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[Post-Season 3] Analysis of Curse Roster Shuffle - Page 6

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upperbound
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2300 Posts
October 15 2013 01:14 GMT
#101
Does Crs have any fans left after this?
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 15 2013 01:20 GMT
#102
On October 15 2013 10:14 upperbound wrote:
Does Crs have any fans left after this?

I still like their LoLPro lineup, demunlol+nyjacky, I WANT TO BELIEVE.
liftlift > tsm
Anakko
Profile Joined August 2012
France1934 Posts
October 15 2013 01:21 GMT
#103
Does that team LoLpro has a chance to qualify for LCS?
TrAce/Cpt Jack for president (or both)
Amarok
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia2003 Posts
October 15 2013 01:51 GMT
#104
On October 15 2013 03:10 Numy wrote:
It's more the case of the timing of all this. If curse was trialing people than they could have said so to the people involved and done it over a period before the roster lock happened. Instead 2 players are no without a team right before the deadline for this promotion and a team is without their core. Poaching happens but really dick timing honestly and not just to ggLA but more so to aphro and probelter


Spot on. Always had a soft spot for Curse, won't be happening in S4.
Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
October 15 2013 04:22 GMT
#105
On October 15 2013 02:50 Vegetarian Wolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2013 02:46 oneofthem wrote:
stratification and stagnation goes hand in hand. there's no pressure on top teams within a region to be better, if they can just destroy up and coming teams with moves like these


they couldve poached c9 like this but they didnt

besides poaching ppl brings good players into the the top flight and helps improve the top tier


The irony of this statement is hilarious. Only like two people on C9 (Lemonnation/Hai) are original members. Everyone from that team got poached (Nien, WildTurtle, Yazuki).

I don't mind players being poached. The bigger issue for me is the whole Aphro/Pobelter situation as it just shows how far eSports has to grow before it's actually legitimate. Do you think any professional team in any sport would pull what Curse pulled in regards to Aphro/Pobelter?
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
October 15 2013 04:27 GMT
#106
On October 15 2013 13:22 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2013 02:50 Vegetarian Wolf wrote:
On October 15 2013 02:46 oneofthem wrote:
stratification and stagnation goes hand in hand. there's no pressure on top teams within a region to be better, if they can just destroy up and coming teams with moves like these


they couldve poached c9 like this but they didnt

besides poaching ppl brings good players into the the top flight and helps improve the top tier


The irony of this statement is hilarious. Only like two people on C9 (Lemonnation/Hai) are original members. Everyone from that team got poached (Nien, WildTurtle, Yazuki).

I don't mind players being poached. The bigger issue for me is the whole Aphro/Pobelter situation as it just shows how far eSports has to grow before it's actually legitimate. Do you think any professional team in any sport would pull what Curse pulled in regards to Aphro/Pobelter?


Thats actually Riot's fault for locking rosters in such a way that it includes players dropped from teams. NFL teams drop players right before the season starts, but rosters don't get locked until significantly after that.
Freeeeeeedom
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
October 15 2013 05:41 GMT
#107
On October 15 2013 13:22 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2013 02:50 Vegetarian Wolf wrote:
On October 15 2013 02:46 oneofthem wrote:
stratification and stagnation goes hand in hand. there's no pressure on top teams within a region to be better, if they can just destroy up and coming teams with moves like these


they couldve poached c9 like this but they didnt

besides poaching ppl brings good players into the the top flight and helps improve the top tier


The irony of this statement is hilarious. Only like two people on C9 (Lemonnation/Hai) are original members. Everyone from that team got poached (Nien, WildTurtle, Yazuki).

I don't mind players being poached. The bigger issue for me is the whole Aphro/Pobelter situation as it just shows how far eSports has to grow before it's actually legitimate. Do you think any professional team in any sport would pull what Curse pulled in regards to Aphro/Pobelter?


They did, regularly. This is one reason why most professional team sports now have players unions and the MLBPA is the organization which did away with the Reserve clause. Which basically bound a player to the organization which signed them no matter who terminated the contract. [ I.E. if you played for the Yankee's and they cut you you could not play for any other team ever unless the Yankee's signed off on it]
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-15 06:12:37
October 15 2013 06:08 GMT
#108
On October 15 2013 14:41 Goumindong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2013 13:22 overt wrote:
On October 15 2013 02:50 Vegetarian Wolf wrote:
On October 15 2013 02:46 oneofthem wrote:
stratification and stagnation goes hand in hand. there's no pressure on top teams within a region to be better, if they can just destroy up and coming teams with moves like these


they couldve poached c9 like this but they didnt

besides poaching ppl brings good players into the the top flight and helps improve the top tier


The irony of this statement is hilarious. Only like two people on C9 (Lemonnation/Hai) are original members. Everyone from that team got poached (Nien, WildTurtle, Yazuki).

I don't mind players being poached. The bigger issue for me is the whole Aphro/Pobelter situation as it just shows how far eSports has to grow before it's actually legitimate. Do you think any professional team in any sport would pull what Curse pulled in regards to Aphro/Pobelter?


They did, regularly. This is one reason why most professional team sports now have players unions and the MLBPA is the organization which did away with the Reserve clause. Which basically bound a player to the organization which signed them no matter who terminated the contract. [ I.E. if you played for the Yankee's and they cut you you could not play for any other team ever unless the Yankee's signed off on it]


Actually, courts struck down most of the reserve clauses in major American sports. Baseball is just different because of an abomination of a Supreme Court ruling from the 1920s that gave MLB an antitrust exception, and even then, it wasnt the Union, but rather an arbitrator that eventually rid baseball of the reserve clause.

Unions may help workers in a vast amount of low-skilled jobs and environments, but in professional sports they are more protective of the owners who could not engage in the kinds of blatant collusion that they do without the protection of a CBA.
Freeeeeeedom
j1nzo
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany367 Posts
October 17 2013 23:43 GMT
#109
good write up!
i'm surprised about this. while i agree that jacky was underperforming i think at this point cop was a sacrafice. i mean he got so much crap and flaming for his playstyle that it started to get ridiculous. ppl would hate on him, just to hate on him...
so i guess at some point the preassure just got to much.
you could clearly see, that his playstyle was influenced by something else. he started flashing in to fights as an ad... tried to create plays (just think of his varus ults...) even when it was rather harming...
so unfortunitely his passive and save playstyle did not seem to work w/ the curse fans... best of luck tho'
and saint could not really carry anymore either. while he was a great jungler during spring split (rightfully getting voted all star over oddone), in summer split his playstyle was adapted to by other teams...
♞ rest in peace Madiba ♞
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