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Looks like we're back to status quo. Hope more of you lurkers unburrow and talk with us. :3

If you have any issues or comments about the new design, feel free to PM Neo.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
June 05 2013 19:47 GMT
#5581
On June 06 2013 04:45 c.Deadly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 04:32 Jojo131 wrote:
Over Skype or whatever I can understand saying Cassi as to not be confused with Kass maybe.

Although if those two are somehow in the same team for this to even be a concern, then something else is up.


Just call them "Snake Woman" and "Scuba Man" problem solved


but what if he's using astronautilus??
TranslatorBaa!
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
June 05 2013 19:48 GMT
#5582
its just a latiny-european thing
fuckers love dem vowels
bmn
Profile Joined August 2010
886 Posts
June 05 2013 19:49 GMT
#5583
On June 06 2013 03:24 thenexusp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 02:51 101toss wrote:
On June 06 2013 02:47 wei2coolman wrote:
Crits aren't really RNG; look up markov chains.

the crit algorithm is pretty counterintuitive

not sure why it isn't uniformly random (or pseudo-random if you want to get really technical) as opposed to the increased chance after not critting system

Most people don't like actual uniformly random variables; markov chains basically reduce the variance of the result without changing the expected value.

For example, which of the following sequences would you rather prefer happen in a game (say the 6's are critical hits)

[5, 3, 3, 4, 1, 6, 6, 6, 5, 3, 2, 4, 4, 3, 4, 1, 1, 2, 4, 1]
[2, 6, 1, 4, 2, 5, 6, 1, 2, 4, 1, 5, 3, 2, 4, 6, 3, 1, 4, 5]

Most people prefer the second sequence to the first, even though the first sequence is actually the one that's truly random. The first sequence was generated by rolling a 6 sided die 20 times (in python). The second sequence was generated by rolling a 6 sided die, but rerolling the ones that matched either the previous throw or the previous previous throw. In both cases the expected number of 6's is the same (20/6), but the first sequence is prone to having long runs with 6's and long runs without 6's, while the 6's in the second sequence are more evenly distributed throughout.



Both of your sequences are exactly equally likely to be the result of rolling a 6-sided die 20 times.
It doesn't make sense to provide a specific sequence of numbers and claim that either one is "truly random".
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
June 05 2013 19:58 GMT
#5584
that's not how probability works given the specific restrictions he lists
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
June 05 2013 19:59 GMT
#5585
On June 06 2013 04:49 bmn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 03:24 thenexusp wrote:
On June 06 2013 02:51 101toss wrote:
On June 06 2013 02:47 wei2coolman wrote:
Crits aren't really RNG; look up markov chains.

the crit algorithm is pretty counterintuitive

not sure why it isn't uniformly random (or pseudo-random if you want to get really technical) as opposed to the increased chance after not critting system

Most people don't like actual uniformly random variables; markov chains basically reduce the variance of the result without changing the expected value.

For example, which of the following sequences would you rather prefer happen in a game (say the 6's are critical hits)

[5, 3, 3, 4, 1, 6, 6, 6, 5, 3, 2, 4, 4, 3, 4, 1, 1, 2, 4, 1]
[2, 6, 1, 4, 2, 5, 6, 1, 2, 4, 1, 5, 3, 2, 4, 6, 3, 1, 4, 5]

Most people prefer the second sequence to the first, even though the first sequence is actually the one that's truly random. The first sequence was generated by rolling a 6 sided die 20 times (in python). The second sequence was generated by rolling a 6 sided die, but rerolling the ones that matched either the previous throw or the previous previous throw. In both cases the expected number of 6's is the same (20/6), but the first sequence is prone to having long runs with 6's and long runs without 6's, while the 6's in the second sequence are more evenly distributed throughout.



Both of your sequences are exactly equally likely to be the result of rolling a 6-sided die 20 times.
It doesn't make sense to provide a specific sequence of numbers and claim that either one is "truly random".


It doesn't matter that both sequences are equally likely to be a random result. What matters is that the second one was the result of a non-random process which cannot generate the first sequence.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 20:06:59
June 05 2013 19:59 GMT
#5586
It's also kinda slavic thing because in slavic languages you pronounce things the way they are spelled.
so you wouldn't pronounce Naut as "no:t" but as "Naut" which is a long ass sillable, easier to split it into 2 by addind an extra vowel "Nau-ti"

someone just messaged me that team Siren disbanded, confirmed on OddOne stream. true/false?
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
June 05 2013 20:08 GMT
#5587
On June 06 2013 04:59 Scip wrote:
It's also kinda slavic thing because in slavic languages you pronounce things the way they are spelled.
so you wouldn't pronounce Naut as "no:t" but as "Naut" which is a long ass sillable, easier to split it into 2 by addind an extra vowel "Nau-ti"

someone just messaged me that team Siren disbanded, confirmed on OddOne stream. true/false?


Alright Skippy
Freeeeeeedom
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
June 05 2013 20:09 GMT
#5588
On June 06 2013 04:44 Sponkz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 03:44 Alaric wrote:
Why do people keep shortening Nautilus to "Nauti" instead of "Naut"? It's so ugly! D:

On June 06 2013 03:41 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On June 06 2013 03:39 Alaric wrote:
On June 06 2013 03:37 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On June 06 2013 03:36 cLutZ wrote:
I can't wait to be a Gold II Renekton smurf


We all aspire to such lofty heights.

Na, I aspire to making videos as inspired and funny as that xerino-stuff-guy. Best 3 minutes of my life, clearly.


I aspire to become an LCS-playing pro by playing one axe-wielding lane bully while being carried by "more talented" players.

+ Show Spoiler +
Was that over the top? I can't never tell.

+ Show Spoiler +
I missed the reference. :<


My guess would be that it divides the word from Naut to Nau-ti or Vlad to Vla-di etc. not sure tho xD I still prefer naut/vlad/trynd so much easier to type ^^

I mean if you really want a i in there just call him Spiderman and be done with it.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
nosliw
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2716 Posts
June 05 2013 20:17 GMT
#5589
On June 05 2013 20:12 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
take all this with a grain of salt

from the PTT grapevine in taiwan: people are saying that dinter has connections with the upper echelons of Garena/management and was thus able to pull in Sarsky (who was his ex-teammate from ALC) even though he's not that great. lotsa angry people pulling out their pitchforks

Do you have a source? I can read Chinese, so I'd like to know it too.
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
June 05 2013 20:17 GMT
#5590
On June 06 2013 04:59 Scip wrote:
It's also kinda slavic thing because in slavic languages you pronounce things the way they are spelled.
so you wouldn't pronounce Naut as "no:t" but as "Naut" which is a long ass sillable, easier to split it into 2 by addind an extra vowel "Nau-ti"

someone just messaged me that team Siren disbanded, confirmed on OddOne stream. true/false?

they disbanded already?
Bronze player stuck in platinum
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
June 05 2013 20:18 GMT
#5591
On June 06 2013 04:59 Scip wrote:
someone just messaged me that team Siren disbanded, confirmed on OddOne stream. true/false?

if this were true then it would be on the front of the league subreddit

of course that isn't the case
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 05 2013 20:20 GMT
#5592
"this guy is a fucking sniper, except he's not". -qtpie
god bless for qt's stream.
liftlift > tsm
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
June 05 2013 20:20 GMT
#5593
On June 06 2013 04:45 c.Deadly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 04:32 Jojo131 wrote:
Over Skype or whatever I can understand saying Cassi as to not be confused with Kass maybe.

Although if those two are somehow in the same team for this to even be a concern, then something else is up.


Just call them "Snake Woman" and "Scuba Man" problem solved

Or Egyptian Medusa and Blink Man.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
June 05 2013 20:28 GMT
#5594
On June 06 2013 05:20 canikizu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 04:45 c.Deadly wrote:
On June 06 2013 04:32 Jojo131 wrote:
Over Skype or whatever I can understand saying Cassi as to not be confused with Kass maybe.

Although if those two are somehow in the same team for this to even be a concern, then something else is up.


Just call them "Snake Woman" and "Scuba Man" problem solved

Or Egyptian Medusa and Blink Man.

But what if she's using the greek skin?
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
June 05 2013 20:32 GMT
#5595
Just call her by the yell she hisses when she ults.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
June 05 2013 20:33 GMT
#5596
On June 06 2013 05:32 Alaric wrote:
Just call her by the yell she hisses when she ults.


SKRAAAAAAAAAAAAW!!!!
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
June 05 2013 20:35 GMT
#5597
I honestly believe it will enhance your gaming experience, particularly when using vocal chat.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
June 05 2013 20:47 GMT
#5598
WTB "Naut", "Cassi", "Trynda", "Vladi", and "Ulti" vs "Nauti", "Cass", "Trynd", "Vlad", and "Ult" poll.

Stupid Blackberry won't let me.
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AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
June 05 2013 20:48 GMT
#5599
On June 06 2013 05:47 JonGalt wrote:
WTB "Naut", "Cassi", "Trynda", "Vladi", and "Ulti" vs "Nauti", "Cass", "Trynd", "Vlad", and "Ult" poll.

Stupid Blackberry won't let me.


Ask and ye shall receive.

Poll: Which is Better?

"Naut", "Cass", "Trynd", "Vlad", and "Ult" (36)
 
82%

"Nauti", "Cassi", "Trynda", "Vladi", and "Ulti" (8)
 
18%

44 total votes

Your vote: Which is Better?

(Vote): "Nauti", "Cassi", "Trynda", "Vladi", and "Ulti"
(Vote): "Naut", "Cass", "Trynd", "Vlad", and "Ult"

WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 20:53:04
June 05 2013 20:52 GMT
#5600
should I feel bad If I unconciously use Naut, Cass, Vlad but also Trynda and ulti?

oh and usually Kassa for Kassadin to differentiate between those too, although I've probably never played a game where both Cass and Kass appeared
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