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Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-14 05:41:13
September 14 2014 05:37 GMT
#681
On September 14 2014 14:04 Letmelose wrote:
*snip*

I don't at all disagree. However, I'm not expecting OMG to break through Groups, given their opposition. SHRC maybe.


Group A: EDG+SGW, unless ahq greatly exceeds my expectations. DP is more or less a free win from their wildcards performance.

Group B: TSM will advance, will fucking bet a ban on that, most likely as top seed of group B. TPA are the dark horses, but may surprise everyone. SK vs SHRC? I'd probably say SK, but it will be close. Would not be surprised if SHRC however make it through.

Group C: SGB+Fnatic. LMQ may play a spoiler to let OMG past the group stages, but doubt OMG'll advance from this group. Then again it is Fnatic so they may choke and die.

Group D: I have never heard of KaBuM!, which probably means they're not exceptional enough to make it through what is probably the group of death. I can't really predict this one, TBH. NJWS are favored to get through, and I think C9 are also slightly favored, but that's about all I'm risking here if I had to really bet money. Hardest group to call 100%.

On September 14 2014 14:32 MooMooMugi wrote:
Pretty sure the western world is aware that the Chinese region may very well be the 2nd strongest region after how Royal and OMG played last world championships, hence why so many pros are having such high expectations of EDG this time around


EDIT: If EDG doesn't perform I'll be ashamed of mah heritage. Again, definite top contender for #1 without a doubt.

The Chinese scene does have a number of issues surrounding their overall gameplan, though. Mostly revolving around map vision and objectives (and overtunneling on Baron) from what I saw.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
September 14 2014 05:43 GMT
#682
On September 14 2014 14:27 iCanada wrote:
C9 has one thing no Chinese or Korean team has though:

USA! USA! USA! USA! USA!

White guys hwaiting!


The third NA seed would like a word with you
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
September 14 2014 06:05 GMT
#683
SHRC is going to win their group easily. insec sucks against the top korean teams but he is going to style all over EU and NA scrub junglers because the pick/ban meta is likely going to allow him to choose from kha'zix/rengar/lee sin every game.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-14 06:35:08
September 14 2014 06:34 GMT
#684
On September 14 2014 15:05 chalice wrote:
SHRC is going to win their group easily. insec sucks against the top korean teams but he is going to style all over EU and NA scrub junglers because the pick/ban meta is likely going to allow him to choose from kha'zix/rengar/lee sin every game.

Iunno about "easily." If they can't work out their internal issues then they're gonna have a hard time. Uzi's gone on weibo (chinese twitter) saying how he doesn't even want to play at worlds.

Granted, they've still got time to work it through, but if the rumor mill is anything to go by, these issues aren't completely new.

Personally, I think TPA has a good chance at making it through if Winds shows up strong. Either TSM or SK will make it through if SHRC don't work out their internal problems. Between the two, I think TSM is the stronger team.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
September 14 2014 06:54 GMT
#685
On September 14 2014 14:37 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2014 14:04 Letmelose wrote:
*snip*

I don't at all disagree. However, I'm not expecting OMG to break through Groups, given their opposition. SHRC maybe.


Group A: EDG+SGW, unless ahq greatly exceeds my expectations. DP is more or less a free win from their wildcards performance.

Group B: TSM will advance, will fucking bet a ban on that, most likely as top seed of group B. TPA are the dark horses, but may surprise everyone. SK vs SHRC? I'd probably say SK, but it will be close. Would not be surprised if SHRC however make it through.

Group C: SGB+Fnatic. LMQ may play a spoiler to let OMG past the group stages, but doubt OMG'll advance from this group. Then again it is Fnatic so they may choke and die.

Group D: I have never heard of KaBuM!, which probably means they're not exceptional enough to make it through what is probably the group of death. I can't really predict this one, TBH. NJWS are favored to get through, and I think C9 are also slightly favored, but that's about all I'm risking here if I had to really bet money. Hardest group to call 100%.

Show nested quote +
On September 14 2014 14:32 MooMooMugi wrote:
Pretty sure the western world is aware that the Chinese region may very well be the 2nd strongest region after how Royal and OMG played last world championships, hence why so many pros are having such high expectations of EDG this time around


EDIT: If EDG doesn't perform I'll be ashamed of mah heritage. Again, definite top contender for #1 without a doubt.

The Chinese scene does have a number of issues surrounding their overall gameplan, though. Mostly revolving around map vision and objectives (and overtunneling on Baron) from what I saw.


It is not clear cut at all that TSM will advance. It's not clear if they will even beat SK. SK is pretty strong and were able to challenge Fnatic on several occasions.

Not sure what is going on with Royal but I don't think it'll be easy rither. Then there is TPA - no one knows how good they are.

I would not be surprised if TSM advances, but it's far from a slam dunk.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
September 14 2014 08:57 GMT
#686
I don't see how Group C isn't the "group of death." It has one of the teams that is straight up an automatic "we're advancing, you're all playing for the other slot," and 3 teams that shouldn't be pushovers and can probably all beat each other(Fnatic is the favorite most likely, but LMQ or OMG beating them probably isn't even an upset, just slightly surprising). Group D is just Alliance vs C9 unless NJWS is the Ozone of last year.

That said, the only reason A isn't the group of death is because nobody gives a fuck that AHQ got the middle finger. SGW being a pool 2 team was always going to fuck someone over, Riot just made sure it wasn't any of their western babies.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
September 14 2014 09:17 GMT
#687
I think battle for bronze medal will be interesting this year. At the beginning of the year, everyone was on the NA hype train, citing better infrastructure and importing some of Europe's best. But now suddenly everyone thinks EU is good again, and that ALL is some great white hope. Thankfully we are getting both C9 vs ALL and SK vs TSM, so results should be clear-cut (and if not for that fucking TSM vs C9 game 5 minion, it'd C9 vs SK and ALL vs TSM :/)
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
IamPryda
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1186 Posts
September 14 2014 10:57 GMT
#688
I am really looking forward to seeing Edward gaming I haven't seen any games out of china this year.are they a newer team? Would be nice to see a final that is not samsung vs samsung.
Moar banelings less qq
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-14 11:49:42
September 14 2014 11:42 GMT
#689
I'm watching the LCS pros in Korea stream and froggen is playing fizz against a talon that literally rushed naked homeguard mobos, no swords, no items just homeguard mobos.

What
On September 14 2014 19:57 IamPryda wrote:
I am really looking forward to seeing Edward gaming I haven't seen any games out of china this year.are they a newer team? Would be nice to see a final that is not samsung vs samsung.

U and koro1 are completely new (Though koro1 comes from the hyped as fuck next bonjwas squad of risingstars who were promised to be the next big thing then failed to make LPL and disbanded). Fzzf/Clearlove were support and jungle for the classic world elite roster and namei was ADC for positive energy/world elite's B-team. The team got into LPL by buying LMQ's spot when they left for NA in pursuit of cheeseburgers and freedom. Koro1 and U tend to play supportive style and the team's focuses are on teamfighting and getting namei rolling though occasionally U gets to play syndra and carry or koro gets irelia/jax also koro1's got a pretty good kayle which is normally used in a utility fashion and fzzf's got a sick janna that goes full AP. Generally they aren't the most steamroll laners and it depends heavily on how much lane pressure clearlove feels like putting on, sometimes clearlove will spend the entire game afk farming on J4 and sometimes he will solo win the game on evelynn, strange player to judge sometimes but still by far best in China.
Glorious SEA doto
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
September 14 2014 11:53 GMT
#690
On September 14 2014 14:43 Kupon3ss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2014 14:27 iCanada wrote:
C9 has one thing no Chinese or Korean team has though:

USA! USA! USA! USA! USA!

White guys hwaiting!


The third NA seed would like a word with you


I hope LMQ will go further than C9/TSM, dat chinese hype! <3
hi
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
September 14 2014 12:58 GMT
#691
On September 14 2014 14:43 Kupon3ss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2014 14:27 iCanada wrote:
C9 has one thing no Chinese or Korean team has though:

USA! USA! USA! USA! USA!

White guys hwaiting!


The third NA seed would like a word with you


Pssh doesn't matter.

They are ours now! So, if LMQ does good then NA gets the credit not China!
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
September 14 2014 13:04 GMT
#692
On September 14 2014 21:58 Disengaged wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2014 14:43 Kupon3ss wrote:
On September 14 2014 14:27 iCanada wrote:
C9 has one thing no Chinese or Korean team has though:

USA! USA! USA! USA! USA!

White guys hwaiting!


The third NA seed would like a word with you


Pssh doesn't matter.

They are ours now! So, if LMQ does good then NA gets the credit not China!

Well they have played in na for so long now would be pretty dumb to consider them a chinese team.

You call teams by what region they play in not their nationality.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
September 14 2014 13:52 GMT
#693
--- Nuked ---
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4168 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-14 14:08:52
September 14 2014 14:01 GMT
#694
How you are supposed to play vs Vayne top, assuming that your team already picked top that cannot hold his own vs her. I am not exactly sure what are the drawbacks ov vayne top in such scenario and what are the weaknesses that the team should try to press.

p.s. Lane switch should work perhaps
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
September 14 2014 14:17 GMT
#695
On September 14 2014 23:01 M2 wrote:
How you are supposed to play vs Vayne top, assuming that your team already picked top that cannot hold his own vs her. I am not exactly sure what are the drawbacks ov vayne top in such scenario and what are the weaknesses that the team should try to press.

p.s. Lane switch should work perhaps

Camp her.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
September 14 2014 14:22 GMT
#696
On September 14 2014 14:43 Kupon3ss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2014 14:27 iCanada wrote:
C9 has one thing no Chinese or Korean team has though:

USA! USA! USA! USA! USA!

White guys hwaiting!


The third NA seed would like a word with you


That... That was the joke.
Bam Lee
Profile Joined June 2012
2336 Posts
September 14 2014 14:25 GMT
#697
On September 14 2014 23:01 M2 wrote:
How you are supposed to play vs Vayne top, assuming that your team already picked top that cannot hold his own vs her. I am not exactly sure what are the drawbacks ov vayne top in such scenario and what are the weaknesses that the team should try to press.

p.s. Lane switch should work perhaps


Camp her and dont let her splitpush uncontested for whatever reason
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
September 14 2014 15:25 GMT
#698
I'm surprised Riot hasn't put out champion face icons (the little faces you see in game) as client icons.

I bet if they charged like 100 RP each for them they'd make all the money.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
September 14 2014 16:14 GMT
#699
Did a pro play support Anivia lately? I've seen it twice today.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-14 17:03:24
September 14 2014 17:02 GMT
#700
On September 15 2014 01:14 Gahlo wrote:
Did a pro play support Anivia lately? I've seen it twice today.

Was it with Vayne Because with the wall change it's probably aiight
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