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MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
April 15 2013 20:50 GMT
#1301
Wickd has no skin. Obv sOAZ is going to win.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
April 15 2013 20:51 GMT
#1302
Rofl that level 1
Glorious SEA doto
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
April 15 2013 20:52 GMT
#1303
Lane won derp.

Here comes the exhaust/ignite cheese.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
April 15 2013 20:52 GMT
#1304
On April 16 2013 05:50 MoonBear wrote:
Wickd has no skin. Obv sOAZ is going to win.

Always comes back to the skins for you lol
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-15 20:53:08
April 15 2013 20:52 GMT
#1305
On April 16 2013 04:21 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2013 02:48 wei2coolman wrote:
Unless your playing in the highest level, counters does not play as much of a factor as level of skill.


That is so wrong it's not even funny.

What you are saying is that you can always outplay your opponent regardless of the match up - which is true - but whoever asked the question isn't going to become challenger tier in 1 day.

Show nested quote +
On April 16 2013 04:19 wei2coolman wrote:
On April 16 2013 03:30 sylverfyre wrote:
On April 16 2013 02:48 wei2coolman wrote:
Unless your playing in the highest level, counters does not play as much of a factor as level of skill.

As a top lane main in silver, I totally disagree. If you have a lane advantage ("Counter") and are anywhere near your opponent in skill, it's a lot easier to get ahead in farm / put pressure on the lane / win the lane. Sure, if I'm up against a Diamond top laner, it won't help me that I'm in an advantageous lane matchup, but I can do reliably very well if I have a favorable lane matchup against a gold or even plat level player. Especially when you consider that Lower level players don't always have total familiarity with every matchup and often play their champ / build their champ the same every game, a lane advantage can often be leveraged further than it can be at the top level, where players know how to play defensively and adapt and play to cover their ass in the disadvantage.

It helps that "not losing" your lane is just as important as "winning" it, especially if the teams are close to even, but their strong player is your lane opponent and your strong player is off winning some other lane.

My point is if your in silver you should be learning to play the game, not win games. No doubt counter lane helps you in that elo to win games, but its just a crutch (insert smash's blog post about crutches). You lose so much understanding by trying to avoid bad matchups


I used to tutor calculus. One question people often ask is "how do I get better at calculus?". Since I have a master degree in mathematics, I tell him "FUCK CALCULUS JUST GET ON MY LEVEL YOU NUB AND DO THESE GRADUATE MATH COURSES INSTEAD". Am I being helpful here?

Seriously though, discussing counters is totally valid regardless of your skill level. It's possible to outplay a vastly superior lane opponent with a good match up - such as going Kassadin/LeBlanc against the old Katarina.


I disagree with that analogy. I would say a better analogy using math would be:
In grade 12 math some teachers allow graphing calculators, picking a counter pick is like using a calculator to graph 5sin(1/2x)+5 while playing out your bad matchup is doing it by hand. You learn more from the latter.

Edit: Not pressing F5 OP.
Twitch.tv/Ragequitbm for all the fans
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
April 15 2013 20:53 GMT
#1306
90k people watching this o.O
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
WarpStatus
Profile Joined October 2010
United States18 Posts
April 15 2013 20:53 GMT
#1307
Why did he take exhaust ignite? I am disappointed because that is not a realistic scenario...
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
April 15 2013 20:53 GMT
#1308
On April 16 2013 05:50 kongoline wrote:
wukong is good vs jayce and soaz mained him for quite some time so i would give advantage to soaz

What Wukong is very weak early game. lol
Terran
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
April 15 2013 20:54 GMT
#1309
On April 16 2013 05:53 WarpStatus wrote:
Why did he take exhaust ignite? I am disappointed because that is not a realistic scenario...


Really? You're disappointed that a 1v1 isn't a realistic scenario...
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
April 15 2013 20:54 GMT
#1310
On April 16 2013 05:54 Goshawk. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2013 05:53 WarpStatus wrote:
Why did he take exhaust ignite? I am disappointed because that is not a realistic scenario...


Really? You're disappointed that a 1v1 isn't a realistic scenario...

I demand snoopeh and cyanide join for maximum realism.
Glorious SEA doto
Argoth.
Profile Joined December 2004
Germany1961 Posts
April 15 2013 20:54 GMT
#1311
closing in on 100k viewers. crazy!
upperbound
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2300 Posts
April 15 2013 20:54 GMT
#1312
That level 6 all in might still be good enough.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-15 20:56:08
April 15 2013 20:54 GMT
#1313
redpot is so lame

WOw nice play from soaz actually winning the trade without red pot
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
April 15 2013 20:55 GMT
#1314
On April 16 2013 05:54 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2013 05:54 Goshawk. wrote:
On April 16 2013 05:53 WarpStatus wrote:
Why did he take exhaust ignite? I am disappointed because that is not a realistic scenario...


Really? You're disappointed that a 1v1 isn't a realistic scenario...

I demand snoopeh and cyanide join for maximum realism.


Why not have a 5v5?? That would just be too crazy!
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
April 15 2013 20:55 GMT
#1315
Rofl did Wicked just missed a POINT BLANK shot?
Terran
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
April 15 2013 20:57 GMT
#1316
Wicked doesn't seem too experienced with Jayce. He doesn't end his melee combos with E like he should, or is there a reason why he wouldn't do so?
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
April 15 2013 20:58 GMT
#1317
Monkey couldn't get to late game
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Gator
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States3432 Posts
April 15 2013 20:59 GMT
#1318
wickd goin for the cheese pretty lame tbh
TSM
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-15 20:59:30
April 15 2013 20:59 GMT
#1319
LOL THAT WAS SO BAD FROM SOAZ THEY WERE RIGHT. HE CHOCKED. EG STYLE.
The legend of Darien lives on
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
April 15 2013 20:59 GMT
#1320
holy crap...wickd is so bad
cool beans
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