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MoonBear's 2012 Musings - Page 2

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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 03 2013 20:48 GMT
#21
On January 04 2013 05:48 Dandel Ion wrote:
What I really want is a Leaguepedia link on the header, where the Liquipedias are.

Because I'm a lazy bum.
Yup.


Bookmarking es hard I hear. :p
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 03 2013 20:50 GMT
#22
Interesting read moonbear! Keep that content rolling!
liftlift > tsm
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
January 03 2013 20:51 GMT
#23
That Soraka!!!!
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
SgtSquiglz
Profile Joined December 2010
United States668 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-03 20:53:50
January 03 2013 20:52 GMT
#24
Dont post much, but I appreciate all you (and the rest of the LoL staff) have done for TL LoL. Looking forward to what TL brings in 2013!

Edit: That "call me maybe" joke made me laugh.
Take anything I say with a grain of salt.....I suck at this game. Also, Go Blue!
DoXa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Switzerland1448 Posts
January 03 2013 20:53 GMT
#25
I didn't visit this subforum alot in the last couple of months, but articels like these are making me to come back and have a look at LoL again.

Thanks for the effort and keep the good work up!
monx
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada1400 Posts
January 03 2013 21:04 GMT
#26
followed and retweeted cause those articles are gems and the best i read troughout the internets

gg ww
@ggmonx
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
January 03 2013 21:05 GMT
#27
On January 04 2013 05:48 NeoIllusions wrote:
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On January 04 2013 05:48 Dandel Ion wrote:
What I really want is a Leaguepedia link on the header, where the Liquipedias are.

Because I'm a lazy bum.
Yup.


Bookmarking es hard I hear. :p

es really hard

I always forget.

Now, bow to my whim and make the world like I want it to be.

I'll even
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say please
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Weaklink123
Profile Joined April 2011
United States159 Posts
January 03 2013 21:08 GMT
#28
As a lurker on TL who is just getting into LoL, because of OGN Winter 2012-2013, I am impressed with the quality of this article. I know Moonbear is a staff memeber of TL, but I always thought the best articles would be centered around SC and Dota. Simply because of the focus they get here on TL.

I really loved how your brought up the problems the LoL community has that may cause stagnation. You also do a great job giving advice on how to adjust and fix these problems. The only question I am left with is what seems to be the issue with the casters?

Coming from SC2 it seemed that for a professional tournament to be run at this point you always need an analytical caster and a play-by-play type. Does this not happen or are the analytical casters just that bad at their job. For reference I have only listened to Doa and MonteCristo during this season of OGN LoL.
mYinsanityCoach 우정호 (KT Violet) - 1988 - 2012.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
January 03 2013 21:09 GMT
#29
Yo Moonbear. Good read. Only read like 2 paragraphs though.

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tldr prz? LOL
God Bless
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 03 2013 21:10 GMT
#30
Fantastic read as always, MB.
Your point about casters using VODs and your articles as a point of research/reference really hit home.
I know I'm just the PbP guy but I'm really going to give this a bunch of thought for future casting.
(If I ever get to do any again.... >.< )
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JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-03 21:23:50
January 03 2013 21:13 GMT
#31
On January 04 2013 06:08 Weaklink123 wrote:
As a lurker on TL who is just getting into LoL, because of OGN Winter 2012-2013, I am impressed with the quality of this article. I know Moonbear is a staff memeber of TL, but I always thought the best articles would be centered around SC and Dota. Simply because of the focus they get here on TL.

I really loved how your brought up the problems the LoL community has that may cause stagnation. You also do a great job giving advice on how to adjust and fix these problems. The only question I am left with is what seems to be the issue with the casters?

Coming from SC2 it seemed that for a professional tournament to be run at this point you always need an analytical caster and a play-by-play type. Does this not happen or are the analytical casters just that bad at their job. For reference I have only listened to Doa and MonteCristo during this season of OGN LoL.


The best analytical casters from SC2 tend to be former/current players (BW/SC2). Unfortunately LoL is not old enough where there is a stable set of retired players who can jump in and give the analysis that people like. The casters we have now are getting better but you can tell the difference in the community's reaction when players hop in and give their insight.
ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
Isken
Profile Joined November 2010
Korea (South)1131 Posts
January 03 2013 21:20 GMT
#32
cat video made it all worth it
Louuster
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2869 Posts
January 03 2013 21:22 GMT
#33
On January 04 2013 06:13 JBright wrote:
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On January 04 2013 06:08 Weaklink123 wrote:
As a lurker on TL who is just getting into LoL, because of OGN Winter 2012-2013, I am impressed with the quality of this article. I know Moonbear is a staff memeber of TL, but I always thought the best articles would be centered around SC and Dota. Simply because of the focus they get here on TL.

I really loved how your brought up the problems the LoL community has that may cause stagnation. You also do a great job giving advice on how to adjust and fix these problems. The only question I am left with is what seems to be the issue with the casters?

Coming from SC2 it seemed that for a professional tournament to be run at this point you always need an analytical caster and a play-by-play type. Does this not happen or are the analytical casters just that bad at their job. For reference I have only listened to Doa and MonteCristo during this season of OGN LoL.


The best analytical casters from SC2 tend to be former/current players (BW/SC2). Unfortunately LoL is not old enough where there is a stable set of retired players who can jump in and give the analysis that people like. The casters we have now are getting better but you can tell the difference in the community's reaction when a player hops in and give their insight.


Which is why Jatt is so good at this
Kim Taek Yong fighting~
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 03 2013 21:34 GMT
#34
Thanks for the insight, especially on the writing/making the research stuff.
Also, LPEU? I thought you were playing on NA?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
January 03 2013 22:32 GMT
#35
Looking forward to 2013's coverage. Keep up the good work.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
KevinIX
Profile Joined October 2009
United States2472 Posts
January 03 2013 22:37 GMT
#36
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[image loading]


My heart just melted. :3
Liquid FIGHTING!!!
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
January 03 2013 22:43 GMT
#37
Wow. Awesome. I hope this gets all the praise it rightly deserves. Fucking fantastic and I can't wait to see what's coming for you, for the subforum, for TL, for LoL, and for eSports in 2013.

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ALSO, HOLY SHIT MY NAME'S IN THIS. I AM NOT WORTHY. + Show Spoiler +
Do you require more coffee Master Bear?
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MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
January 03 2013 22:53 GMT
#38
On January 04 2013 06:34 Alaric wrote:
Thanks for the insight, especially on the writing/making the research stuff.
Also, LPEU? I thought you were playing on NA?

I started on LPEU, now trying to level my NA acc haha.

On January 04 2013 07:37 KevinIX wrote:
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[image loading]


My heart just melted. :3

This took a surprisingly long time to come up with because a lot my previous iterations weren't mathematically accurate :<
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
January 03 2013 23:13 GMT
#39
Double AP Skarner is too stronk.
I am sorry I just had to :D
Anyway, I appreciate the writeups and also the analysises (?) of pro games, I know how much time it takes. If you could ever use help analysing a game, be it for a write-up or just for yourself, feel free to PM me, I should usually have enough time to help you out. <3
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
GreenManalishi
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada834 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-03 23:37:01
January 03 2013 23:36 GMT
#40
On January 04 2013 07:37 KevinIX wrote:
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[image loading]


My heart just melted. :3

It took me a bit to remember my symbolic logic.

I have really enjoyed the content provided by TL so far, it should be interesting to see what happens over the next year. Personally, I think a big reason that LoL theory crafting is so weak compared to BW and SC2 is the lack of replays. I still have APM_RepInfo and bwChart on my desktop, and the data sets that could be extracted from those programs allowed for the sort of prescriptive empirical analysis that League is so sorely lacking.
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