2014 11:12 Sufficiency wrote:
On October 05 2014 11:12 Gahlo wrote:
On October 05 2014 11:08 Sufficiency wrote:
On October 05 2014 10:39 ItsFunToLose wrote:
On October 05 2014 10:33 Sufficiency wrote:
On October 05 2014 10:29 Ketara wrote:
BTW, Sufficiency doesn't buy boots in a 40 minute game.

Cancerous.


I don't buy boots on Janna. I don't think it's worth it.

I got freaking 434 movement speed. That's more than enough.


that's like being too rich or too handsome, its not fucking possible. more always better.

my build hits 522 movespeed on janna, which soothes a dota itch and always gives me a laugh.


It's just gonna get soft capped,

First soft cap is 415.


Last game I was at 434 without boots.

You're thinking about hard caps. A soft cap forces diminishing returns. From 415.X-490, speed gain is reduced to 80% of effectiveness. Anything after that is cut in half.


I did say soft cap didn't I?

I misinterpreted what you meant.

On October 05 2014 12:47 Sufficiency wrote:
Do K6 nowadays max W first?

Yup, max W then with E>W/Q evolve seems to be how it goes nowadays for soloq.
Complete
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1864 Posts
October 05 2014 09:41 GMT
#978
yo you know how red trinket increases in scanning range at lvl 9? how come sometimes it doesn't increase in range? do you have to go back to base or something first?
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
October 05 2014 10:01 GMT
#979
'cept if Janna builds Talisman she'll have her bonus base MS if that's what you want. And it's the best gold item on her so...

I think it was 2 nights ago that Scarra talked a bit on stream about how he just didn't find something that droven him anymore at Dignitas, and that it was why he left them.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
October 05 2014 10:08 GMT
#980
On October 05 2014 18:41 Complete wrote:
yo you know how red trinket increases in scanning range at lvl 9? how come sometimes it doesn't increase in range? do you have to go back to base or something first?

I've noticed this too, i'm thinking buggerino
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
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