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misirlou
Profile Joined June 2010
Portugal3238 Posts
February 02 2013 02:25 GMT
#761
On February 02 2013 11:13 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2013 11:10 NEOtheONE wrote:
On February 02 2013 11:01 jtbem wrote:
went 1-1 0pts hmmm


Went loss win Loss = 3 pts. Clearly working as intended. >_>

You beat a team with higher collective Elo than you and then you lost two games to teams that had higher collective Elo, it's weighted.


the system clearly still needs some tweaks. I duo with my brother often, we just started doing the league games now (we are same division). win loss win. he ends up with 24 and me 37.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-02 02:29:46
February 02 2013 02:26 GMT
#762
On February 02 2013 11:12 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2013 10:56 S[o]ul wrote:
So I'm playing in a tournament soon, and i'm team captain....
but i have no idea how to draft a good team comp

Can anyone tell me some tips on how to draft a good comp? Thanks.

Know which champs each of you are comfortablt with, and which synergy they have. FInd stuff that work for you (don't go fancy 1v2 lanes just because it's popular if your team can't handle them). Also scout the opposing team if you can, abuse the openings (enemy mid has 3 mains, come up with a comp where a direct lane counter to one of them work well, ban the other 2, and pick your mid after his, for example; or if you share a main champion with them and you have first pick, you can deny him without "wasting" a ban on him if you can use it in the comp you planned for that game, essentially having 4 bans against their team).

A common thing to do when people ban "OPs", FotM or just popular champs and you're 2nd pick is to leave 3 open on purpose with your bans, using the fact that you ban last, so they can have one, but then you'll have 2.



There are a few basic comps, e.g:

-Kiting comp.
Champs like jayce, nidalee, kayle, nunu.
You pick strong laning phase champs and then group fairly early and start poking and pushing mid and make it hard to engage on you and just keep running back and cc when they commit

-Bruiser/assassin comp
Champs like akali, kat, khazix, xinzhao, jax, ryze, riven
You get champs with high mobility/sustained damage just jump in and rape them. You want a safe ad like ezrael who can stay safe or go in from the side and pick 4 champs with at least 1 strong engage like xin or leona support or something

-AoE comps
vlad, zyra, kennen, galio, mf, sona
You stack AoE and just aoe the fuck out of ppl, not quite so good because of mass warmogs but mf and sona still work

-2 line comps AKA protect the carry comps
You have a strong ap and ad as damage and pick really tanky guys like shen and mundo and shit, when they engage you use the tanks to split their team and try to clean up 1 by 1 (note this comp lacks poke and engage which is why shen is popular for the split push)

You can combine elements of these things together. You generally want one of three basic things

-stronger poke than the enemy team
-some kind of hard engage
-some kind of very good split pushing

You need to force fights somehow. If you have worse poke, but no engage, you can't really do anything. If they have a split push, you need either poke or engage. If you have no poke, no engage, you need a split pusher with TP who they can't match with their own.

You want to have a general comp in mind knowing what your players are good at. Then you want to make sure you don't open yourself up to counterpicks. Only a few top laners can't get counterpicks so you want to pick top late, and generally supports and junglers are a safe early pick, ad can be picked with support but it's slightly risky if it's not a solid lane. Mid lane it depends on the champs but another one you want to pick late.

I personally like stacking bruisers and going man mode. If I were drafting a comp my idea would be

-Malphite mid possibly with TP, decide when the comps are.

Malphite is great against both assassins and APs. You just get 2 dorans ring sorc boots and then sunfire/abyssal/tank items like warmogs or more spell pen in haunting guise. He also makes ppl think hes probably going top allowing you to troll people.

Amumu or xin zhao jungle. These fuckers are so strong and are also strong engages

Riven or Xin or Jax or Akali top. You want a strong snowbally top who can dive in and rape face off a strong engage.

Sona or lulu support. You already have strong engage so you pick really strong laners who can back up a bruiser comp well with their ults. Lulu also can slow from a target in the front and AOE knockup off a malphite ult. Sona cna flash ult on top of a malphite ult

Ez or MF ad carry. Both strong laners and can fire an ult across long range to follow an engage.

Now you have a bunch of really fucking strong lanes potential split push and great engage so you don't worry about poke at all.

If you want a poke comp you'd get like kayle/nidalee/lee sin/nunu/caitlyn or something.

edit: I got a random quote from some lp musings i had a while back after playing malph mid vs khazix i think
+ Show Spoiler +

Teutonica (10:29): man
picking malphite mid
against assassins mid meta thing
it feels like
a bruce lee movie
where all the guys in the neightbourhood
bullying people and shit
get beat up by bruce lee
so they move somewhere lese
and when they arrive
bruce lees there waiting for them
and they're like
FUCK
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
February 02 2013 02:27 GMT
#763
On February 02 2013 11:25 misirlou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2013 11:13 onlywonderboy wrote:
On February 02 2013 11:10 NEOtheONE wrote:
On February 02 2013 11:01 jtbem wrote:
went 1-1 0pts hmmm


Went loss win Loss = 3 pts. Clearly working as intended. >_>

You beat a team with higher collective Elo than you and then you lost two games to teams that had higher collective Elo, it's weighted.


the system clearly still needs some tweaks. I duo with my brother often, we just started doing the league games now (we are same division). win loss win. he ends up with 24 and me 37.

Probably weights personal Elo as well as the team Elo, unless you guys are the exact same Elo it makes sense.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-02 02:30:30
February 02 2013 02:29 GMT
#764
aphro's support still so annoying to watch, its like loco 2.0...

cop+elementz doing really well (but cop did get first blood).

Shitshotgg, getting walked all over by voyboy.
liftlift > tsm
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
February 02 2013 02:30 GMT
#765
Curse really dominating CLG in this NESL pro series final.
Platinum Support GOD
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
February 02 2013 02:31 GMT
#766
On February 02 2013 11:29 wei2coolman wrote:
aphro's support still so annoying to watch, its like loco 2.0...

cop+elementz doing really well (but cop did get first blood).

Shitshotgg, getting walked all over by voyboy.


Aphros support seems bad. He just does the most randomly bad things i've seen. Doesn't seem to respect anyone and gets pooped on. It's like he's playing as if he's fed but he's just a low farm support.
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
February 02 2013 02:32 GMT
#767
On February 02 2013 08:57 Nos- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2013 08:52 Badboyrune wrote:
On February 02 2013 08:42 HazMat wrote:
On February 02 2013 08:35 Badboyrune wrote:
On February 02 2013 08:33 HazMat wrote:
On February 02 2013 08:30 Slayer91 wrote:
I love how everyones getting excited over the forum equivalent of an extra wall between cubicle areas. LOL
It just makes things cleaner is all.

NO ONE LIKES A CYNIC


And yet TotalBiscuit has almost 1 million subscribers on youtube.

his voice is le cool though.


True, but he's also a godless communist who hates lol surely having a nice voice alone cant make up for all that. the cynisism is clearly very important

TB is a shitty cynic if anything


Nah I'm still extremely cynical about the average intelligence of people on internet forums.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
February 02 2013 02:32 GMT
#768
On February 02 2013 11:29 wei2coolman wrote:
aphro's support still so annoying to watch, its like loco 2.0...

cop+elementz doing really well (but cop did get first blood).

Shitshotgg, getting walked all over by voyboy.

That early counter gank on Top really hurt him. Saint got the kills but Voy picked up the assist money. Pretty good game sense on that one.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-02 02:35:06
February 02 2013 02:33 GMT
#769
On February 02 2013 11:31 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2013 11:29 wei2coolman wrote:
aphro's support still so annoying to watch, its like loco 2.0...

cop+elementz doing really well (but cop did get first blood).

Shitshotgg, getting walked all over by voyboy.


Aphros support seems bad. He just does the most randomly bad things i've seen. Doesn't seem to respect anyone and gets pooped on. It's like he's playing as if he's fed but he's just a low farm support.

He also plays very telegraphed, you can see that chauster gank from a mile away when they saw aphro walk up trying to snowball. lol, right as I type this, aphro telegraphs chauster + hai gank again, and just dies.

elementz is pretty good now, really doing work as sona.

St.V's J4 pretty skurry.

botrk on renekton... O.o at this point he's just trolling hotshot.
liftlift > tsm
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
February 02 2013 02:34 GMT
#770
On February 02 2013 11:33 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2013 11:31 Numy wrote:
On February 02 2013 11:29 wei2coolman wrote:
aphro's support still so annoying to watch, its like loco 2.0...

cop+elementz doing really well (but cop did get first blood).

Shitshotgg, getting walked all over by voyboy.


Aphros support seems bad. He just does the most randomly bad things i've seen. Doesn't seem to respect anyone and gets pooped on. It's like he's playing as if he's fed but he's just a low farm support.

He also plays very telegraphed, you can see that chauster gank from a mile away when they saw aphro walk up trying to snowball.

elementz is pretty good now, really doing work as sona.

St.V's J4 pretty skurry.

Haven't ever seen Saint play J4 but I gotta say I'm impressed so far.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
February 02 2013 02:34 GMT
#771
So CRS bot lane just 2v4ed CLG ROFL. This is sad.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-02 02:38:23
February 02 2013 02:34 GMT
#772
LOL

totalbiscuit crouching waiting to strike in the LoL forums until some unsuspecting fool to starts flaming

"True, but he's also a godless communist who hates lol surely having a nice voice alone cant make up for all that. the cynisism is clearly very important"

GODLESS communist who hates lol
holy shit that's intense
I mean I don't mean to be disrespectful but if you're trying to insult someone and act superior to them, godless and communist have the be the worst two insults you could have picked unless the TL audience is Pre-Coldwar Christian white americans
totalbiscuit actually got me into LoL with his video "WTF is League of Legends"
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
February 02 2013 02:37 GMT
#773
Cop 6-0, dis kid thinks he's Score.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 02 2013 02:37 GMT
#774
What's the stream for FXO btw? The one in the op for CLG Premier Series showed other teams so I guess it isn't that.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-02 02:38:52
February 02 2013 02:37 GMT
#775
God, if I was Doublelift I'd be so pissed. To go from godlike Chauster support, to locodoco, to random crappy subs, to aphromoo.

Also to add, Curse playing a very Korean comp.
liftlift > tsm
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
February 02 2013 02:38 GMT
#776
On February 02 2013 11:37 Alaric wrote:
What's the stream for FXO btw? The one in the op for CLG Premier Series showed other teams so I guess it isn't that.

http://www.twitch.tv/salce/popout
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
February 02 2013 02:38 GMT
#777
At the very least, it's pretty impressive Dlift is keeping up in cs with the 6/0 police officer
Platinum Support GOD
Louuster
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2869 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-02 02:39:25
February 02 2013 02:38 GMT
#778
Salce and West are streaming it
http://www.twitch.tv/Westrice
http://www.twitch.tv/salce

Nice smite Navi jkjk
Kim Taek Yong fighting~
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
February 02 2013 02:39 GMT
#779
^Yeah, that speaks to Doublelift's amazing mechanics.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11507 Posts
February 02 2013 02:39 GMT
#780
On February 02 2013 11:32 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2013 08:57 Nos- wrote:
On February 02 2013 08:52 Badboyrune wrote:
On February 02 2013 08:42 HazMat wrote:
On February 02 2013 08:35 Badboyrune wrote:
On February 02 2013 08:33 HazMat wrote:
On February 02 2013 08:30 Slayer91 wrote:
I love how everyones getting excited over the forum equivalent of an extra wall between cubicle areas. LOL
It just makes things cleaner is all.

NO ONE LIKES A CYNIC


And yet TotalBiscuit has almost 1 million subscribers on youtube.

his voice is le cool though.


True, but he's also a godless communist who hates lol surely having a nice voice alone cant make up for all that. the cynisism is clearly very important

TB is a shitty cynic if anything


Nah I'm still extremely cynical about the average intelligence of people on internet forums.


Well, you are kind of positive towards a lot of things lately, which would make you bad at cynicism
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