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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-20 17:26:23
December 20 2012 17:25 GMT
#1921
Not as much as Yorick with AD carry zombie.Zombie can't cast till the original die, you know.

Ah, you meant revived Pantheon. Still truer of AD carries. Or Cassiopea.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
December 20 2012 17:27 GMT
#1922
On December 21 2012 02:24 zer0das wrote:
Yorick with Pantheon's zombie is really stupid. Pantheon dies? Who cares, he kills everyone anyways...


lol, not sure how this is exclusive to just Omen of Death'd Panth. :O
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 20 2012 17:29 GMT
#1923
7800IP champions. Yay!


They might as well make it 12600 IP
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
December 20 2012 17:30 GMT
#1924
Do they state somewhere about recent purchase refunds? I didn't see anything. Just bought Ez after holding out for a price reduction for a month lolol
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
December 20 2012 17:31 GMT
#1925
On December 21 2012 02:13 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Heyyyyyyyy... how cool is this?

http://www.surrenderat20.net/2012/12/new-champion-pricing-structure.html#more

I'm excited to be more broke.



Awesome just bought Nocturne with new price! :D
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
December 20 2012 17:33 GMT
#1926
On December 21 2012 02:30 mordek wrote:
Do they state somewhere about recent purchase refunds? I didn't see anything. Just bought Ez after holding out for a price reduction for a month lolol


Reread it. It's right in there.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
December 20 2012 17:34 GMT
#1927
On December 21 2012 02:31 Zhiroo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2012 02:13 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Heyyyyyyyy... how cool is this?

http://www.surrenderat20.net/2012/12/new-champion-pricing-structure.html#more

I'm excited to be more broke.



Awesome just bought Nocturne with new price! :D

I approve of your purchase.
hi5
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 20 2012 17:35 GMT
#1928
I own almost all the old 6300, lol.

Ezreal, Vladimir, Noctourn.... And I am not too interested in Lee Sin or Brand or Vayne. Oh well.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-20 17:36:59
December 20 2012 17:36 GMT
#1929
On December 21 2012 02:33 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2012 02:30 mordek wrote:
Do they state somewhere about recent purchase refunds? I didn't see anything. Just bought Ez after holding out for a price reduction for a month lolol


Reread it. It's right in there.

Dang it! D:

I swear I read every other sentence...

My shame is overcome by my joy in finding this is the case
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
December 20 2012 17:41 GMT
#1930
On December 21 2012 02:15 NeoIllusions wrote:
Oh the splitting of hairs. :< I obviously wasn't that serious about just throwing money for extra lines.

Most VA Riot has hired do multiple characters. Assuming a VA comes in for new lines for a new characters, he/she can also add new lines to old characters.

I just wanted to emphasize my support for the little things like character interactions via ingame voice overs. npnp.


Sorry, I just tend to know much about various topics. You just happened to stumble onto one of my particular interests. ^^;

Love the idea of a solid price reduction schedule, that really smooth's things about and it's far better over the current implementation of seemingly random price reductions.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
December 20 2012 17:41 GMT
#1931
On December 21 2012 02:29 Sufficiency wrote:
7800IP champions. Yay!


They might as well make it 12600 IP



One... MILLION.. Influence Points! *Insert Dr. Evil laugh*

What kind of strategy is this? Make people buy RP, cus 7800 is harder to grind? Thank god, i got almost all champions, but for newer players, this is an indirect force to buy RP.
hi
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
December 20 2012 17:42 GMT
#1932
On December 21 2012 02:29 Sufficiency wrote:
7800IP champions. Yay!


They might as well make it 12600 IP


You had me going there for a second before I read the previous page that said it was temporary and part of a whole new price reduction model.

On another note, I'm pretty sure Riot's not going to stop releasing champions until there's at least 150 so that they can rap about it.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
December 20 2012 17:44 GMT
#1933
A slight premium for those users who want to buy a new champion upon release. Might reduce first week lobby fighting for the new champ. /shrug

I'll just wait until 2nd week to buy a champ I want. Cause you know, I'm super stingy with my 90K IP.. zz
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21858 Posts
December 20 2012 17:45 GMT
#1934
There is a lot of people who buy every new champion on release. By making them more expansive for the first week they want to try and get these people to spend real money instead. Since the price drops a week later the average user isnt effected. Seems simple enough to me.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
December 20 2012 17:46 GMT
#1935
On December 21 2012 01:33 gtrsrs wrote:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0AhSzLWU_Cl-NdDFIRFFNeklfY1UyRHQ3b2dLYjhSdHc&authkey=CLm220c&toomany=true#gid=13


that table seems messed up
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
December 20 2012 17:47 GMT
#1936
On December 21 2012 02:44 NeoIllusions wrote:
A slight premium for those users who want to buy a new champion upon release. Might reduce first week lobby fighting for the new champ. /shrug

Definitely seems to be the intention
Yeah - making first week champion ownership a little more exclusive and less frustrating is one of the reasons for these changes.

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1567m6/champion_reduction_incoming/
People get too easily offended by people getting too easily offended by the word rape.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-20 17:49:28
December 20 2012 17:48 GMT
#1937
On December 21 2012 02:41 Sponkz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2012 02:29 Sufficiency wrote:
7800IP champions. Yay!


They might as well make it 12600 IP



One... MILLION.. Influence Points! *Insert Dr. Evil laugh*

What kind of strategy is this? Make people buy RP, cus 7800 is harder to grind? Thank god, i got almost all champions, but for newer players, this is an indirect force to buy RP.


It's not about newer players, it's about impatient players.

After one week the price will drop to the familiar 6300 IP, so players looking to patiently collect them all through grinding can simply wait. The price bump is a slight, but significant, nudge to the "GOTTA HAVE IT" crowd, those players who are so excited about a champion they simply can't wait, as well as those who simply enjoy flaunting new champions and skins.

Is it a money grab? Certainly, but it's a very reasonable one and it's coupled with a comprehensive and sensible price reduction plan that players can plan around and ultimately represents the biggest steps toward helping new players we've ever seen. It's all good in my book.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
December 20 2012 17:52 GMT
#1938
I think it's a great system and I've been waiting for something for it. I personally find 6300 to be far too much grind for just one champion, no matter how cool, so I tend to buy cheaper champions with IP and use RP sales to buy 6300 champions. 4800 though, I find very reasonable for a champion I really want to play. As for champions being extra expensive the first week, fine by me. I never buy champions that new anyway, and if I feel I somehow MUST have a champion the first week, I will probably want it so badly that 7800 is just fine.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 20 2012 17:58 GMT
#1939
On December 21 2012 02:46 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2012 01:33 gtrsrs wrote:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0AhSzLWU_Cl-NdDFIRFFNeklfY1UyRHQ3b2dLYjhSdHc&authkey=CLm220c&toomany=true#gid=13


that table seems messed up

The table blindly assigns gold values to quite a few of the non-basic stats by treating certain combined items as the "base item" for a particular stat--which I don't agree with at all.
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 20 2012 17:58 GMT
#1940
1500 IP is a lot though X_X

Oh man. Waiting for a week for me, I guess.
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