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Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
September 20 2013 16:01 GMT
#4161
[image loading]

Hah you can get negative LP?
No I'm never serious.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-20 16:06:59
September 20 2013 16:03 GMT
#4162
On September 21 2013 01:00 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 00:59 Requizen wrote:
On September 21 2013 00:58 xes wrote:
On September 21 2013 00:17 GTR wrote:
Poll: worse at balancing their respective games

david kim (sc2) (17)
 
57%

morello (lol) (12)
 
40%

icefrog (dota) (1)
 
3%

30 total votes

Your vote: worse at balancing their respective games

(Vote): david kim (sc2)
(Vote): morello (lol)
(Vote): icefrog (dota)


Why is icefrog even on there GTR pls

dota is super unbalanced look how op all the champs are. They'd be super imba in league.

Dota actually is super unbalanced. If you take a look at the amount of champions played, the pool is likely smaller than LoL. There also are plenty of permaban/pick champions that are completely broken, as well as champions that have 0% chance of being ever seen in a serious game.

As some examples: Wisp, Visage, Naga Siren, Chen, Nature's Prophet, what have you.

The list of unviable champions on the other hand is enormous so I won't bother listing those.

Maybe I should call them heroes?


TI3 had something like 95 heroes picked/banned. I don't know if you are being sarcastic or just speaking bullshit.
Kyrie
Profile Joined June 2013
1594 Posts
September 20 2013 16:04 GMT
#4163
dodging will drop your lp below 0, and subsequent wins have to make up negative elo to get back above 0
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
September 20 2013 16:07 GMT
#4164
Shikyo is fucking hilarious
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14048 Posts
September 20 2013 16:12 GMT
#4165
well. The hit box's on mundo is pretty crazy.

TI3 had a ton more games played. its not fair to compare the 2
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
September 20 2013 16:16 GMT
#4166
On September 21 2013 01:04 Clinic wrote:
dodging will drop your lp below 0, and subsequent wins have to make up negative elo to get back above 0

Actually, if you dodge and fall to -3, then you lose the next game, you will get +3 and go back up to 0 anyway lol
Writer:o
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
September 20 2013 16:16 GMT
#4167
On September 19 2013 02:07 Seuss wrote:
The Season 3 Worlds Monte vs CSheep Extravaganza Update:

Day 3 yielded 3 new champions, bringing the total to 47. Vladimir, Tristana, and Lulu all made appearances. None of these were particularly surprising picks.

Notable champions still missing in action include Ashe, Mundo, Annie, and Kassadin. I'd be very surprised if none of these champions were picked before the end, and I'll probably end up giving Kassadin a bye anyway.


someone pls udpate

i know we saw ashe and kassadin did we see anyone else new? was nidalee new?
TranslatorBaa!
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
September 20 2013 16:18 GMT
#4168
I guess Kassadin was the most memorable today :D Don't think we saw anything else new
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
September 20 2013 16:19 GMT
#4169
On September 21 2013 01:12 Sermokala wrote:
well. The hit box's on mundo is pretty crazy.

TI3 had a ton more games played. its not fair to compare the 2

I don't have the data but it doesn't seem like it would be hard to model the curve of new champions per day for both games. Then you could get a decent comparison.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
September 20 2013 16:21 GMT
#4170
Pretty sure Ashe and Nid were new as well.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Lounge
Profile Joined November 2011
537 Posts
September 20 2013 16:29 GMT
#4171
On September 21 2013 01:16 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2013 02:07 Seuss wrote:
The Season 3 Worlds Monte vs CSheep Extravaganza Update:

Day 3 yielded 3 new champions, bringing the total to 47. Vladimir, Tristana, and Lulu all made appearances. None of these were particularly surprising picks.

Notable champions still missing in action include Ashe, Mundo, Annie, and Kassadin. I'd be very surprised if none of these champions were picked before the end, and I'll probably end up giving Kassadin a bye anyway.


someone pls udpate

i know we saw ashe and kassadin did we see anyone else new? was nidalee new?


3 new champions, Ashe, Kassadin and Nidalee. total is at 50.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 20 2013 16:30 GMT
#4172
On September 21 2013 01:29 Lounge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 01:16 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On September 19 2013 02:07 Seuss wrote:
The Season 3 Worlds Monte vs CSheep Extravaganza Update:

Day 3 yielded 3 new champions, bringing the total to 47. Vladimir, Tristana, and Lulu all made appearances. None of these were particularly surprising picks.

Notable champions still missing in action include Ashe, Mundo, Annie, and Kassadin. I'd be very surprised if none of these champions were picked before the end, and I'll probably end up giving Kassadin a bye anyway.


someone pls udpate

i know we saw ashe and kassadin did we see anyone else new? was nidalee new?


3 new champions, Ashe, Kassadin and Nidalee. total is at 50.

What were the goals for Monte and Cheep?
It's your boy Guzma!
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-20 16:33:56
September 20 2013 16:33 GMT
#4173
Difference between david kim and morello. david kim is good at the game.
On September 21 2013 01:30 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 01:29 Lounge wrote:
On September 21 2013 01:16 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On September 19 2013 02:07 Seuss wrote:
The Season 3 Worlds Monte vs CSheep Extravaganza Update:

Day 3 yielded 3 new champions, bringing the total to 47. Vladimir, Tristana, and Lulu all made appearances. None of these were particularly surprising picks.

Notable champions still missing in action include Ashe, Mundo, Annie, and Kassadin. I'd be very surprised if none of these champions were picked before the end, and I'll probably end up giving Kassadin a bye anyway.


someone pls udpate

i know we saw ashe and kassadin did we see anyone else new? was nidalee new?


3 new champions, Ashe, Kassadin and Nidalee. total is at 50.

What were the goals for Monte and Cheep?

I think monte said 55?

If we include bans, it'd be around 52? i think?
liftlift > tsm
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 20 2013 16:38 GMT
#4174
Seems as though Monte wins this round.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
September 20 2013 16:38 GMT
#4175
On September 21 2013 01:33 wei2coolman wrote:
Difference between david kim and morello. david kim is good at the game.
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 01:30 Requizen wrote:
On September 21 2013 01:29 Lounge wrote:
On September 21 2013 01:16 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On September 19 2013 02:07 Seuss wrote:
The Season 3 Worlds Monte vs CSheep Extravaganza Update:

Day 3 yielded 3 new champions, bringing the total to 47. Vladimir, Tristana, and Lulu all made appearances. None of these were particularly surprising picks.

Notable champions still missing in action include Ashe, Mundo, Annie, and Kassadin. I'd be very surprised if none of these champions were picked before the end, and I'll probably end up giving Kassadin a bye anyway.


someone pls udpate

i know we saw ashe and kassadin did we see anyone else new? was nidalee new?


3 new champions, Ashe, Kassadin and Nidalee. total is at 50.

What were the goals for Monte and Cheep?

I think monte said 55?

If we include bans, it'd be around 52? i think?


Is this 50 picks or 50 picks+bans
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
September 20 2013 16:42 GMT
#4176
On September 21 2013 00:38 Haiq343 wrote:
Does anyone really think they got kicked out just for being enthusiastic? Really?

Compared to typical golf-clapping LoL fans and random TSM chanters?

Yeah.
I can totally imagine FGC people there screaming "GET FUCKED!" off of a pick and Officer Riot not approving.

I'm friends with Sanchez so I can ask him later probably.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
September 20 2013 16:43 GMT
#4177
pls we have 2 more weeks left
TranslatorBaa!
Lounge
Profile Joined November 2011
537 Posts
September 20 2013 16:44 GMT
#4178
On September 17 2013 03:50 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2013 03:42 Seuss wrote:
On September 17 2013 02:55 Don_Julio wrote:
The best part about Season 3 has been the diversified champion pool for adcs. Almost every champion that fits the role has been played in the LCS at one point.
The overbuff of Triforce completely ruined that aspect just at the right moment for Worlds. Sad.


You're correct that the Trinity Force buff hasn't helped anything, but "At one point" is a tricky phrase. We saw Draven played in the LCS "at one point", but the chances of him appearing at Worlds were and are practically nil. The same can be said for many other champions who were popular picks in the LCS "at one point".

What matters is the diversity that exists now, and generally speaking I don't think it's particularly great. Here are all the picks for each role so far:

  • Top: Kennen, Malphite, Nasus, Renekton, Rumble, Shen, Singed, Yorick, Zac
  • Jungle: Aatrox, Elise, Evelynn, Jarvan, Lee Sin, Nocturne, Vi
  • Mid: Ahri, Diana, Gragas, Fizz, Lissandra, Orianna, Swain, Ryze, Zed
  • ADC: Caitlyn, Corki, Ezreal, Kog'maw, Vayne
  • Support: Fiddlesticks, Leona, Nami, Thresh, Sona, Zyra

I've bolded those that surprised me. Out of a pool of 115 champions we've seen a total of 36, with 5 big surprises. Granted, that's only day 1, but I doubt that number is going to dramatically expand going forward. By the time Worlds is over I expect we'll see another 19 champions at most, leaving us at less than half of the available pool (which excludes Lucian).

It's not a complete diversity disaster, but it could be better.



Really? I'd be surprised if less than 70 champions (somewhere around 2/3) get picked over the course of the tournament...


Monte aiming for 55, Cheep for 70+.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
September 20 2013 16:49 GMT
#4179
On September 21 2013 01:16 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2013 02:07 Seuss wrote:
The Season 3 Worlds Monte vs CSheep Extravaganza Update:

Day 3 yielded 3 new champions, bringing the total to 47. Vladimir, Tristana, and Lulu all made appearances. None of these were particularly surprising picks.

Notable champions still missing in action include Ashe, Mundo, Annie, and Kassadin. I'd be very surprised if none of these champions were picked before the end, and I'll probably end up giving Kassadin a bye anyway.


someone pls udpate

i know we saw ashe and kassadin did we see anyone else new? was nidalee new?

Wat, Mundo? At least on EU, he was the FotM like 3? months back when Nunu was still kinda all the rage. I haven't seen him in over a month.
For champions we haven't seen but will, I will predict Kayle, Ziggs and Xerath.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 20 2013 16:50 GMT
#4180
On September 21 2013 01:43 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
pls we have 2 more weeks left

Oh I thought your predictions were only for Groups.

Also Scip who the fuck is going to play Xerath? I mean I love him and all but I just don't see that happening.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
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