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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-08 23:49:49
February 01 2013 23:17 GMT
#1
Welcome user, to the TeamLiquid League of Legends subforum. As a LoL community that has been around for three years now, we are host to a number of interesting personalities and a wealth of resources that aims to help everyone improve as they play.
While we share many of the guidelines of TeamLiquid in general, our section has a number of specialized rules that are help keep our community orderly and well-run.

From all of us at TL LoL, we hope you enjoy your stay here and come back regularly for the camaraderie.

1. Thou shall use General Discussion
General Discussion has a multi-purpose function. Nine times out of ten, if you have a question and you’re unsure about where to ask it, use the General Discussion thread. The GD serves as a watering hole for the TL LoL community and moves as quickly as a chatroom. To prevent the thread saturation and to maintain up to date information, the GD is reset with every new patch.


2. Thou shall use Champion Threads
In the LoL Strategy subforum, we have a Champion Overview sticky that provides links to every individual champion thread. These threads are typically authored by one of our TeamLiquid users who has expressed interest and proficiency with said champion and is willing to share his or her expertise with the rest of the community. For specialized questions about specific champions, use its respective champion thread. Read first, absorb what you can, ask questions afterwards.

Before you ever ask a Champion specific question in General Discussion, check the Champion thread and the last 2-3 pages first. If your question hasn't been answered yet, ask it in the thread.


3. Thou shall QQ and Brag appropriately
While whines and brags are not exceptionally interesting to read, TL LoL does not censor users from doing so. We simply ask that you use the appropriate threads to express yourself. Individually, reading a player’s bad experience is not incredibly interesting. Reading a page of schadenfreude? Hilarity ensues.


4. Thou shall not complain about bans or the Tribunal
Like whines in general, most people are not all that sympathetic when you get banned, whether if it’s a temp ban from TeamLiquid or a ban in game from Riot and the Tribunal. Majority of the time, the bans are warranted, believe it or not. If you are part of the minority where a ban is somehow unwarranted, bringing it up on a forum isn’t going to help your cause.


5. Thou shall generate discussion with new threads
One of the main points we encourage on TeamLiquid is the promotion of thoughtful discussion. While everyone is entitled to making a new thread, ask yourself first, “Will other users be able to carry out a balanced conversation if I create this thread?” If your idea is not entirely conducive to discussion but you still want to share it, General Discussion is likely a better place to post.


6. Thou shall justify opinions properly
While we granted all our users a fair leeway of expressing their ideas, we ask that you back up your opinions with some semblance of support. Firsthand experience will certainly provide more support when you give another user a suggestion on how to play. As with StarCraft, TL LoL users enjoy theorycraft but understand there’s a line between a novel epiphany versus a bad idea.


7. Thou shall not spam
In tandem with avoiding non-productive threads, do not make posts that have little to no content. ‘+1’, bumps, memes, and image macros should be avoided at all cost.


8. Thou shall not speak of taboo subjects
There are certain topics that we do not broach while on TL LoL. These issues have been “discussed” to death and they are based largely about opinion where there’s little to no room of proving right or wrong.
+ Show Spoiler [Topics to Avoid] +
Elo hell, “what is a tank”, AD v ArPen runes, GP10 items


9. Thou shall respect forum veterans
Unlike reddit and other LoL communities, there is a degree of favoritism shown towards TL LoL veterans. These individuals are regulars and have demonstrated over time that their opinions carry weight. This does not mean that they are always correct but be considerate when conversing. These individuals have been with the community for a long time and have displayed a large degree of contribution to our subforum.


10. Thou shall last hit all the minions and have fun
Last but not least, have fun while you’re here on TeamLiquid. We are all passionate about League of Legends. Play together, discuss, cheer, there’s many things to make you a part of the community. And we leave you with one simple advice, learn to last hit better. Sometime as simple as last hitting can help you regardless what skill level you are at. More gold, better items, better chance at winning.


Credit to mensrea, for creating TeamLiquid’s original 10 Commandments
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
February 02 2013 00:03 GMT
#2
I'm surprised Dota vs LoL and gp10 wasn't included in the taboo. Especially gp10.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
February 02 2013 00:10 GMT
#3
gp10 discussions are very important.

Also I fail at commandment #10, do i get kicked now?
A backwards poet writes inverse.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-02 00:12:54
February 02 2013 00:11 GMT
#4
Commandment 8 is adaptive. Content in spoiler is meant to be updated. I'll add GP10 now.

Edit: Dota2 v LoL is fine, as long as the comparisons are merited. I think it's ignorant to blanket ban any Dota2 discussion in the LoL subforum.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
February 02 2013 00:14 GMT
#5
Noooo

where do i go if i want to talk about gp10's now???
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Romitelli
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Brunei Darussalam566 Posts
February 02 2013 00:26 GMT
#6
+1

+ Show Spoiler +
loljk. Great post, every major subforum on TL should adapt the commandments accordingly.
Zed's dead, baby, Zed's dead.
remedium
Profile Joined July 2011
United States939 Posts
February 02 2013 00:32 GMT
#7
You forgot the one about how arguing with TheYango about math is a poor use of time and resources.
Stay positive!
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
February 02 2013 00:35 GMT
#8
On February 02 2013 09:32 remedium wrote:
You forgot the one about how arguing with TheYango about math is a poor use of time and resources.


As a regular, it's fun watching no-namers come out of the woodwork and try to convince Yango that he's wrong and they're right. XD
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
February 02 2013 02:29 GMT
#9
On February 02 2013 09:35 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2013 09:32 remedium wrote:
You forgot the one about how arguing with TheYango about math is a poor use of time and resources.


As a regular, it's fun watching no-namers come out of the woodwork and try to convince Yango that he's wrong and they're right. XD

I will second that.
Does he lay just as much smackdown in the DotA 2 forums?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14111 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-02 02:39:39
February 02 2013 02:38 GMT
#10
nvm sticky magics.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
February 03 2013 17:48 GMT
#11
On February 02 2013 09:35 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2013 09:32 remedium wrote:
You forgot the one about how arguing with TheYango about math is a poor use of time and resources.


As a regular, it's fun watching no-namers come out of the woodwork and try to convince Yango that he's wrong and they're right. XD

Anytime I see someone try to argue with him and their post count reads "132" I can't help but feel a little bad. THEY JUST DON'T KNOW YET.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-03 18:04:13
February 03 2013 18:01 GMT
#12
On February 02 2013 09:35 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2013 09:32 remedium wrote:
You forgot the one about how arguing with TheYango about math is a poor use of time and resources.


As a regular, it's fun watching no-namers come out of the woodwork and try to convince Yango that he's wrong and they're right. XD


It happens though, it happens...

And #9 could be also adapted to encompass commentators? I know we don't generally allow commentator bashing but was wondering if that could make it on the list of commandments, maybe a topic under #8? If it's not against the rules I certainly wouldn't mind discussing the finer aspects of Rivman teh 3's game analysis.
Hey! How you doin'?
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
February 04 2013 10:44 GMT
#13
Trying to last hit the first page

CMONNNNNNN GOLD
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 05 2013 02:33 GMT
#14
On February 04 2013 19:44 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Trying to last hit the first page

CMONNNNNNN GOLD

Real Mature
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
February 05 2013 10:57 GMT
#15
Oh no.... no more trolling on gd?
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 06 2013 05:49 GMT
#16
On February 05 2013 19:57 Sufficiency wrote:
Oh no.... no more trolling on gd?

Personally Im banking on #9 saving my ass on that one.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
February 06 2013 06:03 GMT
#17
Feel free to test your veterancy. Temp bans may or may not follow.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
MCMilo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States365 Posts
February 06 2013 06:18 GMT
#18
be nice to me pls
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
February 06 2013 06:36 GMT
#19
On February 06 2013 15:18 Milestone wrote:
be nice to me pls

Forum vet my ass.
God Bless
ChaoSbringer
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Australia1382 Posts
February 06 2013 07:34 GMT
#20
Yay for commandments, but I can't get the feeling that #8 should be moved up to #1, enlarged and made to flash colours to attract attention and highlight its utmost importance.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 06 2013 07:53 GMT
#21
On February 06 2013 16:34 ChaoSbringer wrote:
Yay for commandments, but I can't get the feeling that #8 should be moved up to #1, enlarged and made to flash colours to attract attention and highlight its utmost importance.

Or Neo should break out the monkeys.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
February 06 2013 07:57 GMT
#22
I WANT TO BE A VETERAN! D:
BW -> League -> CSGO
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
February 06 2013 16:31 GMT
#23
Can you be a veteran even if you haven't seen wartime?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
February 06 2013 16:55 GMT
#24
On February 07 2013 01:31 WaveofShadow wrote:
Can you be a veteran even if you haven't seen wartime?

How much drama constitutes a war .
User was warned for too many mimes.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 06 2013 20:21 GMT
#25
On February 07 2013 01:55 docvoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 01:31 WaveofShadow wrote:
Can you be a veteran even if you haven't seen wartime?

How much drama constitutes a war .

Multiple bannings, the death of logic, and the topic added to the list of things that shall never be spoken of again.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
February 06 2013 20:42 GMT
#26
On February 07 2013 05:21 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 01:55 docvoc wrote:
On February 07 2013 01:31 WaveofShadow wrote:
Can you be a veteran even if you haven't seen wartime?

How much drama constitutes a war .

Multiple bannings, the death of logic, and the topic added to the list of things that shall never be spoken of again.

Then I'm pretty sure I've survived the equivalent of every war since the war of 1812.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
February 06 2013 21:08 GMT
#27
Understood.

I think I've been around long enough to call myself a veteran, although not as much as those who have been here since the start (I only started playing in early 211)
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
February 06 2013 21:19 GMT
#28
To be fair though, while I might be considered a 'TL LoL veteran' by some simply due to the sheer length of time I've been around here, I'm not sure if I'd really consider myself as such.

I don't undergo massive bouts of theorycrafting, or bring solid arguments or even any general game skill to brag of to the subforum so I certainly don't know if I'd expect anyone new to respect me right off the bat, especially if they have anything at all to teach me.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 06 2013 21:22 GMT
#29
On February 07 2013 06:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
To be fair though, while I might be considered a 'TL LoL veteran' by some simply due to the sheer length of time I've been around here, I'm not sure if I'd really consider myself as such.

I don't undergo massive bouts of theorycrafting, or bring solid arguments or even any general game skill to brag of to the subforum so I certainly don't know if I'd expect anyone new to respect me right off the bat, especially if they have anything at all to teach me.

Little golem so humble.
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GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
February 06 2013 21:50 GMT
#30
When TL LoL is big and famous, people will see me here on the second page as they read through the comments

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Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
February 08 2013 08:57 GMT
#31
I'll get to work engraving these on some metal plates so future cultures can use our wisdom to guide them.

You're all a bunch of post whores, ALL OF YOU!
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
BlueSpace
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2182 Posts
February 08 2013 09:53 GMT
#32
With the way things are going, elo hell will become replaced with: "Why am I stuck in bronze?!". Maybe that should be tabooed preemptively.
Probe1: "Because people are opinionated and love to share their thoughts. Then they read someone else agree with them and get their opinion confused with fact."
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
February 08 2013 10:26 GMT
#33
On February 02 2013 09:35 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2013 09:32 remedium wrote:
You forgot the one about how arguing with TheYango about math is a poor use of time and resources.


As a regular, it's fun watching no-namers come out of the woodwork and try to convince Yango that he's wrong and they're right. XD


Is it bad I still remember arguing an early RoA on Ryze wasn't worth it with him and it was better to pick it up later (back when Ryze benefited from AP a lot less)? Because I do. And I was kind of bitter about it for a while.

Then they changed Ryze so much the whole argument is completely irrelevant now.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 09 2013 05:44 GMT
#34
I like Commandment 9, quite a bit. quite a bit indeed.
liftlift > tsm
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
February 09 2013 08:39 GMT
#35
Didn't know that the sub forum had its own 10 commandments! Guess it hasn't been up too long but its good to see greater structure and organization here! Neo doing WORK.
Never Knows Best.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
February 09 2013 08:47 GMT
#36
On February 06 2013 16:57 wussleeQ wrote:
I WANT TO BE A VETERAN! D:

You guys so coot~

Also understood!
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
February 11 2013 18:11 GMT
#37
I hope these things weren't written in stone by the hand of God because if so he's prone to typos. #2 especially (proficient -> proficiency, specialize -> specialized).
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
February 11 2013 18:28 GMT
#38
On February 12 2013 03:11 Seuss wrote:
I hope these things weren't written in stone by the hand of God because if so he's prone to typos. #2 especially (proficient -> proficiency, specialize -> specialized).


God decreed them, but the translator was too busy leading his people to freedom to double check his spelling =p
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
February 11 2013 21:25 GMT
#39
On February 12 2013 03:11 Seuss wrote:
I hope these things weren't written in stone by the hand of God because if so he's prone to typos. #2 especially (proficient -> proficiency, specialize -> specialized).


I'm not MadLife~
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 12 2013 22:35 GMT
#40
On February 12 2013 03:11 Seuss wrote:
I hope these things weren't written in stone by the hand of God because if so he's prone to typos. #2 especially (proficient -> proficiency, specialize -> specialized).

If god writes something online, then doesnt that mean its the proper spelling, and perhaps YOU, monty, are incorrect?
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
February 12 2013 22:41 GMT
#41
Good to see Commandments for TL LoL as well - and nice in general to see the sub-forum grow!
AdministratorBreak the chains
Garraf
Profile Joined February 2012
Austria34 Posts
February 15 2013 07:30 GMT
#42
On February 02 2013 08:17 NeoIllusions wrote:
In the LoL Strategy subforum, we have a Champion Overview sticky that provides links to every individual champion thread.


Call me crazy, but I didn't find such a sticky in the Strategy subforum...
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
February 15 2013 07:43 GMT
#43
On February 15 2013 16:30 Garraf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2013 08:17 NeoIllusions wrote:
In the LoL Strategy subforum, we have a Champion Overview sticky that provides links to every individual champion thread.


Call me crazy, but I didn't find such a sticky in the Strategy subforum...


It's not ready just yet. Don't worry, you're not crazy.
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checo
Profile Joined November 2008
Mexico1364 Posts
February 26 2013 19:04 GMT
#44
=D loving this ones we kinda need them, thanks for the hard work
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GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-26 19:36:16
February 26 2013 19:35 GMT
#45
On February 12 2013 03:11 Seuss wrote:
I hope these things weren't written in stone by the hand of God because if so he's prone to typos. #2 especially (proficient -> proficiency, specialize -> specialized).

Blitzcrank didn't write it, no.

EDIT: Crap Neo already made that joke X.X
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
February 27 2013 00:08 GMT
#46
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
akaliae
Profile Joined March 2013
United States2 Posts
March 06 2013 06:24 GMT
#47
+1

User was warned for this post
Janet Mary
Profile Joined June 2013
United States4 Posts
June 03 2013 14:10 GMT
#48
--- Nuked ---
1048jack11
Profile Joined June 2013
4 Posts
June 21 2013 07:37 GMT
#49
--- Nuked ---
Kwahamot
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States22 Posts
January 10 2015 23:03 GMT
#50
idk what gp10 item to get for elo hell "tanks" (what is tank???)

toriya
TitusVI
Profile Joined April 2013
Germany8319 Posts
January 10 2015 23:08 GMT
#51
No teemo joke in the ten commandemends?
Science>Mechanics
Project Yasuo
Profile Joined January 2015
United States153 Posts
January 11 2015 01:27 GMT
#52
On January 11 2015 08:03 Kwahamot wrote:
idk what gp10 item to get for elo hell "tanks" (what is tank???)


Dude tanks are like terrible champions. I hear they don't even do damage.
Royal Never Gives Up
Para29
Profile Joined February 2013
Canada40 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-11 23:26:43
January 11 2015 23:26 GMT
#53
Logged in to say these commandments are pretty simple and reasonable but I think 6 should be higher as critical thinking and keeping a healthy debate stay healthy is important.
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
January 12 2015 00:51 GMT
#54
On February 02 2013 09:03 MattBarry wrote:
I'm surprised Dota vs LoL and gp10 wasn't included in the taboo. Especially gp10.


Dota has its own subforum so why bother discuss the differences in games? Sure there are people who play both or is trying out the other games, but that discussion has been beaten to death so many times that it's a moot point
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
January 12 2015 17:32 GMT
#55
On January 12 2015 09:51 amazingxkcd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2013 09:03 MattBarry wrote:
I'm surprised Dota vs LoL and gp10 wasn't included in the taboo. Especially gp10.


Dota has its own subforum so why bother discuss the differences in games? Sure there are people who play both or is trying out the other games, but that discussion has been beaten to death so many times that it's a moot point

Those things were much bigger problems 2 years ago. God I remember there being pages and pages and pages of discussion about gp10 items
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