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brokenwatch
Profile Joined July 2011
Azerbaijan99 Posts
August 10 2013 18:51 GMT
#4061
I think rabbadons is fine but you cant just wait to be engaged upon.Do the moves bimbooo
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23442 Posts
August 10 2013 18:51 GMT
#4062
yeah scips team had 4x ap zac can just burst dat so hard
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23442 Posts
August 10 2013 18:53 GMT
#4063
On August 11 2013 03:51 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 03:50 Slayer91 wrote:
zyra shoulda went zhonyas first item, deathcap was so bad zyras ap ratios arent even that great
would have saved her so many times

DC first was fine, she didn't die too often early on. Zhonya's definitely should have been 2nd buy or 3rd buy,


deathcap gives barely more ap than zhonyas and the damage increase is not that great compared to like the best active in the game
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-10 18:54:10
August 10 2013 18:53 GMT
#4064
this is your chance to shine
theorycraft something that works

we are continuing soon
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23442 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-10 18:54:39
August 10 2013 18:54 GMT
#4065
mozilla firefox (toplane ahri)
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
August 10 2013 18:54 GMT
#4066
On August 11 2013 03:53 Scip wrote:
this is your chance to shine
theorycraft something that works

we are continuing soon

lol turning to the TL think tank.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Pooshlmer
Profile Joined August 2008
United States1001 Posts
August 10 2013 18:54 GMT
#4067
I didn't understand the siege with Baron. Why not just push bot while top has an enormous wave going in?
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-10 18:55:20
August 10 2013 18:55 GMT
#4068
On August 11 2013 03:53 Scip wrote:
this is your chance to shine
theorycraft something that works

we are continuing soon


Don't pick nunu.Leave lee open
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23442 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-10 19:02:28
August 10 2013 18:55 GMT
#4069
the double ap comp with no engage just didndt really make any sense since ur only chance is to land thresh hook ro zyra q or something but thats way too risky with the comp they had
rikytan just consisntely raped the zhonyasless zyra as well

also they are picking vayne a lot u should get anti vayne champs like malphite and vi rapprapprapp and SONA perhaps
vayne got stronk cause sona just rapes lanes like a boss
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-10 18:58:38
August 10 2013 18:57 GMT
#4070
On August 11 2013 03:53 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 03:51 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 11 2013 03:50 Slayer91 wrote:
zyra shoulda went zhonyas first item, deathcap was so bad zyras ap ratios arent even that great
would have saved her so many times

DC first was fine, she didn't die too often early on. Zhonya's definitely should have been 2nd buy or 3rd buy,


deathcap gives barely more ap than zhonyas and the damage increase is not that great compared to like the best active in the game

But during her time between DC and Voidstaff, she didn't need the zhonyas active.
DC, is also ~40 AP more, and she didn't really need the early armor on Zhonya's.

Was kennen banned that game? Could run Kennen with 2v1 lanes. Cait+Fiddle lane + J4 jungle.
liftlift > tsm
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
August 10 2013 18:58 GMT
#4071
On August 11 2013 03:55 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 03:53 Scip wrote:
this is your chance to shine
theorycraft something that works

we are continuing soon


Don't pick nunu.Leave lee open


He speaks the truth!
Jaedong :3
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23442 Posts
August 10 2013 18:58 GMT
#4072
meh, anytime you haev zhonyas you can automatically play much safer so even if there were situations where zhonya wasnt' "needed" it would still be almost always better than dcap

also zhonyas works against lee and im pretty sure lee got a lot of dmg on zyra more than a few times
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-10 19:04:15
August 10 2013 18:59 GMT
#4073
On August 11 2013 03:58 Slayer91 wrote:
meh, anytime you haev zhonyas you can automatically play much safer so even if there were situations where zhonya wasnt' "needed" it would still be almost always better than dcap

also zhonyas works against lee and im pretty sure lee got a lot of dmg on zyra more than a few times

Against that Lee? lol.

Run Ahri, Ahri is op'd.
liftlift > tsm
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23442 Posts
August 10 2013 19:00 GMT
#4074
he's jsut playing bad now to get them to leave lee open, he's going to bust out the insec now
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
August 10 2013 19:05 GMT
#4075
On August 11 2013 04:00 Slayer91 wrote:
he's jsut playing bad now to get them to leave lee open, he's going to bust out the insec now

The great hustle
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
August 10 2013 19:05 GMT
#4076
ye, more or less what I was thginkning
we're going to do something that makes more sense now
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
August 10 2013 19:09 GMT
#4077
Ya, maybe more hard engage, and since the jungler sems to be their weak point it could give you room to use lanes with strong scaling that would otherwise be at risk versus Lee.
And make sure to have strong scaling since their early game doesn't seem like their forte they'll probably aim at it, like what they do with Vayne.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
August 10 2013 19:10 GMT
#4078
thanks for the help, starting soon
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
August 10 2013 19:15 GMT
#4079
2 european or western teams in the upper bracket of TI gives me hope for S3 finals, then I remember OGN vs LCS level of play.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
August 10 2013 19:16 GMT
#4080
On August 11 2013 04:15 AsnSensation wrote:
2 european or western teams in the upper bracket of TI gives me hope for S3 finals, then I remember OGN vs LCS level of play.

They don't have KR teams to compete against
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
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