• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 05:15
CET 11:15
KST 19:15
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !10Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2
StarCraft 2
General
What's the best tug of war? The Grack before Christmas Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! Micro Lags When Playing SC2?
Tourneys
$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1 RSL Offline Finals Info - Dec 13 and 14!
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Recommended FPV games (post-KeSPA) BW General Discussion FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle soO on: FanTaSy's Potential Return to StarCraft
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] LB QuarterFinals - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] WB SEMIFINALS - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Path of Exile General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread How Does UI/UX Design Influence User Trust? Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
The (Hidden) Drug Problem in…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2272 users

[Patch 4.9] RIP Kha'Zix General Discussion - Page 83

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 81 82 83 84 85 117 Next
Alright, we're going to call it a day with all the Thorin drama, guys. I figured if it was about SI, onGamers, TSM, etc, it had some relevance to League but somehow you guys managed to devolve the discussion into an issue about race of all things.

Enough is enough. Let's move along now.

-NeoIllusions
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
June 11 2014 13:37 GMT
#1641
Yeah, maybe I should just let this pass and let this debate evolve into a discussion about what other champions can be considered both tanky and high-dps lategame! Does Trundle count thanks to his ultimate? Jax for the same reasons? Are Shyvana's defensive steroids too small to consider her both tanky and high dps? Imagine a potential of such a debate!! It could make all of us look like idiots!
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4123 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-11 13:42:35
June 11 2014 13:39 GMT
#1642
Scip, you know who you're talking to right?
There is nothing to gain from a discussion with PX.

Edit: Except those sexy eyebrow muscles though...
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-11 13:42:00
June 11 2014 13:41 GMT
#1643
Oh no, PX's logic is solid.

Rammus, a champion who can reach 280 AD and 250+ resists, is tankier while doing the same damage as Poppy, a champion who can build 6 damage items while being immune to both damage and crowd control, or Sion, a champion who can have 100,000 HP.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
June 11 2014 13:50 GMT
#1644
i think "sion can have 100k hp" is the lol equivalent of godwins law.
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
June 11 2014 13:54 GMT
#1645
On June 11 2014 22:50 turdburgler wrote:
i think "sion can have 100k hp" is the lol equivalent of godwins law.


But who wins in the end? Sion, Nasus or Veigar?
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-11 13:56:04
June 11 2014 13:55 GMT
#1646
veigar, at 100000000 farm he would still 1 shot sion, the ap ratio of his combo is >3 so he outscales him.
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4123 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-11 14:00:09
June 11 2014 14:00 GMT
#1647
Also with Banshees?
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
June 11 2014 14:02 GMT
#1648
are we really doing this
Arevall
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1133 Posts
June 11 2014 14:06 GMT
#1649
On June 11 2014 23:02 turdburgler wrote:
are we really doing this


Be quiet and go get the popcorn!

Or we could just discuss Rammus top
OmegaKnetus
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany431 Posts
June 11 2014 14:08 GMT
#1650
Rammus top seems so bad honestly. You have zero kill potential if your opponent isnt a total noob, get bullied by ranged and dont want to build ap off the bat. Your only offensive move is literally flashing over minions to get a powerball off.

I played some rammus top just to try it out some time ago but its just honestly bad as fk. (although I killed a mundo when he was op cause he stood in my ult when I stacked Magic Pen . AP Rammus op)
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
June 11 2014 14:09 GMT
#1651
Let this be a lesson that careless use of words like "only" will get you questioned and you should be prepared to back your points with evidence.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
June 11 2014 14:09 GMT
#1652
Im not sure how he is played over on korean server atm, but way back on EUW he was played with teleport and usually rush ninja tabi homeguard, give up top tower rather quickly for ganks on bot+hopefully dragon. It was generally pretty successful, I met top rammus more often than jungle back then and rammus had the highest winrate in the game iirc.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
June 11 2014 14:23 GMT
#1653
On June 11 2014 19:54 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 19:50 Capped wrote:
Rofl did thorin really say his remarks were "off-colour" in his apology after making a monkey remark towards a black person?
Why the actual fuck is this tard in our scene?

wat

In the US, calling somebody a monkey or a primate is a racial insult almost exclusively pointed at black people.

On June 11 2014 17:07 wei2coolman wrote:
Also, let's look at it this way. Week after week Thorin constantly gives CLG shit, right in front of Monte. Guess what the fuck Monte does? He fucking eats it like man, and tells his side of the story, guess what the fuck happens? A lot more sympathy for CLG and Monte. Thorin also mentioned that he or ongamers can't even contact regi to discuss terms of the blackwall, how fucking silly is that? like how salty do you have to be to pull that level of shit?

Just going to point out that when Thorin gives CLG shit right there to Monte's face and he has to defend it, that it is different. The matter is that Monte is actually there to defend it and can respond to it directly. Not to mention that when Thorin gives CLG shit it's about the merit of their play.

Of course he can't contact Regi to discuss terms, that's what blacklisting is. There is no terms, you're not getting in. You lose, good day sir.
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4123 Posts
June 11 2014 14:25 GMT
#1654
I feel like he's basically a gank-heavy jungler who farms top instead of the jungler.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
June 11 2014 14:47 GMT
#1655
On June 11 2014 23:23 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 19:54 arb wrote:
On June 11 2014 19:50 Capped wrote:
Rofl did thorin really say his remarks were "off-colour" in his apology after making a monkey remark towards a black person?
Why the actual fuck is this tard in our scene?

wat

In the US, calling somebody a monkey or a primate is a racial insult almost exclusively pointed at black people.

Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 17:07 wei2coolman wrote:
Also, let's look at it this way. Week after week Thorin constantly gives CLG shit, right in front of Monte. Guess what the fuck Monte does? He fucking eats it like man, and tells his side of the story, guess what the fuck happens? A lot more sympathy for CLG and Monte. Thorin also mentioned that he or ongamers can't even contact regi to discuss terms of the blackwall, how fucking silly is that? like how salty do you have to be to pull that level of shit?

Just going to point out that when Thorin gives CLG shit right there to Monte's face and he has to defend it, that it is different. The matter is that Monte is actually there to defend it and can respond to it directly. Not to mention that when Thorin gives CLG shit it's about the merit of their play.

Of course he can't contact Regi to discuss terms, that's what blacklisting is. There is no terms, you're not getting in. You lose, good day sir.

On June 11 2014 18:28 NeoIllusions wrote:
Alright, we're going to call it a day with all the Thorin drama, guys. I figured if it was about SI, onGamers, TSM, etc, it had some relevance to League but somehow you guys managed to devolve the discussion into an issue about race of all things.

Enough is enough. Let's move along now.

@PX: For those who don't know, what's the difference between the two formats?

hey guys please stop with the discussions about thorin as per neo's post
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
June 11 2014 14:57 GMT
#1656
On June 11 2014 23:47 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 23:23 Gahlo wrote:
On June 11 2014 19:54 arb wrote:
On June 11 2014 19:50 Capped wrote:
Rofl did thorin really say his remarks were "off-colour" in his apology after making a monkey remark towards a black person?
Why the actual fuck is this tard in our scene?

wat

In the US, calling somebody a monkey or a primate is a racial insult almost exclusively pointed at black people.

On June 11 2014 17:07 wei2coolman wrote:
Also, let's look at it this way. Week after week Thorin constantly gives CLG shit, right in front of Monte. Guess what the fuck Monte does? He fucking eats it like man, and tells his side of the story, guess what the fuck happens? A lot more sympathy for CLG and Monte. Thorin also mentioned that he or ongamers can't even contact regi to discuss terms of the blackwall, how fucking silly is that? like how salty do you have to be to pull that level of shit?

Just going to point out that when Thorin gives CLG shit right there to Monte's face and he has to defend it, that it is different. The matter is that Monte is actually there to defend it and can respond to it directly. Not to mention that when Thorin gives CLG shit it's about the merit of their play.

Of course he can't contact Regi to discuss terms, that's what blacklisting is. There is no terms, you're not getting in. You lose, good day sir.

Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 18:28 NeoIllusions wrote:
Alright, we're going to call it a day with all the Thorin drama, guys. I figured if it was about SI, onGamers, TSM, etc, it had some relevance to League but somehow you guys managed to devolve the discussion into an issue about race of all things.

Enough is enough. Let's move along now.

@PX: For those who don't know, what's the difference between the two formats?

hey guys please stop with the discussions about thorin as per neo's post

Maybe put a message at the top? I nearly missed neo's post when catching up on this thread
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-11 15:16:51
June 11 2014 15:11 GMT
#1657
On June 11 2014 23:08 OmegaKnetus wrote:
Rammus top seems so bad honestly. You have zero kill potential if your opponent isnt a total noob, get bullied by ranged and dont want to build ap off the bat. Your only offensive move is literally flashing over minions to get a powerball off.

I played some rammus top just to try it out some time ago but its just honestly bad as fk. (although I killed a mundo when he was op cause he stood in my ult when I stacked Magic Pen . AP Rammus op)

Yeah, I had the same experience. Any Rammus jungle who's ever had to cover a lane knows how horrible it is to lane Rammus.

You gotta remember that at the Challenger level people randomly play Zilean and jungle Brand Ali and Leona. They just troll a lot. Not that all those roles are troll but when Hotshot does jungle ali for the first time in months you know he's trolling.

Just tried Jinx with BT -> Runaan's. Seems nice if people clump up or you get hit by a nidalee and need to heal to full in 3 seconds. I have to remember that when surprising someone standing in creeps I have to lead in pow pow though.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
padfoota
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Taiwan1571 Posts
June 11 2014 15:42 GMT
#1658
Meh...with the new item coming Im more curious about yorick top making a sick comeback
Stop procrastinating
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
June 11 2014 15:45 GMT
#1659
--- Nuked ---
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
June 11 2014 15:55 GMT
#1660
On June 12 2014 00:42 padfoota wrote:
Meh...with the new item coming Im more curious about yorick top making a sick comeback


with the return being on auto attacks only manamune might still be the best on him, not sure tho.
Carrilord has arrived.
Prev 1 81 82 83 84 85 117 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 6h 45m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SortOf 205
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 34303
Rain 2149
Horang2 1259
GuemChi 869
Sea 754
PianO 407
firebathero 405
BeSt 316
Mong 225
Leta 206
[ Show more ]
Soma 192
Mini 98
EffOrt 92
Rush 82
Barracks 57
Snow 55
ZerO 52
ggaemo 50
Sharp 46
sorry 43
Mind 32
Shine 30
yabsab 29
NotJumperer 29
Light 28
JYJ 20
Movie 14
Shinee 14
SilentControl 11
scan(afreeca) 10
Bale 9
ajuk12(nOOB) 4
Noble 4
HiyA 2
Dota 2
XcaliburYe27
League of Legends
JimRising 510
C9.Mang0416
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1880
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor52
Other Games
summit1g6835
singsing435
XaKoH 238
ZerO(Twitch)6
crisheroes5
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV68
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 2
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 11 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 35
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Upcoming Events
Big Brain Bouts
6h 45m
Elazer vs Nicoract
Reynor vs Scarlett
Replay Cast
13h 45m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 23h
Krystianer vs TBD
TriGGeR vs SKillous
Percival vs TBD
ByuN vs Nicoract
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.